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This came up earlier, and from my reading of the rules is flat out not permitted but I'm told its common on battle reports (don't watch enough to know)

Model "A" charges model "B", moves directly towards them, uses say half its movement allowance to make contact, then uses more of the allowance to slide around to the rear with the intention of allowing another model to then charge into the space.

My reading of the rules is that they quite clearly state once the models make contact neither can move further during the movement phase.

I accept if you have the movement to go around while outside the zone of control and then charge in from the back thats fine, and then obviously others can charge if they too can make contact.

has anyone else seen this? is there some FAQ or is it just a common house rule to allow it?

Yep, you can do this provided you finish your move in base contact with the model who's control zone you have entered and you don't go through another models control zone without charging them too

Bobug wrote:
Yep, you can do this provided you finish your move in base contact with the model who's control zone you have entered and you don't go through another models control zone without charging them too

not doubting it, but where in the rulebook is this covered?

I can see being able to move into the control zone if charging (page 24), and that once in the zone you can continue to move if you have movement as long as you end in base contact (page 25).

however page 24 is also clear that once you make contact there is no further movement (page 24)

so presumably what you have to do to circumnavigate is to get to say a few mm away and then go round before finally moving inwards?

page 25 also notes that an engaged model has no control zone, and also that you can ignore control zones of other models as long as you end in base contact with the model you charged once within the charged models zone of control (i.e. cannot charge past a model but one being next to the target doesn't stop you)

if I read all that right you can't literally charge in and then shuffle round but you can charge towards them and orbit a bit before making contact if you have the movement to do so? and that the only thing that can stop this (other than a lack of movement) is another model physically in the way such that you would have to contact both and be unable to fit between them.


all fair enough, just one of those things that one page says you can't do then another says you can, in a slightly different way, at least its the page opposite not half way through the book

You don't have to charge closest distance and immediately go base to base when you enter a control zone. You just stay 0,0001mm away from base to base contact and use remaining movement to "glide" around your charge target. As soon as you have entered that first control zone you can ignore any other control zones as long as you end in base to base with the first target. You don't have to charge the additional models whose control zones you entered after that first control zone unlike what Bobug said. If that was the case you could easily make models safe from charges by spreading them out a bit and have overlapping control zones.

Klickor wrote:
You don't have to charge closest distance and immediately go base to base when you enter a control zone. You just stay 0,0001mm away from base to base contact and use remaining movement to "glide" around your charge target. As soon as you have entered that first control zone you can ignore any other control zones as long as you end in base to base with the first target. You don't have to charge the additional models whose control zones you entered after that first control zone unlike what Bobug said. If that was the case you could easily make models safe from charges by spreading them out a bit and have overlapping control zones.

yeah thats how I'm seeing it move in, make contact without actually making contact if needed then orbit in close proximity, presumably taunting and making comments about Elderberries and similar, seems a tad gamey (would make more sense if you had to orbit outside arms reach) however its pretty clear on re-reading the appropriate few pages how its intended to work.

also decently clear how to prevent it (i.e. as noted have a second and third model to the sides just under 25mm apart so nothing can get between them) so really only lone models or widely spaced ones will get actually trapped by it

cheers all