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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/07 20:25:35
Subject: Mortarions Detachment Factions and Deepstrike
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hi there!
Mortarion the demon primarch got his faction keywords: CHAOS, NURGLE HERETIC ASTARTES and DEATH GUARD
...and he is DEMON to.
When i set him up in Supreme Command Detachment...
...is this Detachment a Death Guard and a Chaos Demon Detachment?
...if yes: can he benefit from death guard stratagems AND from chaos demons stratagems?
...if yes: can i use the stratagem "DENIZENS OF THE WARP" for 2cp and let Morty deepstrike at the end of the first movement phase?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/07 20:40:37
Subject: Mortarions Detachment Factions and Deepstrike
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The detatchment keyword is a unifying keyword all models in a detatchment have (barring a couple of exceptions with special rules)
If you look at the top of the stratagem page in your rule book under the stratagem title it will tell you the requirement to unlock those strategems. This is often but not always having a detatchment with the relevant keyword but not always so you have to check individually.
Each strategem individually tells you what it effects this usually references keywords so it might say use on a DEATH GUARD unit thus would effect any deathguard model and so if mortarian has the keyword it would effect him a strategem effecting a DEATHGUARD TERMINATOR would not because mortarian is not a terminator
i don't have your rulebooks so can't answer that final question
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/07 20:50:37
Subject: Re:Mortarions Detachment Factions and Deepstrike
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Fresh-Faced New User
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"With Denizens of the warp" it is possible to set up a DEAMON unit in the warp, in deployment phase.
At the end of any movement phases this unit can be set up on the battlefield more than 9" away from enemy models.
Mortarion has the DAEMON keyword.
..i think this is a valid move. I'm just asking because a deepstriking Mortarion is quite scary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/07 20:58:57
Subject: Mortarions Detachment Factions and Deepstrike
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I think if I remember correctly your army requires a deamons detatchment to unlock deamons strategems
If you had a deamons detatchment you would then be able to use that stratagem on mortarion even if he wasn't in the deamons detatchment but check the strategem page in the deamons book to be sure
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/07 21:16:40
Subject: Re:Mortarions Detachment Factions and Deepstrike
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Mortarion doesnt have the Daemon Faction keyword.
Q: When a Stratagem from Codex: Chaos Daemons uses
the Daemon keyword, can it be used to affect any unit with
the Daemon keyword, or only units with the Daemon
Faction keyword?
A: These Stratagems can only affect units with the
Daemon Faction keyword.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/02/07 21:17:15
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/07 21:18:50
Subject: Mortarions Detachment Factions and Deepstrike
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Fair enough
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/07 21:29:01
Subject: Re:Mortarions Detachment Factions and Deepstrike
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Fresh-Faced New User
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p5freak wrote:Mortarion doesnt have the Daemon Faction keyword.
Q: When a Stratagem from Codex: Chaos Daemons uses
the Daemon keyword, can it be used to affect any unit with
the Daemon keyword, or only units with the Daemon
Faction keyword?
A: These Stratagems can only affect units with the
Daemon Faction keyword.
Thanks.
He only got the Keyword, not the faction keyword.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/07 21:42:06
Subject: Mortarions Detachment Factions and Deepstrike
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Mortarion and Magnus are exactly the reason that FAQ entry exists - before that, people were taking a Daemon detachment so they could deep strike them and use Warp Surge to boost their invulnerables.
GW then FAQed it - though in reality this should have been done via erratum instead - to close this apparently unintended interaction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/07 21:57:28
Subject: Mortarions Detachment Factions and Deepstrike
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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Similar vein: Did they ever FAQ CD Auras/Abilities affecting CSM models?
Like Poxbringer buffing morty or the GUO bell combo with blighthauler units?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/07 23:10:36
Subject: Mortarions Detachment Factions and Deepstrike
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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PoorGravitasHandling wrote:Similar vein: Did they ever FAQ CD Auras/Abilities affecting CSM models?
Like Poxbringer buffing morty or the GUO bell combo with blighthauler units?
That's all fair game at the moment, Death Guard Daemons and Daemon Engines buffed by Epidemius can be awesome.
But GW have started to kick at this. You'll be penalised now for taking a Daemon detachment as you'll no longer be pure Death Guard. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if when the Daemons Codex arrives it ends this interplay entirely.
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