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I had the idea that it might be fun to build two Incursion size armies that would play well against each other, so that when I have a friend over we could play a short match even if he had no army with him.
I chose Orks because that is what I want to play.
As the other army I chose Ultramarines because an army was cheap to come by with starter boxes and I still had some models from when I played as a kid.

I post the list together in one thread because I would like some ideas to improve the lists. While keeping the matches fun and not too lopsided. I am very interested to hear what people think on the lists and how they compare against each other.


Ork army


The idea behind the list is that 60 Skarboyz with a KFF would be hard to deal with at 1,000 points.
For Secondaries, with 2 units of Kommandos and a Deffkopter the list is geared towards Engage on all Fronts and Deploy Scramblers.
Deploy Scramblers should be especially easy with 2 units of Kommandos out of deep strike. For the third secondary I kind of need to hope for a good mission secondary.


Ultramarine army


The list is made out of the 9th Edition Starter Box plus the Deathwatch Combat Patrol and a Devastator Squad that I had lying around.
It is centered around a lot of shooting with reroll 1s to hits and wounds. As well as healing and reviving by the Chief Apothecary (reviving an Aggressor or Outrider is especially good, that is why I gave him the 3 extra range with the Vox Espiritum).
I plan to use Rapid Fire on the 10-man intercessor. That gives it 60 attacks with the Auto Bolt Rifles and should be quite a threat.
For secondaries I plan to go for Raise the banners, Grind them down and lastly either Oaths of Moment or Domination (depending on the mission).


So what do you think? How do the lists compare?
I was a bit worried initially that the Ultramarines just shoot the Orks to bits with all the blast weapons, so I did some calculations in Excel and on average Aggressors, Intersessors and Devastators should produce around 33 wounds between them against boys protected by a KFF in a round. But that is when all blast weapons give 6 hits and I use Rapid Fire on the intersessors. I did not account for rerolls, though... Do you think that is a bit too much damage output for the Orks to handle?

Thanks in advance for any help!

I think maybe some thought about how they would do in various mission might helped, and what sort of board set-ups might help or hinder them.

Nurglitch wrote:
I think maybe some thought about how they would do in various mission might helped, and what sort of board set-ups might help or hinder them.

mhmmm I hadn't put much thought into the missions I would play, TBH.
I have the foldable gaming boards from the Command edition and the expansion, so a battlefield of 44x30 and around 24 pieces of terrain. For the mission I would probably just throw a die to choose one of the six incursion missions from the rulebook.