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Good afternoon. I'm going back to the well - the community here has been generous with their help before, I hope you'll help me now as well.

I have 2 incomplete figures which I am trying to identify. One looks like a GW LOTR troll, missing a hand, although I'd like to know what it is with more specificity.
The other is missing a head, has tiny hips, a spiked club tail, and spikes along it's back. It's plastic or resin, maybe primed white.

So - anyone recognize them?

Thanks,
Eph

2nd one looks like a finecast GW jabberslythe from beasts of chaos.

First is indeed a LOTR Cave Troll. Usually comes with either hammer hand or spear hand. I think that one looks like it is from the starter set.