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I have the newest disciples of tzeentch book and a bunch of Tzaangors (planning on more). Is it worth it to get the BoC book (only Chaos book I don’t have) for only Tzaangors?

As a BoC player with a large Tzaangor army. It hits very hard but cant take a hit and doesn't have enough models to do what BoC needs to do. IMO for every elite unit a BoC takes you need a throw away unit, BoC players are always throwing away units b.c we need to protect are hard hitting units.

BoC has, low saves, no way to get after saves, no ethereal units, no way to put models back into units other than Tzaangors (and still hard to do its a spell that we get no buffs for) and we have limited spells for protection with no way to buff casting.

BoC wins by out moving and using throw away units to get in the way.

If you wanted to do it, take Tzaangors in MSU or 20man at most, never go 30man anymore (no discount), a few Ungors, and a couple Disks or enlighten on foot (Foot is more models and more wounds with equal damage at the cost of movement and fly, so are you scared of armies shooting your Disks then take Enlighten as you'll have about 33% more wounds). 2 Bray and 2 Tzaangor shamans are almost a must at that point, the +3" is very important and the T shaman buffs are also very important. Still take the Battalion, as you'll need to have a 1 drop, especially against DoT, OBR, KO, and CoS. Your Tzaangors either go full damage or full shields, shields gives them a 6+++ but only for the shield models, so 2 handed weapons + shields, or 2 handed + paired. I personally like the Shields as you might get D3 back each turn and the damage additive from paired weapons is minor compare to what Enlighten can do.

I am starting to like the Foot enlighten more and more, but i take both, i do this b.c its just better point value and i don't need 2-3 units with 19" movement as we can summon from the sides as well.

I would do a list kinda like this:

Bray Shaman
Bray Shaman
Tzaangor Shaman
Tzaangor Shaman
Ungors x10
Ungors x10
Ungors x10
Ungors x10
Ungors x10
Tzaangors x10
Tzaangors x10
Enlighten foot x3
Enlighten foot x3
Enlighten Disks x6


Alternatively if you dont mind a 2 drop army. Take out 3 Ungors and put in a Gaunt Summoner, this will get you 2 more spells and 10 Horrors/20 Blues/20 Brims and 20pts under 2k for Triumph.

Uh...I’m not planning on any BoC models besides Tzaangors. I’m asking specifically about the battalions, spells, command abilities and endless spells, if running full Tzaangor.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Uh...I’m not planning on any BoC models besides Tzaangors. I’m asking specifically about the battalions, spells, command abilities and endless spells, if running full Tzaangor.

Only gavespawn (One of the traits/Greatfray) is worth taking and other than that, they will do better in DoT. you take B.c b.c you can give all units (basically) +3" movement and cheap fast units. But DoT rules are better over all for pure Tzaangor. The only thing really that is better is you can 1 Drop in BoC with a full tzaangor army, tho DoT battalion is 4-6 units and must take a Skyfire unit, the ability is better in DoT battalions, (BoC is non wizards gets 1 unbind at 9").

With Gavespawn tho, you can make a large unit +X attacks, 1 atk per 1 CP. in theory you can give a unit 5+ attacks, a unit of 9 Disks, or 30 Tzaangors could turn 1 or turn 2 charge multi units and deal an insane amount of damage. But its not very practical. You can also give out a -1 to saves to be effectively -2 on anything easily. Tho BoC don't have plus to casting and normally don't get their spells off without the Shamans Re-rolls once a game,a nd then vs other DoT/Nagash, CoS, SCE, they can either auto dis spell or just +2/3 to unbinds. That is what BoC brings +atks, +movement.

IMO, just go DoT, as their summoning is better and you can buff them better, yI do want to try Tzaangor Coven myself, attacking twice seems really good.

Ok, so only endless spells which I can get from GHB then? Cool. Thanks!

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Ok, so only endless spells which I can get from GHB then? Cool. Thanks!

BoC has 1 actually, i forgot you asked about it. Its the Bull, it lets you fight first, but it is Predatory. Tho IDK if its still worth it just for BoC compare to everything you get out of DoT.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Downloads//ENG_AoS_BeastsOfChaos_Wildfire_Taurus.pdf