Peachy has left the Painting Phase and started a channel of his own - Peachy Tips

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**BrookM**

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His new channel: https://www.youtube.com/@PeachyTips

Statement:

I’ve left the Painting Phase

It is with a heavy heart that I must bid farewell to The Painting Phase. When offered the opportunity to join the channel over a year ago, I relished the chance to do something I love with a friend; spreading that love to the gaming community and hopefully helping bring more enjoyment to others in the hobby both inside and outside of the world of warhammer.
Yet, as time passed, it became increasingly evident that despite my contributions, dedication and loyalty, it would never evolve into something that I would be considered to be an equal partner in and will always remain driven by the vision and aspiration of its original creator.

And so, after much reflection, I have made the difficult decision to step away. It is not a choice made lightly but one based on my drive to pursue authenticity and create fun engaging content that I hope others will enjoy and will support them on their own hobby journeys.

As I embark on this new chapter, I carry with me the cherished memories and lessons learned from The Painting Phase and I wish the channel well. Yet, I am also excited about the prospect of charting my own course, of creating something that reflects my unique vision and values.

I extend my sincerest gratitude to all who have supported me on this journey thus far. Your encouragement and understanding mean the world to me. And though I part ways with The Painting Phase, I hope you will continue to accompany me on the path ahead, my new adventure and channel, PEACHY TIPS!

With heartfelt appreciation,
Peachy

**Prometheum5**

I'll join with the crowd of folks who didn't know Painting Phase existed before Peachy joined. Shame that they couldn't all get on the same page, it seemed like they had decent on-screen chemistry. I like Peachy but not enough to support a solo effort and I wonder if the market is getting a bit saturated with solo miniature content creator Patreon dudes.

**Ghaz**

Big changes in the painting channels, with Peachy launching his own YouTube channel and Juan Hidalgo going full time and (partially) behind a paywall on Patreon.

**Tim the Biovore**

I'm actually very curious what this will mean for The Painting Phase. Absolutely no disrespect to Pat and Geoff, but it was Peachy who put them on the radar for most people, and it was his insight on the inner workings of GW on almost every level except the very top and the pre-existing rapport he had with most every guest that made their primary podcasting content engaging. I think they've established the brand well enough now to get by, but losing the star player right after moving to a new studio is going to hurt. The two of them alone are decent enough, but with time being a premium "decent enough" might not be enough to compete.

I'm much more confident in Peachy's success from here on out. There's never going to be another Duncan, but Sugs seems quite happy with how her solo venture has gone, and if personal satisfaction was the main consideration on his departure, then it's hard to imagine this not being better for him. Looking forward to seeing it happen.

**totalfailure**

Got to say, I’d never heard of The Painting Phase either before Chris Peach arriving there. When he was with GW, I found his Knight of Shrouds video very helpful.

I wish both channels the best of luck going forward, but boy, just like there are too many hobby paint ranges out there now, YouTube is just inundated with way too many painting channels these days for everyone to make a living at it.

**TalonZahn**

Torvarion talks about the saturation some in his latest video.

The "how to paint X" and "Tutorial" videos are really trailing off in views since there are so many out there now.

Seems people doing vids are going to have to find their actual niche instead of just these staples.

I unsubbed from Ninjon and Miniac since it seems there's a TON of videos being puked out that are the same topics while they search for their spot.

Squidmar has a good video of how channels are "stealing" from his ideas, etc.. It's in jest, but it's not off the mark.

**Kalamadea**

Tim the Biovore wrote:
Absolutely no disrespect to Pat and Geoff, but it was Peachy who put them on the radar for most people, and it was his insight on the inner workings of GW on almost every level except the very top and the pre-existing rapport he had with most every guest that made their primary podcasting content engaging.

Absolutely, and this is going to be my issue with both channels going forward. Pat and Geoff are nice enough, but neither really paints nor plays enough to carry a show. Peachy is wildly interesting when discussing the GW inside information, especially when playing off of a good guest, but I honestly don't care much about his painting content. His painting is fine, their content is fine, but altogether they made for a really great show. When it's just Pat and Geoff then there's too little hobby discussion and too much wedding, barber and former soldier stories. Peachy painting stuff is no more or less interesting than dozens of other painting channels out there, many of whom I no longer watch since it's too saturated as it is.

I'm another person that'd never heard of Painting Phase before Peachy joined, not sure how much interest they'll keep without him. I'm subscribed to both for now, we'll see how that plays out.

**Snord**

This is a bit sad. I'm also someone who only came across the Painting Phase when Chris Peach joined, although I only had a vague idea of who he was at the time. I'm not really into the whole celebrity hobbyist thing, and I actually find Youtube videos kind of annoying when you actually want to understand how something was done - I prefer written words and photos, and all of the self-referential stuff that Youtubers engage in gets tedious quickly. However, I thought that the 3 Painting Phasers had good chemistry, and presented different perspectives on the hobby; Chris was the seasoned hobbyist with industry knowledge, Pat was the enthusiastic novice (with a nice line in self-deprecating humour), and Geoff the long-term gamer / player. I suspect that Chris was responsible for attracting most of the big name interviewees they got (I don't mean the other Youtubers). While I quite like his approach to painting (and in particular his commitment to drybrushing), I don't watch many of his painting-only videos. I agree that the Painting Phase was greater than the sum of its parts, and that going solo isn't necessarily the best course. However, there have clearly been tensions behind the genial façade that they presented. Chris seems to have been burned badly by his experiences near the end of his time at GW, and is probably keen to have 100% control of what he does.

**Sgt. Cortez**

I haven't seen a lot of what they did because it was too hard for me to understand their british slang, especially Geoff. Peachy was okay, but to understand Geoff's mumbling I usually had to read the comments.
Overall I don’t care much for the Youtube hobby content. Give me a well written goonhammer article, but don't waffle on stuff for 10min. Or 2 hours.

**BrookM**

A few days ago Sugs had a fun stream where she shed some more light on why so many left GW at the time, she's not as comfortable as Peachy to talk about how things were when she worked there, but she has given a lot of insight into the changes GW was going through back then, moving towards the much loathed "only hands" period which GW after backlash has moved away from again not so long ago, plus GW putting out more varied tutorials on their main YT channel as well.

I think Peachy's niche is going to more of a "fight the grey!" thing as opposed to a lot of other channels out there, his Painting Phase tutorials, at least the ones I saw, were mostly of the sort to get quick and nice results, much like Sonic Sledgehammer, who also found his niche in doing these great, laidback tutorials on how to get nice results without going too overboard with things.

**alphaecho**

I might have to continue checking out his vids.

At the moment, my two ongoing Imperial Guard projects are Ventrillian Nobles and masking tape cloaked Tanith.

Both of those originated from Peachy in both his GW and Paintjng Phase periods.

Plus, I'm sure Peachy Tips is a play on PG Tips and I used to love those Chimpanzee adverts.

**Scottywan82**

It's strange to me that there are seemingly so many channels for painting tutorials out now, but I feel like so many miniatures and sets don't have any sort of tutorial. Trying to find any for Dark Elf figures or Dwarfs or Skaven is all but impossible.

I'd love to see a video for Cold One Knights or the Screaming Bell with the same attention YouTube gives to painting Space Marine armor or skeleton warriors.

**Patriarch**

Scottywan82 wrote:
It's strange to me that there are seemingly so many channels for painting tutorials out now, but I feel like so many miniatures and sets don't have any sort of tutorial. Trying to find any for Dark Elf figures or Dwarfs or Skaven is all but impossible.

I'd love to see a video for Cold One Knights or the Screaming Bell with the same attention YouTube gives to painting Space Marine armor or skeleton warriors.

It will be where the general interest is. Marines and skeletons are almost ubiquitous amongst hobbyists so videos on them will attract views, but I doubt GW has sold any cold one knights since AOS took off.

**tneva82**

Your doubt is wrong.

Though yea. How much money painting chanels get from cold one knight/screaming bell tutorials...

Tutorials are for what brings in dollars.

**Tannhauser42**

Good luck to him, but I doubt I'll watch any of his videos. I enjoyed watching The Painting Phase specifically because of the banter between the three of them and their guest (whenever they had one).

**xttz**

Tannhauser42 wrote:
Good luck to him, but I doubt I'll watch any of his videos. I enjoyed watching The Painting Phase specifically because of the banter between the three of them and their guest (whenever they had one).

Same here. I'll keep watching TPP for a bit and give Peachy's content a go, but I strongly suspect both channels will be worse off for this change.

The Painting Phase was successful because they all brought something to the mix that worked together. Splitting up the team is like having to eat flour, eggs, and milk instead of cake.

**Shooter**

Yeah, but in that analogy Peachy is the tub of pre-made chocolate icing

Given the amount of ex-GW peeps around Nottingham I doubt he'll have any issues finding any go presenters if he wants a podcast/chatshow format

**Crispy78**

alphaecho wrote:

Plus, I'm sure Peachy Tips is a play on PG Tips and I used to love those Chimpanzee adverts.

Did not notice that at all. Well played Peachy!

**Tastyfish**

Shooter wrote:
Yeah, but in that analogy Peachy is the tub of pre-made chocolate icing

Given the amount of ex-GW peeps around Nottingham I doubt he'll have any issues finding any go presenters if he wants a podcast/chatshow format

I suspect he didn't and that was the problem, as having a quick look at their page only about a quarter or less of the last twenty videos or so are about painting.
I vaguely remember them saying that the shorts weren't that easy to monetize either as Youtube isn't set up in quite the same way as TikTok for that style of video.

**Ghaz**

Well, Peachy just had two new painting videos drop on The Painting Phase...

Really looking forward to Peachy's new channel, especially if he sticks to using the AK Interactive paints

**mattl**

He has a new Patreon up with a Discord too..

https://www.patreon.com/PeachyTips

**RedSarge**

I suspected something with the last two videos not having Peachy, but then tadda there was Peachy for an interview.

The way I see it, is money to support three lads is tough from just one channel and Patreon. Plus, artistic constraint for 20+1? Years at GW. Would be a long overused seat not worth sitting in again.

**RustyNumber**

Bugger, the chemistry of those three lads (and the insider interviews) made that channel hands down the best gw-gaming related channel to listen to whilst painting.

**BrookM**

**Jaxmeister**

Not my thing. I've never been interesting in any of these social media creators. If I need inspiration I tend to look at books, go to shows or look here. I'm too long in the tooth in this hobby is be influenced by anything like that.
I've never understood the interest in watching things like that, the same way I don't understand people paying to watch others playing console games. If it interests me then I'll play it myself.
Grumble, grumble when I was a lad we didn't have this nonsense. If we wanted entertainment we'd play football in the street and if an opponent got hurt by a vehicle that was a bonus.

**NAVARRO**

Jaxmeister wrote:
Not my thing. I've never been interesting in any of these social media creators. If I need inspiration I tend to look at books, go to shows or look here. I'm too long in the tooth in this hobby is be influenced by anything like that.
I've never understood the interest in watching things like that, the same way I don't understand people paying to watch others playing console games. If it interests me then I'll play it myself.
Grumble, grumble when I was a lad we didn't have this nonsense. If we wanted entertainment we'd play football in the street and if an opponent got hurt by a vehicle that was a bonus.

With all due respect, If you're playing the "back in the day" card, I have to say that in therms of "passing Knowledge in art techniques" has been all about watching great painters do their thing and learn from that. Even before Internet existed. It's part of humanity since ever.

With that said Im with you about the Celebrity Hype. Its just all very silly.

**Overread**

Jaxmeister wrote:
Not my thing. I've never been interesting in any of these social media creators. If I need inspiration I tend to look at books, go to shows or look here. I'm too long in the tooth in this hobby is be influenced by anything like that.
I've never understood the interest in watching things like that, the same way I don't understand people paying to watch others playing console games. If it interests me then I'll play it myself.
Grumble, grumble when I was a lad we didn't have this nonsense. If we wanted entertainment we'd play football in the street and if an opponent got hurt by a vehicle that was a bonus.

Thing is books are great, but sometimes seeing someone do something is a huge help. Describing how to paint something is different to seeing someone do the brush strokes or how they hold a brush or how they position their hands and body and so forth. Sometimes that video can convey a complicated thing very easily through visual media instead of pages of description in a book.

Of course in-person is better still since you can ask direct questions and get feedback and so forth; but video is a great resource for a visual teaching tool.

Heck even video games can help if they are showing you a tactic of how to achieve some tricky combo or where something is hidden in the game. I also use them for seeing how the gameplay actually is as opposed to watching a review or demo video (both of which can cut parts of the gameplay to focus on others - heck a lot of game trailers just use cinematic stuff).
Though I'm with you on not really watching video games at all as a sport.

**TalonZahn**

Overread wrote:

Thing is books are great, but sometimes seeing someone do something is a huge help. Describing how to paint something is different to seeing someone do the brush strokes or how they hold a brush or how they position their hands and body and so forth. Sometimes that video can convey a complicated thing very easily through visual media instead of pages of description in a book.

Odd part about that is, they don't hold the brush, or perform painting strokes, as normal because it must be posed/changed for the camera so there are clear shots.

Most times you getting a better view means you aren't getting the actual view.

I'd make a comment about porn, but it's the same idea being applied.

**James12345**

Tim the Biovore wrote:
I'm actually very curious what this will mean for The Painting Phase. Absolutely no disrespect to Pat and Geoff, but it was Peachy who put them on the radar for most people, and it was his insight on the inner workings of GW on almost every level except the very top and the pre-existing rapport he had with most every guest that made their primary podcasting content engaging. I think they've established the brand well enough now to get by, but losing the star player right after moving to a new studio is going to hurt. The two of them alone are decent enough, but with time being a premium "decent enough" might not be enough to compete.

I'm much more confident in Peachy's success from here on out. There's never going to be another Duncan, but Sugs seems quite happy with how her solo venture has gone, and if personal satisfaction was the main consideration on his departure, then it's hard to imagine this not being better for him. Looking forward to seeing it happen.

Feel like I'm the only one who isn't a fan of Duncan, his presenting and painting style is very boring to me, and the fact he uses like 40 plus paints every video is annoying.

Shame about them splitting up, I enjoyed their podcast quite a bit. One of the few YouTube channels who seemed genuinely into the hobby, instead of just trying to milk the algorithm for as many views as possible, or secretly being a creep(midwinter minis).
The episodes without peachy have seemed very quiet. Not sure how successful they will be separately, seems pat took the brunt of the actual making of the videos, and peachy was just a painter, and they will now have to do everything independently.

It'll be interesting to see if we ever find out the reason for breaking up, by the sounds of it peachy wanted more money/control than the other two were willing to give up.

**Ghaz**

James12345 wrote:
... and the fact he uses like 40 plus paints every video is annoying.

I think you're confusing Nick for Duncan