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I'll kick the discussion off with Tank Shock

The Desecrator Warpstrike Claw is S20, and almost guaranteed to be higher toughness than the charged unit, so that's 22D6 causing MWs on a 5+. Pretty much guarantees the full 6MW for 1CP before you even get to the fight phase

The latest nerfs to TOWERING and overwatch are going to hit hard. As well as the points increases

I can still squeeze my 13 war dogs into 2000pts, so I'm not necessarily bothered by the points hikes, but I did feel they were largely unnecessary.

So, post balance update, are Brigands and Battle Cannons still favourites?

I took a load of Brigands and a Despoiler dual-wielding battle cannons against Sisters earlier in the week...

Whilst the battle cannons were amazing at deleting Paragon Warsuits, I can't help feeling that one battle cannon and a thermal cannon would have been a better combo for more efficient dealing with tanks. I don't think the gatling cannon is necessary with all the Brigands.

What do other people recommend?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/mijwqkw4/chaos-knights-revealed-darkflame-and-a-deadly-drill-make-the-knight-ruinator-a-hellacious-headhunter/

Do you think these new Knights will change the current all War Dogs meta?

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Do you think these new Knights will change the current all War Dogs meta?

Only if they're about 300 points each. But honestly? Screw the meta. I want my Big Frikkin' Drill!

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Do you think these new Knights will change the current all War Dogs meta?

Only if they're about 300 points each. But honestly? Screw the meta. I want my Big Frikkin' Drill!

Not a Harpoon?

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Do you think these new Knights will change the current all War Dogs meta?

Only if they're about 300 points each. But honestly? Screw the meta. I want my Big Frikkin' Drill!

Not a Harpoon?

House Dunbarrow likes to get up in your grill. We will absolutely take smashing someone with a drill over firing a harpoon at them. The huge flamer is just a nice bonus.