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Hey guys, what do you think of this?

The idea is that the noise marines will take combat elixirs to become T5, then the dark apostle and the sorcerer will give them a 5++ and a 5+++.

I really wanted to put the havocs in reserve, but that would have put me over the limit for reinforcements.

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [95 PL, 1,999pts, 12CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment CP

Legion: Emperor's Children

+ No Force Org Slot +

Dark Disciples [1 PL, 10pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 2x Dark Disciple: 2x Close combat weapon

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [7 PL, 145pts]: Chainsword, Jump pack, Mark of Slaanesh, Thunder hammer, Warlord

Dark Apostle [4 PL, 80pts]: Blissful Devotion, Illusory Supplication, Mark of Slaanesh

Sorcerer [5 PL, 90pts]: Bolt pistol, Delightful Agonies, Force sword, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 60pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun: 9x Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 60pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun: 9x Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Noise Marines [20 PL, 460pts]: Icon of Excess
. 2x Marine w/ blastmaster: 2x Blastmaster, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades
. 17x Marine w/ sonic blaster: 17x Bolt pistol, 17x Frag & Krak grenades, 17x Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Combi-plasma, Doom siren, Sonic blaster

+ Elites +

Terminators [16 PL, 316pts]: Icon of Excess, Mark of Slaanesh
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator Champion: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma

+ Heavy Support +

Havocs [7 PL, 175pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Plasma gun
. 4x Havoc w/ reaper chaincannon: 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Reaper chaincannon

Obliterators [10 PL, 210pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 2x Obliterator: 2x Crushing fists, 2x Fleshmetal guns

Obliterators [15 PL, 315pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 3x Obliterator: 3x Crushing fists, 3x Fleshmetal guns

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, Mark of Slaanesh

++ Total: [95 PL, 12CP, 1,999pts] ++

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This seems interesting. But you don't have many troops, thus someone could beat you at holding objectives. Also, I find cultists quite fragile. Considering the fact that soon MEQ will have 2 wounds, I wonder if regular Chaos Marines wouldn't be better.

 Khornate25 wrote:
This seems interesting. But you don't have many troops, thus someone could beat you at holding objectives. Also, I find cultists quite fragile. Considering the fact that soon MEQ will have 2 wounds, I wonder if regular Chaos Marines wouldn't be better.

Re: two wounds - I have a tournament coming up in a couple of weeks, and the extra wound will come with a points hike, so I’ll probably cross that bridge when I come to it.

I’d rather take noise marines than regular CSM if I’m going to take more power armoured troops.

As it stands, surely all CSM troops choices are a bit fragile? I’d argue CSM are *currently* more fragile for their points.

Anticipate running into salamanders - so AP 1 reaper autocannons won't scratch a 'stealthy' opponent - particularly if they also blow strat. I also feel this was a better weapon choice pre-blast weapons...

Maybe swap the Chaos lord for a daemon prince with some min/max? Warp time looks like a 'must have' particularly if you are running a brick of NM - i realize you can swap the power with strat but you likely will want DA and Prescience every turn...

Also as the entire list is literally EC - what about the remnant of mariviglia on the dark apostle? This will let the oblits and NM really tear damage with some positioning (ecsp if you warptime the apostle into a good position -&gt

I also am curious about the combiplasma - it looks like you are really hoping to get prescience off with a 7 (58% success with no reroll) - but from experience this could fail frequently at critical times - even with reroll I think you are just under 80% which means 1/5 times you are failing this - or basically at least once a game assuming you are ready to reroll everytime it fails at cost of CP. So while good for tagging MEQ - you may have some issues with overcharging - particularly against quinns or other armies rocking strong -1 to hit...

Finally - realize that the block of NM are nice but if you mathhammer it with blast weapons i believe on average in assault doctrine 2 units of aggressors will kill the squad (maybe 1 I have to double check) as long as they are near a chapter master or bringing flamers with salamander... Another reason why warptime looks like a must have for this list - the +Str and 2 damage can only really be used in your shooting phase so as the NM die the likelihood of 'doing the dakka' decreases against strong save (2+ -> every SM in the game atm) primaris units is mathematically very weak...

Lastly - what secondaries are you targeting here? I'm guessing those that are enabled by infantry - but just be careful as you have relatively few obsec units and its easy to dethrone a banner - and once the cultists are gone you don't have many units you would be ok with doing 'nothing' per turn... Although the dark apostle I think as it stands now could still do the litany although auras get turned off - this was why I run benediction of darkness - you can check the math but I think against many armies you might be better of with the -1 to hit anyway as the aura you are casting does nothing for your oblits or termies who already have an invul...

Just some food for thought... Best of luck in the tourny.

Prescience is primarily for the noise marine bomb. I was going to use the lord’s re-rolls for them.

Maybe I should drop something to save points for the daemon prince and also a jump pack for the sorcerer.

I’m not that scared of aggressors as I should be able to deal with them from a distance.