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Hello Dakka Dakka, it’s great to be back. My real name is Jess and I am currently speaking via proxy from prison.



A few weeks ago, I asked my mom to see if my Dakka Dakka account still functioned, since it’s been roughly four years since I became incarcerated (and obviously had no internet access). When my mom (AKA my proxy) informed me that my account did still in fact function, I experienced a profound wave of emotions. For the first time in a while I felt connected to my old life, the world, and the outside wargaming community. It is because of these emotions that I felt compelled to say hi to the outside gaming community.

Believe it or not, there is in fact a big table-top community behind bars. Throughout prisons, there are swaths of gaming cliques interspersed through various facilities that play all kinds of games – from Dungeons and Dragons, to Starfinder, to Magik the Gathering.



When I arrived at prison, however, I was disheartened to learn that my favorite game, Warhammer 40,000, could not be played due to table sizes and the fact the Games Workshop is not an “approved” model vendor. In other words, while we could get all the books and codexes we wanted, we could not get the models. Even if we did, the only way to play would be on 3x3 tables.

Thus, for the last few years we could only really experience the grim darkness of the 41st Millenia through RPGs, such as Fantasy Flight’s Black Crusade.



Until recently that is.





While writing the script for a Wrath and Glory campaign, I envisioned a big battle for the prologue between the Sons of Horus and the Raven Guard. I began to “macro-ize” the RPGs unit stats in effort to streamline hundreds of units fighting against each other. After a few days of brainstorming I came up with a simple, but obvious, solution: Why not just play 40K at a smaller scale?





It took about eight of us bringing our heads together to develop a standardized to-scale system. We settled on quarter inch and soon most of the gamers became infatuated with building their own stuff.





Soon, the Wrath of Glory campaign was basically forgotten and, in its place, a community of wargamers sprang up.

Since June, we’ve had a 500 pt tournament with eight competitors (the tournament came down to Alpha Legion versus Adeptus Custodes in the championship with the Hydra claiming the title) and I have also started a narrative campaign featuring Cadians, Deathwatch, and Orks.







From all of us here behind bars, we say hello. If you’re interested in reading more about what it’s like inside prison, please visit my blog at https://heathensvox.com/blog/.

I look forward to participating in such an awesome community once again. In 8 months, I ought to be out and building my Drukhari! Thanks guys!


P.S.: A lot of my buddies in here don’t have the connection to reach out to get information about the models or the game mechanics. If possible, if you’re reading this could you please reply to this post if you have the dimensions of the following models or images:

Matt W. is wondering if someone could post pictures of different angles/views along with dimensions of the following: Canoptek Tomb Stalker; Canoptek Acanthrites; Canoptek Tomb Sentinel; Night Shroud; Sentry Pylon; Tesseract Ark; Gauss Pylon; Seraptek Heavy Construct; Doomsday Arc; Ghost Arc; Canoptek Spider; Doom Sythe; Catacomb Command Barge; Annihilation Bard; Trancendent C’tan.

Matt C. is playing Orks and he is hoping for dimensions and picture of the following: Grot Tanks; Grot Mega Tank; Lifta Droppa; Kill Tank.

Carlos C. is hoping for the size and dimensions and pictures of a Tau Manta Dropship.

Mario T. is hoping for size, dimensions and pictures of a Heldrake.

Chad S. is hoping for dimensions and pictures of a Drop Pod and a Stormfang Gunship.

I am playing Durkahri. I was hoping someone could post dimensions and pictures of Drukhari stuff, specifically: Tantalus; Reaper.

Thanks again!

In the category of "Things I was not expecting to read on Dakka Dakka Today" we have a new winner!

Good on you for the scratch-building and idea to convert to a 1/4 scale. Would you be playing on 1’ x 2’ “tables”?

I’m following. I have access to a handful of models, I’ll see if I can get some shots with a tape measure or something.

I hope your return to the outside goes smoothly, I’ll check back with some pictures when I can.

Welcome back! (Via proxy)

Amazing project under any circumstances, even more so in prison!

There is an article with dimensions in inches and CM here, it's not 100% complete but should help:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Scale_Model_Kits_for_40K

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You might also look at Vanguard, they make a lot of 40k-ish stuff at 6mm, which is close to 1/4 size and should work with your (impressive) terrain.

They have almost Tau, Near Necrons, and lots of Not Marines and Semi Guard.

https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/

"In the category of "Things I was not expecting to read on Dakka Dakka Today" we have a new winner!"
Great What do I win?

"Good on you for the scratch-building and idea to convert to a 1/4 scale."
Thank you! It took us a while to figure it out, but as they say, necessity often compels us to get creative. We can get hobby stuff through the mail if we order it but we're limited to certain items and certain vendors. The cardboard we used for the boards was scavenged from toilet paper containers that we had to get from corrections officers. We're really blessed to have a good artist, Cliff, who creates the boards that we designed. Here is his story if you'd like to read more about him: https://heathensvox.com/real-prisoners-are-real-people-meet-cliff/. We also have a cool set of staff members that are really interested and enthusiastic about what we're doing. There are even some "affiliated" guys that come around and take an acute interest in our wargames and codexes. The tables themselves are 3'x3' metal squares with bolted down stools. Because we wanted to have big battles with room to put our stuff on the table, we opted for the 1/4" size. Mario, who's playing 1000 Sons, dubbed what we do "pocket-hammer" LOL.

"I'll see if I can get you some shots..." - "There is an article with dimensions in inches and CM here, it's not 100% complete but should help."
Thank you greatbigtree and thank you Kid_Kyoto. You guys are godsends! We are grateful for any and all picture of measurements because it saves us hours of trying to figure them out by the pictures in the codexes. Also greatbigtree, thank you for following.

I just shared with our community everyone's comments. Everyone is very ecstatic to hear from the outside. Thanks guys. I'll look at the vanguard by the way. Maybe there's something we can get.

I will take photos of everything on your lists that I've got when I get home. I have Grot Tanks, Grot Mega Tanks, and Drop Pod official models. Also, a Reaper is a Raider but with a different gun, so if you already have dimensions of those you have the Reaper.

Can do hellturkey tomorrow.
Albeit mine got a rider, just ignore him, do you poor sods want it here or as pm?

Not Online!!! wrote:
Can do hellturkey tomorrow.
Albeit mine got a rider, just ignore him, do you poor sods want it here or as pm?

Could you put it here, I'd like to update the size chart so the more models the merrier.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Can do hellturkey tomorrow.
Albeit mine got a rider, just ignore him, do you poor sods want it here or as pm?

Could you put it here, I'd like to update the size chart so the more models the merrier.

Sure.
3 shots should suffice.

I've put images of a Raider, Grot Tank and Grot Megatank on my gallery but do not know how to link that. If you look for gallery images owned by the_scotsman it's all I've got in there.

the_scotsman wrote:
I've put images of a Raider, Grot Tank and Grot Megatank on my gallery but do not know how to link that. If you look for gallery images owned by the_scotsman it's all I've got in there.

THanks for doing that. To put an image in your post there's a box under it (lower right) "Forums". Just can paste the link there.

(last one is 4.5 Cmfrom maw to tip, sadly bad quality shot.)

Thanks again guys! My mom just downloaded all these and emailed them to me

Once the pictures get through the mailroom, we're going to start building them. Right now I can't actually see the photos, but when I do, we'll start scratching them of the list of the original post. when we get done building these, I'm goin got post them here. Cliff is also in the process of building an ice world battle board. He got the surface done but we need some ideas for modular terrain pieces. I suggested ice buttes.

@the_scotsman "reaper is raider"
Ah, that makes sense. I was wondering what the model looked like. We got Imperial Armor but it's got no pictures in it.

Matt M. said: "Thanks so much for the pictures! The greenskins have always been my favorite - the peerless masters of Warhammer comedic relief, and who better than Grots? Get your mega tank into perfect position...just in time for a fight to break out among the krew. Looking forward to fielding an entire grot based waaaaagh!"