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The origin of Thrice Course Traitors is veterans of The Sons of Horus. Although they participated in Horus Hersey, they did not submit to Abaddon or join any new masters after heresy failure, but always venerate their Primary Horus and regarded it as the only master. Therefore, they are hated by Abaddon and called as the Thrice Course Traitors

The typical representative of this is "True Sons", who still revere Horus and retain the color of the previous XVI legion.

For these chaos fighters, do they mindset more closely to Iron Warriors and regard chaos as a weapon and tool? Or are they more "gray" and may not even belong to chaos marines? (I mean, proxy them with miniatures of old MK IV、MKVI armor instead of vanila Chaos space marines).



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A idea:

A Thrice Coursed Traitors Warband,
Renegade,but not (so much) Chaos,
Noble Villain,

In terms of rules, they are counts as regular chaos Space marines, but in terms of fuluff, they are not (at least not completely).

They only revere and loyal their fallen primarch Horus and dont give any gak to chaos and anyone else.

They use Captured Tyranids Carnifex modified become some sort of battle servitor,counts as Forgefiend and Maulfiend.

that would be intresting.

Well, the imperium probably considers them chaos marines and considers any further differentiation heretical to contemplate. ;D

But more seriously, their back story (according to lexicanum) seems to be that they were a fraction of a fraction of a faction that then went into the Eye for a long time and came out as a bunch of individual warbands. So they could dress/fight pretty much anyway you want them too. Go as light or heavy on the mutations and chaos taint as you want. Make them as polite or rude as you like. It's all fair game, although living in the Eye for so long probably hasn't made them Salamanders-level friendly. Use whichever loyalist or traitor codex fits your personal take on them best.

To me, being the splintered remains of such a small faction to begin with suggests that they should be few in number, but ever marine they have is a survivor that has had to face off with the perils of the Eye for millennia. So with that in mind, and without having any idea what the current CSM book looks like, I'd be tempted to do something like:

A.) Death Watch: Mix and match different types of dudes into your squads. Maybe convert up some cool chaos-y mutants or warp tech to count as primaris marines. Hand out as many relics/special wargear options as you can. Use dreadnaught rules for your carnifex.

B.) Grey Knights: Similar to the above, but with more emphasis on warp taint and special weapons. Basically, flavor all the psychic powers and force weapons as "chaos blessings" and "daemon weapons." The upside here is that they have some anti-chaos rules that make sense for a faction that has survived in the Eye that long and is known for fighting chaos.

C.) Space Wolves. Take lots of characters. Take wulfen for your more mutated warband members. Again, dreads for the carnifex. Wolves' in your face approach is a decent fit for Heresy era shock assault tactics preferred by Horus's lads.