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A good while back I managed to score half a dozen dreadnoughts off eBay and over the next dozen years I collected more of them. With the Space Wolves and Blood Angels codex supplements both having dreadnought HQ choices, I'm seriously considering an all-dreadnought army. Have any of you run or encountered such a thing? Here's what I have in mind:

Space Wolves Vanguard Detachment

HQ
Bjorn (Warlord), Heavy flamer, Trueclaw, Twin lascannon (195)
Chaplain Venerable Dreadnought, Dreadnought combat weapon, Storm bolter, Twin lascannon (110 or 168)

Elites
Murderfang (150)
Venerable Dreadnought, Missile launcher, Twin lascannon (155)
Wulfen Dreadnought, axe & shield & heavy flamer (130)
Wulfen Dreadnought, axe & shield & heavy flamer (130)
Wulfen Dreadnought, axe & shield & heavy flamer (130)


Blood Angels Vanguard Detachment

HQ
Librarian Dreadnought (150)
Librarian Dreadnought (150)

Elites
Death Company Dreadnought, Furioso fist (pair), Heavy flamer, Heavy flamer (135)
Furioso Dreadnought, Furioso fist, Heavy flamer, Heavy Frag Cannon (125)
Furioso Dreadnought, Furioso fist, Heavy flamer, Heavy Frag Cannon (125)
Venerable Dreadnought, Missile launcher, Twin lascannon (155)
Venerable Dreadnought, Missile launcher, Twin lascannon (155)


The PC version of Roster Editor says the Chaplain Dreadnought costs 110 points, while the smartphone version says it's 168. I figure the higher cost is correct but I built the above list before I found the rules on belloflostsouls.net (where 9 Power suggests the 168 points rather than 110). To compensate I'll probably swap the chaplain and the wulfen's heavy flamers and pick up another Wulfen or Furioso Dreadnought.

The librarians would likely have Quickening and Wings.

While it's only 14 models, it's 112 Toughness 7 wounds with 3+ armor and -1 damage (everyone has Duty Eternal), and as it's all single-model units Morale isn't a concern. They're all Vehicles so they don't suffer -1 To-Hit when moving and firing heavy weapons, and they can shoot their guns at things they're in melee combat with (notice all those heavy flamers?). Yes you only get 6 command points but it seems reasonably solid for a theme army.

Thoughts? Opinions?

Problem 1 you lose super doctrines and you would probably be better off going pure BA or SW

Problem 2 the chaplain dreadnought is legends now so is not considered legal by most players (although as with most legends models the points should be freely accessible)

Problem 3 your have zero models that can take a relic upgradeing a librarian dreadnought to cheif librarian or better yet if you still intend to use it a chaplain dreadnought to master of sanctity gives them the only legally takeaway relics the chaplain relic being pretty good on a dreadnought

Problem 4 with so many vehicles your auto giving your opponent one secondary of 15vp not insurmountable

Problem 5 you would be more efficient with atleast a couple of non dreadnought deepstrikers for mobility

U02dah4 wrote:

Spoiler:

Problem 1 you lose super doctrines and you would probably be better off going pure BA or SW

Problem 2 the chaplain dreadnought is legends now so is not considered legal by most players (although as with most legends models the points should be freely accessible)

Problem 3 your have zero models that can take a relic upgradeing a librarian dreadnought to cheif librarian or better yet if you still intend to use it a chaplain dreadnought to master of sanctity gives them the only legally takeaway relics the chaplain relic being pretty good on a dreadnought

Problem 4 with so many vehicles your auto giving your opponent one secondary of 15vp not insurmountable

Problem 5 you would be more efficient with atleast a couple of non dreadnought deepstrikers for mobility

Yeah, I have to 2nd U02dah4 on this.
This isn't going to be very effective save for the first two turns. But you're seriously missing out on having something more specialized and capable at this point.

Long gone are the days of Iron Hand's walker supremacy.