[Necromunda] News & Rumors. Genestealers and Spyrers. p.73

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**Waaagh_Gonads**

For me this is a must have. I skipped the last 2 large box sets due to price, and got the rules on ebay and bought the minis later.
But this is all new, I have walls for terrain (MDF) so not worried about their absence and it returns to the under hive where the game belongs.
Also finally, genestealer faction rules.

Fantastic.

**SgtEeveell**

Altruizine wrote:
Overread wrote:
Altruizine wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
The other reason it was "poorly marketed" is that the word of mouth from the fans has things like "Its 2 years and we don't have Delaque vehicle yet " [b]when they literally said that not every faction would get vehicles.

In which article did they say that?

I recall it being said fairly early on in the marketing that not every faction would get one. I don't think they highlighted at the start which factions would and wouldn't get one. Which to me is a huge problem because it basically turns off people from being interested.

I doubt they said any such thing, and my instinct says Kanluwen is making it up.

I just skimmed ~10 of the Warhammer Community articles about the Ash Wastes releases and saw no such announcement.

I don't remember that either. Even if they had said something like that, one would think it would apply to Corpse Grinders, Palanites, Venators and the other minor gangs. Not the big six.

I would never have expected Squats & Palanites getting vehicles before Delaque.

**MajorWesJanson**

SgtEeveell wrote:
Altruizine wrote:
Overread wrote:
Altruizine wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
The other reason it was "poorly marketed" is that the word of mouth from the fans has things like "Its 2 years and we don't have Delaque vehicle yet " [b]when they literally said that not every faction would get vehicles.

In which article did they say that?

I recall it being said fairly early on in the marketing that not every faction would get one. I don't think they highlighted at the start which factions would and wouldn't get one. Which to me is a huge problem because it basically turns off people from being interested.

I doubt they said any such thing, and my instinct says Kanluwen is making it up.

I just skimmed ~10 of the Warhammer Community articles about the Ash Wastes releases and saw no such announcement.

I don't remember that either. Even if they had said something like that, one would think it would apply to Corpse Grinders, Palanites, Venators and the other minor gangs. Not the big six.

I would never have expected Squats & Palanites getting vehicles before Delaque.

Squats got one in resin, and Palanites stole theirs from the Elysians, but point taken on Delaque. Maybe they would have stolen the Sandworm transporter from the Sisters of Silence.

**Sasorijap**

Very Interesting theme lore wise. The minis are not that exciting imo.

**lord_blackfang**

I suspect Delaque are an abysmal seller. The lore and aesthetics have nothing to do with original Delaque so they piss grognards off. GW tried to force it by changing the starter mid edition to push Delaque with no luck and at this point they may just be silent squatted (existing but not actively developed). We're going on what, 2 years without a plastic release?

**leopard**

I got Ash Wastes, I got it mostly for the terrain and models, quite like it really.

what they needed was one or two "generic" vehicles, civilian types, like the Cargo-8, maybe something more "car" sized like a small Hilux, and then a generic bike

stuff any gang can use, alongside the more specialised stuff, and stuff that can also be terrain/mission objectives

this new set looks interesting, at a guess the naff board and lack of actual walls in the box is about trying to control the cost of the box to stop it being in "how much???" territory

even so I suspect it will be overpriced for what is in it

still have the delaque from the hive war box unassembled to do something with. the Escher from that set are excellent though

Guess GW find it hard to keep a game going where once you have a single box of figures the game is perfectly playable and the rest is entirely optional. sort of goes against the plastic crack business model

**lord_blackfang**

Yea needed a generic buggy and generic truck (okay, we got this one, just with a bad sculpt and an unusually inefficient sprue layout) with merc crew.

Then House sprues with House crew and bespoke upgrade bits and maybe a bespoke bike.

**leopard**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Yea needed a generic buggy and generic truck (okay, we got this one, just with a bad sculpt and an unusually inefficient sprue layout) with merc crew.

Then House sprues with House crew and bespoke upgrade bits and maybe a bespoke bike.

I mean you do get the rules to make such things from other models, just seems curious for GW to provide that without such models

not to mention do them right and a reboot of Dark Future, on Necromunda if desired covering road wars on a trade route is basically a single book away

**Dysartes**

Mentlegen324 wrote:
That's making the assumption that the Imperium fully understands all Tau tech, though. Some of it could very well be based on ideas that the Imperium no longer has a full grasp of. Regardless though, it's the Tau codex itself that suggests the link between them.

Why destroy anything potentially cool and/or interesting about the Spyrers by linking them to the... shudder... Tau?

**zedmeister**

Dysartes wrote:
Mentlegen324 wrote:
That's making the assumption that the Imperium fully understands all Tau tech, though. Some of it could very well be based on ideas that the Imperium no longer has a full grasp of. Regardless though, it's the Tau codex itself that suggests the link between them.

Why destroy anything potentially cool and/or interesting about the Spyrers by linking them to the... shudder... Tau?

There's nothing remotely Tau-esque in their æsthetic. Volkite gauntlets, power claws and various other imperial cues. I wouldn't be surprised if the Orrus suits aren't actually derrived in some form from the Lorica Thallax suits. The Orrus remind me a little of of the Ursurax design:

**Scottywan82**

lord_blackfang wrote:
I suspect Delaque are an abysmal seller.

That would really surprise me. I see people using Delaque bodies for conversions a lot online which makes me suspect they sell really well as kitbash fodder even if the gang itself is not very popular.

**Haighus**

Spryers being linked to Tau did always seem a bit odd. I think MDGs theory in the lore thread of it in fact being Demiurg/Kin tech is much more plausible.

However, the original lore in Outlanders was written by Andy Chambers, who also later co-wrote the first Tau codex. So it isn't an accident, although obviously the Tau link is unconfirmed and based on in-universe perspectives. I think the original intent was probably Eldar tech though- the loadouts are nothing like Tau gear, but a lot are reminiscent of Eldar equipment like Yeld being very similar to Swooping Hawks and Malcodons pulling a lot from Warp Spiders (without Warp packs).

I'm very interested to see what they do with the new Spyrer lore once it is released.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/20/join-the-underhive-headhunt-with-the-malcadon-yeld-and-jakara-spyrers/

Where the Orrus is classed as a Heavy Spyre Hunter, the Malcadon, Yeld, and Jakara are Light Spyrers. And while their looks have evolved, they all still function the same as they did when they first terrorised the underhive in 1996.

Cunningly tooled to fit the same sprue, these three variants share bodies but retain their signature armaments and unique methods of fighting.

The archetypes remain the same. The Malcadon is still a hyper-mobile brawler with paired claws and web incisors, though they now sport a drop rig and a grapnel launcher as standard, and may switch the claws for paired toxin whips. The Yeld is a flyer who can pick paired laser gauntlets or missile gauntlets, while the Jakara fights with a mirror shield and either a monomolecular blade or naga blade.

The kit comes with four bodies, and the armaments are interchangeable for a high degree of posability. This modularity also means that you can mix and match loadouts to create your leader, a Spyre Hunt Master skilled in numerous disciplines and, therefore, even more of a terror to dispatch…

We’ll preview some of the rules closer to release, but suffice it to say that each Spyre Hunter is pricy in credits and deadly in the field. But what they lack in numbers, they make up for in activations – of which they have four each per turn. The name of Helmawr will be whispered in fear once again…

**Overread**

Darn those lights are fantastic looking models!

**Tim the Biovore**

Well that didn't take long

**Shadow Walker**

Yeld is my favourite one.

**Graphite**

I was expecting these to trickle out over months. Very nice!

**grahamdbailey**

By the mention of a Spyre Hunt Master, I'm guessing the Matriarch and Patriarch won't be forthcoming.

**StudentOfEtherium**

these look incredible. love the wings!

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Mmm. Weapon options!

Maybe my TurboDork air paints might get another outing.

**KidCthulhu**

I don't know if its the shared bodies or the paintjobs, but I'm not impressed. They look less distinct than the original metals. In fact, they just look like Van Saars.

I'm guessing the bottom one is the ~~Autarch~~ Hunt Master who took a Jakara weapon and a Malcadon weapon?

**Segersgia**

grahamdbailey wrote:
By the mention of a Spyre Hunt Master, I'm guessing the Matriarch and Patriarch won't be forthcoming.

I truly believe a patriarch or matriarch model might eventually come out as a resin model with this reveal.

As to stoke the fires of the T'au origin, I just noticed that these suits are hooved. Even the Orrus is hooved.

**ImAGeek**

I like these quite a lot, the Orrus too. Was expecting them to be a while out to be fair but not complaining. I like the interchangeable bodies, should hopefully be quite a versatile kit.

**Mentlegen324**

While those new Spyrer models look pretty great in themselves....It's a bit disappointing how they've done them. Instead of having 3 very differently styled unique looking suits like the classic versions were, it's the same design and style, but with different weapon options. Makes them feel less like unique variants/patterns of Spyrer suit and instead there's now just a "heavy" and a "light" suit.

**NAVARRO**

Love them! Please tell me they are plastic?

**spiralingcadaver**

At first glance these are pretty cool, but the Malcadon(? upper left) pose is... uhh... wtf is happening with that model's pelvis? The torso armor is swinging left into the tiny stick leg and then the right looks like a decent kitbash from a slightly larger scale it's so much thicker.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

just an artifact of the photograph (and maybe some cutting inside the lines from the photoshop intern) since the body is the same as the other two

**lord_blackfang**

Cool all spyrers are now one body with arm swaps

**Tastyfish**

NAVARRO wrote:
Love them! Please tell me they are plastic?

They're saying it's four bodies on one sprue, so presumably plastic. But they might mean 4 bodies in one kit and it's two bodies per kit and the best use of a tactical rock to repose bodies we've seen so far.

**StraightSilver**

Yeah, I'm not entirely convinced by these, but I also always hated the original Spyrer models and these are at least an improvement.

Are all 4 bodies female though? Could it not have been 2 male and 2 female? I have absolutely no issue with female minis (in fact would love more) but it just seems odd that the heavy Spyrers are male and the light Spyrers are all female....