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Hi all,

My gaming group and I have been playing 40k 8th again, and one of the players has
Votann.

I have not played them (neither has he), so thought I would pop on here and ask for a
bit of advice from those of you who might be more knowledgeable with 9th and Votaan.

If we wanted to try and convert Votann back to 8th edition, what problems will we need
to tackle in order to do so?

How varied are the points between 8th (assuming we are using the last 8th Munitorum Field
Manual points and errata) and what we might find for Votann in 9th?

Would the 9th points values be a good place to start for the Votann units?

Thanks in advance!

 flakpanzer wrote:
Hi all,

My gaming group and I have been playing 40k 8th again, and one of the players has
Votann.

I have not played them (neither has he), so thought I would pop on here and ask for a
bit of advice from those of you who might be more knowledgeable with 9th and Votaan.

If we wanted to try and convert Votann back to 8th edition, what problems will we need
to tackle in order to do so?

How varied are the points between 8th (assuming we are using the last 8th Munitorum Field
Manual points and errata) and what we might find for Votann in 9th?

Would the 9th points values be a good place to start for the Votann units?

Thanks in advance!

I think using the current pts for Votann found in the most recent Munitorum Field Manual is a good start, I am guessing you will have to increase Votann pts over time, unless you are running optimized lists then you might end up having to adjust Votann units down to be cheaper.

You might have to adapt the secondaries to fit whatever mission format you are playing if the mission is supposed to include 8th edition faction secondaries.

I would remove the ignore invulns ability from rail weapons, it is cringe and doesn't fit with 8th edition. Adjust pts as you deem fair. Maybe find some of the glass cannons in the codex and adjust offensive profiles to fit in line with 8th edition if you're not using wombo-combos and optimized 8th edition lists. 8th had lower average damage, with a few outliers and combos, 9th has fewer combos and less powerful combos but a much higher baseline of damage output and value I would say. I have no expertise on the Votann beyond having read the codex but I hope this helps a little or gets someone more knowledgable to chime in.

I'm thinking you'd also have to scale back Judgement Tokens a lot. IIRC, autowound abilities were very rare in 8th, just porting JT over with Votaan's weapons would just be broken.

Thanks for the replies! Really appreciate the insight.