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Basically this is everything I have, list is for 8th but I'm hoping it'll be good for 9th as well. Core of it is the devastators with re-roll captain, LT, and the Ancient, while there's a solid assault/counter assault punch in assault marines, dreads, and terminators. no primaris (As I don't own any) And only vehicles are my Stormtalon, Speeders, Furioso dread (serving as a Chaplain Dread for this) and two Ironclads. 3500 point list also serves sort of a menu for picking units to use in smaller games as well. Fluff wise army is going to have some a Native American motif as well and iirc Raven Guard are that, and they are stealthy so... kinda like that idea of getting the scouts and shooty terms onto objectives. I know people prefer the TH & SS Terminators but I only have enough for two, while I got plenty of claws, and claws are kinda a bear thing, so it goes with the theme. (The dreads too fit the theme, with double melee weapons and occupants awoken from slumber to tear things apart.)

Things I can change is basically put one more TH/SS somewhere, he'd just be a bit bulky since it's a pewter terminator arms. And the tactical squad fillers, I have a good amount plasma guns I could toss in. Bigger change I 'could' do is since they aren't built, I could drop the assault marines altogether and make them sternguard (it's essentially taking the jump pack off and adding a gun instead of ccws), but what loadout? I'd have no idea. (Anything outside of plasma guns would be trading bitz for essentially). And the Librarian is either staff or axe, but I could give him a combi-melta instead of the combi-flamer. Anyways the list:


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Raven Guard) [108 PL, -2CP, 2,186pts] ++

+ Configuration +

**Chapter Selection**: Hungry for Battle, Raven Guard Successor, Whirlwind of Rage

+ HQ +

Chaplain [5 PL, 95pts]: 6. Canticle of Hate, Jump Pack, Plasma pistol

Chapter Master in Terminator Armor [6 PL, -2CP, 109pts]: Master of Ambush, Power sword, Storm shield, Stratagem: Chapter Master, The Burning Blade, Warlord

Lieutenants [5 PL, 63pts]
. Lieutenant: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun

+ Troops +

Scout Squad [4 PL, 80pts]: 5x Camo cloak
. Scout Sergeant: Chainsword, Sniper rifle
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Sniper rifle

Scout Squad [4 PL, 80pts]: 5x Camo cloak
. Scout Sergeant: Chainsword, Sniper rifle
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Sniper rifle

Scout Squad [4 PL, 98pts]: 5x Camo cloak
. Scout Sergeant: Chainsword, Sniper rifle
. Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
. 3x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Frag & Krak grenades, 3x Sniper rifle

+ Elites +

Company Ancient [4 PL, 63pts]: Boltgun

Terminator Assault Squad [9 PL, 173pts]
. Terminator Sergeant
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. 4x Terminator w/x2LC: 4x Lightning Claw (Pair)

Terminator Squad [10 PL, 201pts]
. Terminator Sergeant: Power sword, Storm bolter
. 2x Terminator w/CF: 2x Chainfist, 2x Storm bolter
. Terminator w/Heavy Weapon: Power fist
. . Cyclone Missile Launcher and Storm Bolter: Cyclone missile launcher, Storm bolter
. Terminator w/PF: Power fist, Storm bolter

+ Fast Attack +

Assault Squad [9 PL, 177pts]: Jump Pack
. 7x Space Marine: 7x Bolt pistol, 7x Chainsword, 7x Frag & Krak grenades
. Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Combat shield, Thunder hammer
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon
. . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword: Plasma pistol
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon
. . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword: Plasma pistol

Assault Squad [9 PL, 177pts]: Jump Pack
. 7x Space Marine: 7x Bolt pistol, 7x Chainsword, 7x Frag & Krak grenades
. Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Combat shield, Thunder hammer
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon
. . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword: Plasma pistol
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon
. . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword: Plasma pistol

Land Speeders [12 PL, 231pts]
. Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Multi-melta
. Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Multi-melta
. Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Multi-melta

+ Heavy Support +

Devastator Squad [9 PL, 237pts]: Armorium Cherub
. 5x Space Marine: 5x Bolt pistol, 5x Boltgun, 5x Frag & Krak grenades
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon

Devastator Squad [9 PL, 201pts]: Armorium Cherub
. 5x Space Marine: 5x Bolt pistol, 5x Boltgun, 5x Frag & Krak grenades
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon

Devastator Squad [9 PL, 201pts]: Armorium Cherub
. 5x Space Marine: 5x Bolt pistol, 5x Boltgun, 5x Frag & Krak grenades
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Raven Guard) [68 PL, -1CP, 1,312pts] ++

+ Configuration +

**Chapter Selection**: Hungry for Battle, Raven Guard Successor, Whirlwind of Rage

+ HQ +

Captain [5 PL, 80pts]: Power sword, Storm bolter

Chaplain Venerable Dreadnought [11 PL, 163pts]: 1. Litany of Faith
. Melee weapon: Dreadnought combat weapon, Heavy flamer
. Melee weapon: Dreadnought combat weapon, Heavy flamer

Librarian in Terminator Armor [6 PL, -1CP, 116pts]: 2) Enveloping Darkness, 2) Might of Heroes, Combi-flamer, Force stave, Master of Ambush, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

+ Troops +

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 70pts]
. 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 80pts]
. 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher

Tactical Squad [4 PL, 80pts]
. 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher

+ Elites +

Ironclad Dreadnought [7 PL, 143pts]: Dreadnought chainfist, 2x Hunter-killer missile, Ironclad Assault Launchers, Meltagun
. Dreadnought combat weapon w/Heavy Flamer: Heavy flamer

Ironclad Dreadnought [7 PL, 143pts]: Dreadnought chainfist, 2x Hunter-killer missile, Ironclad Assault Launchers, Meltagun
. Dreadnought combat weapon w/Heavy Flamer: Heavy flamer

+ Fast Attack +

Land Speeders [12 PL, 261pts]
. Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher
. Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher
. Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher

+ Flyer +

Stormtalon Gunship [8 PL, 176pts]: Twin assault cannon, Typhoon missile launcher

++ Total: [176 PL, -3CP, 3,498pts] ++

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So that's what I got to work with at the moment. Should I even bother with this and see if I can't get a similar value/points in Primaris, or is this a good pool of stuff to draw from? Most of this stuff minus the ironclads and stormtalon is pewter or 3rd ed plastics.