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Thousand Sons - Legion Demi-company, 640pts
Formation Strength: 34 Break Point: 17
Compulsory
HQ: Legion Command Squad (1), 25pts
Support: Legion Plasma Gun Support Detachment (4), 35pts
Core: Legion Tactical Detachment (6), 50pts
2 Additional Missile Support 15pts
Core: Legion Tactical Detachment (6), 50pts
2 Additional Missile Support 15pts
Optional
Transport: Legion Spartan Detachment (1), 80pts
Loadouts:
1x
Sponsons: Quad lascannons
Hull: Heavy bolter
Pintle: None
Transport: Legion Land Raider Detachment (6), 240pts
5 Additional Land Raider 200pts
Support: Legion Dreadnought Talon (6), 100pts
2 Additional Contemptor 30pts
Loadouts:
6x Arm: Twin-linked lascannons
Vanguard: Legion Outrider Squadron (4), 60pts
2 Additional Outriders 30pts


Thousand Sons - Legion Aerial Assault, 579pts
Formation Strength: 25 Break Point: 13
Compulsory
HQ: Legion Command Squad (1), 25pts
Core: Legion Tactical Detachment (4), 35pts
Core: Legion Tactical Detachment (4), 35pts
Support: Legion Assault Detachment (8), 54pts
4 Additional Assault Marines 24pts
Optional
Support: Legion Terminator Detachment (8), 80pts
4 Additional Terminators 30pts
Dedicated: Storm Eagle Dedicated Transports (2), 200pts
1 Additional Storm Eagle 100pts
Dedicated: Thunderhawk Dedicated Transports (1), 150pts


Thousand Sons - Legion Armoured Company, 810pts
Formation Strength: 15 Break Point: 8
Compulsory
Battle Tank: Legion Sicaran Squadron (4), 175pts
2 Additional Sicaran 70pts
Loadouts:
4x
Turret: Twin-linked accelerator autocannon
Sponsons: Lascannons
Battle Tank: Legion Sicaran Arcus Squadron (2), 115pts
Loadouts:
2x Sponsons: Lascannons
Heavy Armour: Legion Kratos Commander (1), 100pts
Loadouts:
1x
Turret: Kratos battlecannon
Sponson: Lascannons
Hull: Lascannons
Optional
Light Armour: Legion Sabre Squadron (4), 120pts
Loadouts:
4x
Main: Neutron blaster
hull: Heavy bolters
Heavy Armour: Legion Kratos Squadron (2), 150pts
Loadouts:
2x
Turret: Kratos battlecannon
Sponson: Lascannons
Hull: Lascannons
Choice
Heavy Armour: Legion Kratos Squadron (2), 150pts
Loadouts:
2x
Turret: Melta blastgun
Sponson: Heavy bolters
Hull: Lascannons


Knight Household Lance, 415pts
Formation Strength: 6 Break Point: 3
Compulsory
Knight: Cerastus Knight Banner (2), 415pts
1 Additional Knight 200pts
Loadouts:
2x Chassis: Knight Lancer


Legion Support, 330pts
Formation Strength: 4 Break Point: 2
Compulsory
Titan: Warhound Hunting Pack (1), 330pts
Loadouts:
1x
Arm 1: Vulcan mega-bolter
Arm 2: Plasma blastgun


Thousand Sons - Legion Sky-hunter Phalanx, 204pts
Formation Strength: 14 Break Point: 7
Compulsory
Vanguard: Legion Scimitar Jetbike Squadron (3), 35pts
Vanguard: Legion Scimitar Jetbike Squadron (3), 35pts
Vanguard: Legion Land Speeder Squadron (4), 60pts
2 Additional Land Speeder 30pts
Loadouts:
4x Weapon pair: Melta/flamer
Vanguard: Legion Javelin Squadron (4), 74pts
2 Additional Javelin 33pts
Loadouts:
4x Sponsons: Missile launcher, 2pts

Only two things that really stick out to me are these:

4 plasma gun bases will be very vulnerable on their own, they are better mixed in with tactical squads as upgrades. Unless you have a specific role for them that needs them to be separate.

Warhound Titans are also pretty vulnerable, I’ve never really had them perform for me, and every time I shoe horn one into a list it disappoints me. It really doesn’t take a lot of firepower to take one down and for less than 100 points more you can get a Reaver that has better options and survivability, or a bunch of predators or something.

Thanks for your input.
On the plasma the thought is to stick them with the command squad in the Spartan and have them catch bullets that would be going into the tac/missile units instead but mostly because I had the models...

The Warhound would not act as a distraction carnifex? You are right that its a lot of points, maybe a fighter wing would fill the points better as well as something to cap back field objectives?

 ingtaer wrote:
Thanks for your input.
On the plasma the thought is to stick them with the command squad in the Spartan and have them catch bullets that would be going into the tac/missile units instead but mostly because I had the models...

The Warhound would not act as a distraction carnifex? You are right that its a lot of points, maybe a fighter wing would fill the points better as well as something to cap back field objectives?

Truth is, if people see your tacs/missiles as the threat, they’ll happily ignore the plasma gunners and commander. Imo they’re best all lumped in together with the commander in one detachment. That way, they gain FNP from the Medicae. Things die so easily in this game that splitting troops into smaller units isn’t much of an advantage imo.

As for the Warhound, in a 3000 point game, it’s not got the staying power to be an effective distraction carnifex, it’s got two voids and four wounds. It’ll last two turns at best, and the damage output per point just isn’t enough for me. I’ve tried running them as squads of one or two, and keeping them on the flanks out of the way etc, but all that does is make them less effective by keeping them out of the main fighting. Generally in a large game your opponent will have enough nasty units to be able to deal with a warhound without really needing to compromise on any other targets.

So reworked things a bit but find myself with many points left over. Any thoughts?

TS list 2723 / 3000ptsw
Gamemode: standard
Traitor Legiones Astartes
Formations 5
Thousand Sons, Legion Demi-company, 645pts
Formation Strength: 34

Break Point: 17

compulsory

HQ: Legion Command Squad (1), 25pts

Support: Legion Missile Launcher Support Detachment (4), 40pts

Core: Legion Tactical Detachment (6), 50pts
2 Additional Missile Support 15pts

Core: Legion Tactical Detachment (6), 50pts
2 Additional Missile Support 15pts
optional

Transport: Legion Spartan Detachment (1), 80pts
x1
Sponsons: Quad lascannons
Hull: Heavy bolter
Pintle: None

Transport: Legion Land Raider Detachment (6), 240pts
5 Additional Land Raider 200pts

Support: Legion Dreadnought Talon (6), 100pts
2 Additional Contemptor 30pts
x6
Arm: Twin-linked lascannons

Vanguard: Legion Outrider Squadron (4), 60pts
2 Additional Outriders 30pts
Thousand Sons, Legion Aerial Assault, 579pts
Formation Strength: 25

Break Point: 13

compulsory

HQ: Legion Command Squad (1), 25pts

Core: Legion Tactical Detachment (4), 35pts

Core: Legion Tactical Detachment (4), 35pts

Support: Legion Assault Detachment (8), 54pts
4 Additional Assault Marines 24pts
optional

Support: Legion Terminator Detachment (8), 80pts
4 Additional Terminators 30pts

Dedicated: Storm Eagle Dedicated Transports (2), 200pts
1 Additional Storm Eagle 100pts

Dedicated: Thunderhawk Dedicated Transports (1), 150pts
Knight Household Lance, 415pts
Formation Strength: 6

Break Point: 3

compulsory

Knight: Cerastus Knight Banner (2), 415pts
1 Additional Knight 200pts
Thousand Sons, Legion Armoured Company, 880pts
Formation Strength: 17

Break Point: 9

compulsory

Battle Tank: Legion Sicaran Squadron (6), 245pts
4 Additional Sicaran 140pts
x6
Turret: Twin-linked accelerator autocannon
Sponsons: Lascannons

Battle Tank: Legion Sicaran Arcus Squadron (2), 115pts
x2
Sponsons: Lascannons

Heavy Armour: Legion Kratos Squadron (2), 150pts
x2
Turret: Kratos battlecannon
Sponson: Lascannons
Hull: Lascannons
optional

Light Armour: Legion Sabre Squadron (4), 120pts
x4
Main: Neutron blaster
hull: Heavy bolters

Heavy Armour: Legion Kratos Squadron (2), 150pts
x2
Turret: Melta blastgun
Sponson: Heavy bolters
Hull: Heavy bolters
choice

Heavy Armour: Legion Kratos Commander (1), 100pts
x1
Turret: Kratos battlecannon
Sponson: Lascannons
Hull: Lascannons
Thousand Sons, Legion Sky-hunter Phalanx, 204pts
Formation Strength: 14

Break Point: 7

compulsory

Vanguard: Legion Scimitar Jetbike Squadron (3), 35pts

Vanguard: Legion Scimitar Jetbike Squadron (3), 35pts

Vanguard: Legion Land Speeder Squadron (4), 60pts
2 Additional Land Speeder 30pts
x2
Weapon pair: Plasma/bolter
x2
Weapon pair: Melta/flamer

Vanguard: Legion Javelin Squadron (4), 74pts
2 Additional Javelin 33pts
x4
Sponsons: Missile launcher 2pts