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Made in us
Implacable Skitarii





Washington, DC

Like other Black Templars list just posted, I'm thinking through future lists and playstyles. I've been playing Night Lords in 9th edition Crusade, which I've structured as a light infantry and ambushing force. Looking to mix it up with the following list, much of which might be able to port to 30k if I ever play:


~1992 points, 9 CP

Patrol 1:

Warpsmith:
- Relic: Axe of the Forgemaster
- Combi-bolter

Troops:
- 5x CSM (Sgt: Powerfist, Combi-bolter; 3x CSM w/ chainsword, bolt pistol; 1x CSM w/ Reaper Chaincannon)
- 5x CSM (Sgt: Powerfist, Combi-bolter; 3x CSM w/ chainsword, bolt pistol; 1x CSM w/ Reaper Chaincannon)

Elites:
- Helbrute (Helbrute Hammer, Twin Heavy Bolter)
- Helbrute (Helbrute Hammer, Twin Heavy Bolter)

Heavy:
- Sicaran Venator, Heavy Bolter Sponsons
- 3x Obliterators

Transport:
- Chaos Rhino (Havoc Launcher, 2x Combi-Bolter)
- Chaos Rhino (Havoc Launcher, 2x Combi-Bolter)


Patrol 2:

Chaos Lord:
- Power Fist, Combi-Bolter
- Warlord: Siege Master

Troops:
- 5x CSM (Sgt: Chainsword, Combi-Bolter; 3x CSM w/ bolter; CSM w/ Heavy Bolter)
- 5x CSM (Sgt: Chainsword, Combi-Bolter; 3x CSM w/ bolter; CSM w/ Heavy Bolter)
- 5x CSM (Sgt: Chainsword, Combi-Bolter; 3x CSM w/ bolter; CSM w/ Heavy Bolter)

Elites:
- Helbrute (Helbrute Hammer, Twin Heavy Bolter)

Heavy:
- 5x Havocs (Sgt: Chainsword, Combi-Bolter; 4x CSM w/ Missile Launcher)
- 5x Havocs (Sgt: Chainsword, Combi-Bolter; 4x CSM w/ Missile Launcher)


Conversion:
- Thinking of converting Tor Garradon and Iron Father Feirros to the different HQs
- Using Iron Circle Automata as the Helbrutes because they look dope.
- Will try to find 30k Mk III helmets and backpacks for the infantry.
- May convert Aggressors instead of Shadowspear Obliterators to mix it up.


Pros:
- Diversity of anti-tank via the Obliterators, Venator, Helbrute Hammers, and Havocs
- Lots of Heavy Bolters with which to wear down Marines. Heavy Bolter -1 AP gets a lot of mileage out of IW legion trait.
- Flex: Havocs can handle both infantry and vehicles
- Flex: Warpsmith can support a Helbrute blob, or the Venator
- Venator would benefit well from Warpsmith and Iron Warrior stratagems.
- Helbrutes and Rhino-transported marines skirmish in the mid-board so the back-line can hold and throw lethality downfield.

Cons:
- Not a tremendous amount of melee
- T1 Venator loss would hurt. Desire to hide it behind terrain also means it would not be firing at full effect (flat 6 damage) first round.
- HQs are babysitters rather than beatsticks.
- List may be CP hungry to support the Havocs, Venator, and Obliterators

I know this is distinct from Daemon Engine Iron Warriors. How do you think it would feel and look on the tabletop? Would it do okay in a light competitive setting (our friend group tends to max/min a bit)?


This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/03/19 20:16:47


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