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Hardened Veteran Guardsman




Sweden

EXAMPLE 1: An Infantry Squad has lost a few (or more) models in CC but has an attatched Commissar with a Plasma Pistol. In the next shootng phase that Commissar decides to supercharge but fails her Hazardous test, taking an early retirement. Then the following happens:
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/.../ Each time the last model in a Character unit that is attached to a Bodyguard unit is destroyed and there is not another Character unit attached, that Attached unit’s Bodyguard unit becomes a separate unit, with its original Starting Strength. /.../


Ok GW, original starting strength you say.
Starting Strength
The number of models a unit contains when it is added to your army is known as its Starting Strength [Quote taken from app]

Does this mean that the Infantry Squad suddenly resurrects its (up to 19) lost comrades?

EXAMPLE 2: More or less the same as example 1, but interesting for other reasons. A Platoon Command Squad with a body guard unit gets hit by precision fire and the Platoon Commander (character, lets say Warlord for the heck of it) bites the dust. Later in the game that bodyguard unit is destroyed leaving the PCS as a seperate unit.
/.../‘Each time the last model in a Bodyguard unit is destroyed, each Character unit that is part of that Attached unit becomes a separate unit, with its original Starting Strength. /.../
Does the Plaroon commander (character, Warlord) return?


DISCLAIMER: I'm not looking to maximize the amount of dairy products ( ) in this game, just trying my best to understand this mess. [Old man screams at cloud and misses 4th-5th]

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2024/09/08 10:25:09


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The starting strength characteristic reverts to that of the unattached leader for the purposes of rules that care about starting strength. The number of models does not change.

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Lord of the Fleet






London

No, and you know it doesn't work that way.
   
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman




Sweden

Bilge Rat wrote:The starting strength characteristic reverts to that of the unattached leader for the purposes of rules that care about starting strength. The number of models does not change.

Righto, that makes a lot more sense.

Valkyrie wrote:No, and you know it doesn't work that way.

It is not the way I would play it. But givet the general mess that is 10th I want to be able to counter any "that guy" that I meet.

7002 points. Rozth 9th/9th Siege Infantry. CO: Fältöverste Karl Hagan
4000 points. Order of the true Voice. Cult Leader: Sorcerer Ziyad Un-Nefer #AvengeProspero
Praetorian Guard/ Lascari Light Brigade: 2000 points, Huzzah!
Bretonnia: 2000 points (Forever WIP)
[Hey, you! Check out ProHammer Classic] 
   
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Lord of the Fleet






London

 Forcemajeure wrote:
Bilge Rat wrote:The starting strength characteristic reverts to that of the unattached leader for the purposes of rules that care about starting strength. The number of models does not change.

Righto, that makes a lot more sense.

Valkyrie wrote:No, and you know it doesn't work that way.

It is not the way I would play it. But givet the general mess that is 10th I want to be able to counter any "that guy" that I meet.


You counter it by laughing in his face.
   
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Pious Palatine





Tacoma, WA, USA

Rules Commentary wrote:Starting Strength: A unit’s Starting Strength is the number of models in it at the point that it is added to your army.
Starting Strength has nothing to do with current wounds or current models in a unit. It is only a number you use for reference purposes.

Additionally, the rules says the unit is with its Starting Strength rather that at its Starting Strength.
   
 
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