Shooting to units with mixed toughness?

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**Killatores**

When an unit contains different toughness profiles, how does the wound roll work?

Allocating the attacks happens after the wound roll, so what wound profile you use?

**Aash**

Killatores wrote:
When an unit contains different toughness profiles, how does the wound roll work?

Allocating the attacks happens after the wound roll, so what wound profile you use?

Page 15 of the Designer’s Commentary:

Unit’s Toughness Characteristic: If an Attached unit contains models with different Toughness characteristics, for the purpose of determining that unit’s Toughness characteristic, use the highest Toughness characteristic amongst that unit’s Bodyguard models.
If a non-Attached unit contains models with different Toughness characteristics, for the purpose of determining that unit’s Toughness characteristic, use the highest Toughness characteristic amongst all of that unit’s models. In either case, When resolving attacks against such a unit, determine that unit’s Toughness characteristic when it is selected as a target.

**Killatores**

Aash wrote:
Killatores wrote:
When an unit contains different toughness profiles, how does the wound roll work?

Allocating the attacks happens after the wound roll, so what wound profile you use?

Page 15 of the Designer’s Commentary:

Unit’s Toughness Characteristic: If an Attached unit contains models with different Toughness characteristics, for the purpose of determining that unit’s Toughness characteristic, use the highest Toughness characteristic amongst that unit’s Bodyguard models.
If a non-Attached unit contains models with different Toughness characteristics, for the purpose of determining that unit’s Toughness characteristic, use the highest Toughness characteristic amongst all of that unit’s models. In either case, When resolving attacks against such a unit, determine that unit’s Toughness characteristic when it is selected as a target.

Does that mean gretching go up to T5 when Zodgrod Wortsnagga leads them?

**usernamesareannoying**

Killatores wrote:
Aash wrote:
Killatores wrote:
When an unit contains different toughness profiles, how does the wound roll work?

Allocating the attacks happens after the wound roll, so what wound profile you use?

Page 15 of the Designer’s Commentary:

Unit’s Toughness Characteristic: If an Attached unit contains models with different Toughness characteristics, for the purpose of determining that unit’s Toughness characteristic, use the highest Toughness characteristic amongst that unit’s Bodyguard models.
If a non-Attached unit contains models with different Toughness characteristics, for the purpose of determining that unit’s Toughness characteristic, use the highest Toughness characteristic amongst all of that unit’s models. In either case, When resolving attacks against such a unit, determine that unit’s Toughness characteristic when it is selected as a target.

Does that mean gretching go up to T5 when Zodgrod Wortsnagga leads them?

no, you use the toughness 2 of the unit. his tougness of 5 only comes in to play if he is on his own.

**Killatores**

usernamesareannoying wrote:

no, you use the toughness 2 of the unit. his tougness of 5 only comes in to play if he is on his own.

Didnt you just quoted that the highest Toughness is the one used?

**Matt.Kingsley**

Killatores wrote:
usernamesareannoying wrote:

no, you use the toughness 2 of the unit. his tougness of 5 only comes in to play if he is on his own.

Didnt you just quoted that the highest Toughness is the one used?

Only for units without an attached Character
EDIT: or rather, for a unit with an attached character you only consider toughness values from the Bodyguard

**usernamesareannoying**

If an Attached unit contains models with different Toughness characteristics, for the purpose of determining that unit’s Toughness characteristic, use the highest Toughness characteristic amongst that unit’s Bodyguard models.

If a non-Attached unit contains models with different Toughness characteristics, for the purpose of determining that unit’s Toughness characteristic, use the highest Toughness characteristic amongst all of that unit’s models.

**RedNoak**

That's why under the Gretchen card it says that the toughness of the runtherd is considered to be 2.
Otherwise a unit of gretchin would always have t4

**Killatores**

RedNoak wrote:
That's why under the Gretchen card it says that the toughness of the runtherd is considered to be 2.
Otherwise a unit of gretchin would always have t4

Only against ranged attack though. In combat they are T5 apparently

**RedNoak**

oh WOW you are right...
gretchin have T5 in CC xD

**alextroy**

Those Runtherds don't want to miss a scrap! Up to the front the go.

**usernamesareannoying**

Apologies killatores.
I didn’t realize there was a t5 runtherd in the unit naturally.
T5 gretchen in melee 🤦🏼‍♂️ lol