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2021/02/22 17:04:47
Subject: Question on super heavy detachments
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
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If I take a super heavy detachment I can choose whatever chapter/legion it is derived from and use all of their strats including psychic awakening and faith and fury (appropriately), right? Regardless of whatever other detachments I take? Specifically I am thinking about bringing my Kytan Daemon Engine as Iron Warriors and then a khorne daemon detachment plus a CSM force patrol. I know MIXED detachments don't get access to faith and fury but since they are all seperate I think it's fine. Can I use the daemon codex deepstrike strat to put my fw csm daemons into deepstrike? Does this work?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2021/02/22 17:16:36
hey what time is it?
"Try looking on page 12 of the FAQ."
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2021/02/22 17:12:56
Subject: Question on super heavy detachments
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Auxiliary Detachments (including the Super Heavy version) don't unlock Stratagems, I believe. They definitely don't get their subfaction traits, though that doesn't matter for CSM Vehicles.
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2021/02/22 17:20:03
Subject: Re:Question on super heavy detachments
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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A super heavy aux detachment (for 1 LOW) doesnt unlock legion specific stratagems, a super heavy detachment does, but you need 3 LOW. And, as JNAProduction already said, a super heavy aux detachment doesnt get detachment abilities, which doesnt matter for CSM vehicles.
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2021/02/22 18:09:01
Subject: Question on super heavy detachments
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Norn Queen
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Aijec wrote:Can I use the daemon codex deepstrike strat to put my fw csm daemons into deepstrike?
No, due to Special Snowflake FAQ for the Daemons codex. They need to have the Faction Keyword "DAEMON". It should work, but for whatever reason Daemon and Tyranid stratagems are different because of reasons.
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2021/02/22 20:36:37
Subject: Question on super heavy detachments
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Confessor Of Sins
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The Reason being GW botched the Keywords on Chaos Daemons and Hive Fleet Tryanids.
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2021/02/23 01:14:34
Subject: Question on super heavy detachments
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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JNAProductions wrote:Auxiliary Detachments (including the Super Heavy version) don't unlock Stratagems, I believe. They definitely don't get their subfaction traits, though that doesn't matter for CSM Vehicles.
"If your army is Battle-forged and includes any Chaos Space Marine Detachments (excluding Auxiliary Support Detachments), you have access to the Stratagems shown here..."
The Legion stratagem pages in Faith & Fury have similar wording.
This would mean that a Super Heavy Auxiliary Detachment would indeed unlock stratagems from the CSM codex or Faith & Fury, as they are not the same as Auxiliary Support Detachments.
Have I missed an update somewhere?
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2021/02/23 03:27:51
Subject: Question on super heavy detachments
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Cheex wrote: JNAProductions wrote:Auxiliary Detachments (including the Super Heavy version) don't unlock Stratagems, I believe. They definitely don't get their subfaction traits, though that doesn't matter for CSM Vehicles.
"If your army is Battle-forged and includes any Chaos Space Marine Detachments (excluding Auxiliary Support Detachments), you have access to the Stratagems shown here..."
The Legion stratagem pages in Faith & Fury have similar wording.
This would mean that a Super Heavy Auxiliary Detachment would indeed unlock stratagems from the CSM codex or Faith & Fury, as they are not the same as Auxiliary Support Detachments.
Have I missed an update somewhere?
Possibly-check the 9th rulebook. It might have words on that.
It may not-I'm not 100% sure.
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2021/02/23 12:27:10
Subject: Question on super heavy detachments
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Norn Queen
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IIRC SHAD get no detachment traits but unlock stratagems unless otherwise specified by the stratagem unlock rule.
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2021/02/23 12:39:18
Subject: Question on super heavy detachments
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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BaconCatBug wrote:IIRC SHAD get no detachment traits but unlock stratagems unless otherwise specified by the stratagem unlock rule.
Agreed, i was wrong before.
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