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hi all,

my first attempt at a Slaves of Darkness Ravager list after bit of reading, am looking for a bit of council/guidance as wanting a pretty robust list and soon as gotten some feedback intend to buy the models

thanks all

Allegiance: Slaves to Darkness
- Damned Legion: Ravagers
- Mortal Realm: Chamon
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:


CORE BATTALIONS
*Warlord
**Warlord
TOTAL: 1970/2000 WOUNDS: 130
LEADERS: 6/6 BATTLELINES: 3 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 1/4 ARTILLERY: 0/4
ARTEFACTS: 2/1 ENDLESS SPELLS & INVOCATIONS: 0/3 ALLIES: 85/400
REINFORCED UNITS: 2/4 DROPS: 9



LEADERS
Be'Lakor, the Dark Master (360)**
- Spell: Mask of Darkness


Chaos Lord on Karkadrak (225)*
- General
- Command Trait: Bolstered by Hate
- Artefact: Cloak of the Relentless Conqueror
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
- Ravagers Command Trait: Eternal Vendetta


Chaos Sorcerer Lord (135)**
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
- Ravagers Command Trait: Master of Deception
- Spell: Mask of Darkness


Chaos Sorcerer Lord (135)**
- Artefact: Mark of the High-favoured
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
- Ravagers Command Trait: Bolstered by Hate
- Spell: Mask of Darkness


Chaos Lord (120)*
- Reaperblade & Daemonbound Steel
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
- Ravagers Command Trait: Flames of Spite


Bloodstoker (85)*
- Allies



UNITS
20 x Chaos Warriors (400)
- Hand Weapon & Shield
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne


10 x Chaos Knights (340)*
- Cursed Lance
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne


5 x Chaos Knights (170)**
- Ensorcelled Weapons
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh

anyone any list advice on above please

never played AoS or this army, wondering whether worth lances on knights in this setup OR if go with enscrolled weapons how to convert the start collecting knights as they look so so much better

thx,

mat

I've also got the 5 Chaos Knights from the start collecting box with Lance's, and honestly they are quite disappointing. I think the Ensorcelled Weapons are better, but I don't think there is an easy to convert the models.

So I wonder if it be more useful to swap the unit of 10 Knights for 2 units of Marauders?

These are plastic models, it is really easy to convert them from lances to weapons.

Two ways:

Way #1: more complex
1st, buy this pack: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Chaos-Warrior-Halberds-Upgrade-Pack

2nd, trim off hand holding lance at wrist - don't discard though, put in bitz box.

3rd, trim the wrist of the halberd hands to fit the wrist of the knight . Maybe trim off the lower halberd haft to leave just an axe. But this is just preference as either way you've now got a weapon that is NOT a lance....

4th, Attach new hand to knights arm.
Personally I would go to the effort of pinning or magnetizing all of the hands to be swappable. Because at some point you might decide that you want lances for some reason.

End results of how well your conversions look depends upon your skill. But you don't become skilled without starting somewhere & hand swaps are pretty simple.

Way #2: EASY
The really easy way to do this is to
1st, buy this pack https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Chaos-Warrior-Halberds-Upgrade-Pack

2nd, trim off the lower haft of those halberds.

3rd, attach the weapons to the models backs/belts/saddles etc as looks good.
This of course will not look as good as having the models posed using the weapons, but they are there.
You can also avoid making it a permanent addition by attaching the weapon with a small amount of sticky-tac.

4th, refer to the roster you've written - paper/app/Battlescribe etc as to wich weapon the unit is using this particular game.

#2 ignores point of wysiwyg and indeed doesn't do lt so you can just as well not bother with it.if tournament expects wysiwyg that won't fly.

tneva82 wrote:
#2 ignores point of wysiwyg and indeed doesn't do lt so you can just as well not bother with it.if tournament expects wysiwyg that won't fly.

If you find yourself in a tourney that strict? Then you should walk away because the people running it are
See, having taken a good look at the sprue? You are correct in that nothing actually needs to be done. Not because it doesn't matter (on that your simply wrong), but because those SC models are already sculpted with assorted non-lance weapons. There's a spiked mace on ones back, a sword, I see another sword on a belt.... Infact, some like that mace look integral to the piece their molded onto.
So if your hyper-strict tourney wouldn't allow extra converted axe-like weapons attached to belts & whatnot? Then they wouldn't allow these models to start with either.

thx for advice all i am comfortable converting have bought 11 blood warrior axes which i think will look smart combined with some head swaps for the knights

having looked at stats/math hammer can now see enscrolled weapons way way more reliable and lances only just pip them by 2 damage just on charge but only lasts one turn and i would have to get the charge aswell thx all