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Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, as the saying goes. And these beholders tend to be biological creatures.

One thing that I have noticed many times over the years, has been a tendency in Fantasy to assume that Dwarves would find towering Humans and Elves to be fair and even beautiful.

This is of course a tradition with roots in Norse mythology: After all, the goddess of love and fertility, Freyja, attained her magical necklace Brisingamen by bedding the four Dwarf craftsmen Alfrigg, Berling, Dvalinn, and Grerr. In Norse mythology, Dwarves are greedy and lustful creatures.

Tolkien likewise played with this theme in an early 1920s story, when Dwarves demanded treasure and Elven maidens as payment for forging wonderful jewelry (this would later evolve into the Sack of Doriath in the Silmarillion, but the evil and lusty Dwarves with their Orcish mercenaries would not make it into later versions). Likewise, Gimli is stunned by Galadriel's beauty in the *Lord of the Rings*, to say nothing of the cinematic invention out of thin air of a Dwarven and Elven romance in the *Hobbit* movies.

You can see similar themes pop up time and again, and especially so if you look through masses of fantasy art from various settings. Especially so community art.

To me, this is a theme that ought to be consciously resisted by budding fantasy artists and writers. Just because Humans and Elves find Dwarves to be short and stunted and foul does not mean that the Dwarves would view themselves in the same way. On the contrary, one would expect Dwarves to appreciate a sturdy build with robust features, hairiness, calloused working hands, hulking muscles, reserves of body fat and an overall bodyshape that tended toward the horizontal rather than the vertical. Mountains are broad, after all. And Dwarven women would be appreciated for being extremely curvy.

With the gloriously rotund Warhammer Dwarfs this would be especially true: To a Dwarf, the perfect body shape approaches the sphere. There is beauty in roundness. Games Workshop has so far as I know played their stout Dwarf aesthetics straight through all years, although there is of course a funny 1980s miniature called Dwarf with inferiority complex on stilts. All manner of Dwarf and Squat creations have tended to be short and stout and stocky, just like their creators.

Compare this with the uneasy reaction of many on seeing the alien long and narrow forms of Tau Air Caste pilots for the first time. To a Dwarf, what appears as fair height and fine features to Humans or Elves would instead come off as longshanking and unhealthily lean, not to mention disturbingly frail.

There is little reason to think that Dwarfs would be much impressed with tall size. Likwise there is good reason to assume that most Dwarfs would not find Elves and Humans beautiful or attractive.

As such, when Dwarfs create golems, do not expect them to build their creations to human proportions, but to Dwarven proportions. Dwarven golems of most kinds would appear weirdly stocky on first glance to Human eyes, compared to lean Human statues.

These remarks on fantasy Dwarves should not be understood as a recommendation against Chaos Dwarfs displaying nubile slaves from other races as a way to flex. Even if these seeming harem slaves may not be used for unnatural pleasure in a Slaaneshi way, the implication would still be an open insult to enemies. Especially if coupled with plenty of anatomically correct bovine statuary and iconography. Think Jabba the Hutt.

Just some fantasy design thoughts I've had for many years. And as for Chaos Dwarfs this is in no way an anti-big hat argument.

Cheers

My only argument with that is the assumption that extra body fat would be seen as a positive in male Dwarves.

All other things being equal - skill, reach, experience, weight, weapon - strength is pretty important in both fighting AND in most common Dwarf occupations like mining and forging. A 150 pound dwarf with enough body fat to round off the muscles will lose to a 150 pound beefcake of otherwise equal capacity simply because he has less muscle mass and is weaker than the 'bodybuilder'.

I'd argue the epitome of dwarven MALE attractiveness would be SQUARE, not round. Short, yes, but blocky, not rotund.

YMMV, of course.

I have seen both in games and books - some Dwarfs or Dwarves depending on the universe find Elves skinny bits of nothing - others lovely.

Worth noting that Freja is an actual goddess and Galadriel not far off so they are not your average maidens.....

 Vulcan wrote:
My only argument with that is the assumption that extra body fat would be seen as a positive in male Dwarves.

All other things being equal - skill, reach, experience, weight, weapon - strength is pretty important in both fighting AND in most common Dwarf occupations like mining and forging. A 150 pound dwarf with enough body fat to round off the muscles will lose to a 150 pound beefcake of otherwise equal capacity simply because he has less muscle mass and is weaker than the 'bodybuilder'.

I'd argue the epitome of dwarven MALE attractiveness would be SQUARE, not round. Short, yes, but blocky, not rotund.

YMMV, of course.

I suspect that, much like in real life, that would be a heterosexual man's view of an attractive man. Sure, strength would be admired but it takes more than strength to win a battle. The stories of real life warriors are filled with bravery, wits, singing skills and quite a broad range of qualities held as admirable by the times. A conventionally attractive dwarf would likely be strong enough for labour and battle, wear finely made jewellry (preferably made from precious materials), nice and colourful clothes (expensive and a mark of success), have a well-cared for beard and not exhibit obvious marks of starvation or other deprivation. A bit of softness to him means he regularly eats well, after all, plus it makes him more huggable and pleasant. Season with scars and perfume to taste.

And that's just a pretty dwarf! A dwarven woman might have a particular vision of the life she wants and might greatly value the specific skills and/or temperament to help build that vision over just physical attractiveness.

From Grudgelore https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Grudgelore:_A_History_of_Grudges_and_the_Great_Realm_of_the_Dwarfs

Marriage

To even ask for a hand in marriage, a prospective groom must be able to wrap his beard around his brides waist at least once. As Dwarf women are so rare, the grooms father pays a dowry to her father - its size calculated by the nuptial scales using a formula that takes into account the weight of the bride, the wealth of her clan and that of the clan she is marrying into. A plump, healthy bride is considered most desirable - wide of girth, round of hip and heavy of bosom. Some brides spend upto a month feasting before their marriage