Let me say this in advance for those just joining this thread. These are not for sale, I will not build you one, I will not cast you one, I will not trade you a casting for a birthday present, etc...
If something is in this thread you'll have to find it. I suggest you use Ctrl+F on your keyboard.

Well I've decided I need some warhounds to escort my Warlord around the battle field, so after scanning the good old WWW i found some plans.
I decided to start with the main hull because it will be the central "hinge" to the titan. It will need to be strong to hold the arms/wings and it should be hollow to house the batteries I'm going to need to run the lights. I decided on plexiglass for the main body since I have TONS of the stuff lying around after the warlord build, and its strong enough to support the weight.
First step is to cut out four sets of the main hull.


Then cut them to the right length.


Next sand the edges to be glued.


Next glue a top, a strip, and a wall together, and let dry.


Glue 2 of the above assemblies together.


Another photo.


Next come the arm/wings, I didn't take a first step photo here so here's a WIP.


Take the top, a side wall, and a back wall and glue them together.


Repeat for the other side.


While those dried I started on the caps for the main hull.


The back end will be removable so I can swap the batteries


Thats as far as I've gotten. I'll be working on it more during the Thanksgiving break. I hope to have the 4 of them at least shaped out (no details or paint) by the 8th of December, but its beginning to like that may not happen.

You're friggin nuts. And I can't wait to see these...

Care to share where you found those Titan plans? I may have a Thanksgiving weekend project myself then.

The plans can be found here
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/bwc-archive/

Well its time for an update!

First up is the wings with their sides and backs installed


All four of them together


Front added, small front angled piece, and support attached


Another angle


The first wing attached


Another angle


One more angle


I should get a some more work done tommorrow.

It certainly looks like it is starting to come together. This thread is going to get very interesting if you keep at the frequency you are working at right now and I am looking forward to seeing the results. Are you going to be painting them as soon as they are structurally complete too?

Thanks legoburner. I wish I could keep up the frequency but finals are week after next so I've been studying a lot lately.

I do have some updates though. I didn't get a chance to take any pictures of the progress I made during thanks giving but I'll describe it to the best of my memory.
First I attached the other wing to the first titan





I also cut the other wings for the other 3 bodies.


Next I cut the shoulder and top pieces out of gator board (basically thicker foamcore). I then covered the gator board with plasticard to make it neat and uniform.
Then I started detailing.
First up was a skull from the new ruins kit:

Some small pieces from the sentinel kit:

A wall piece from the manufactorum:

A couple of doors from the russ:

And you end up with this:

Another pic:


I also started punching a few rivets for the detailing stages:


I'm going to cast the shoulders and top pieces in resin so the other 3 can be finished quickly.

Crazy in a very good way. Great

Thanks for the kind words Migsula! I love your TWAR!
I added some small details such as a strip to the front of the shoulders.


Then I skinned one of the exhaust pieces. In case you're wondering, something will go in that hole but I'm keeping it a surprise until I get to the electronics stage.


Finally I added some of the old rhino dozer blades to give it a little more detail.


Another angle:



I'll be adding some more details tonight and hopefully casting the shoulder/engine pieces as well.

Starting to get very exciting I have a bunch of those old dozer blades sitting around and have never seen them used in an interesting way until now (it was always just spiky bits on scenery) so nice idea!

scratchbuilding a warhound? wow!

now I'm motivated for my stompa

The dozer blade is a really great idea indeed. seems perfect for what you've used it for here.

That is a really impressive task you have set for yourself, and doing it really well! I cannot wait to see the end result. Any chance for a newbie like me to see your Warlord? If it is half as good as what I have seen so far....Wow. just...............wow

Thanks for the responses guys! I had tons of those dozer blades in my bits box so its about time they get put to use.

Here's some new updated shots.















I just put the parts in the silicon so hopefully I'll post again in a few days with 4 copies.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v314/Foda_Bett/Titans/warlord/

I was seriously considering buying a 'Mars' pattern Warhound for Chrissie.

You are dissuading me..........

Excellent progress Foda! When do you think you get to painting?

Keep up the good work!

akira - i've never liked the mars pattern warhounds. They were always to "flowey" for me, not like proper weapons of war.

Migsula - Painting will start when its all finished. It looks like it'll be a couple of weeks before I start the feet or head (haven't figured out which is next), since finals are next week.

The molds came out great. I'd post pictures but dakka's rules on posting molding are rather sketchy.

You crazy...

That's a MAN half a foot taller than your Titan!

And it looks like...the head swivels?

You crazy....

If the AC spins I'm gonna fall outta my chair.

You crazy...

Seriously, you made a cockpit.

You crazy...

Ok tell me, is the head that ship from the Justice League cartoon from the 80s??

CRAZEEEEEEEEEE!

Foda_Bett wrote:The molds came out great. I'd post pictures but dakka's rules on posting molding are rather sketchy.

Please feel free to post the molds and casting results, I think we would all love to see them!

Stelek - Yes the gattling blaster rotates. It actually rachets so it can only spin one way.
The head does swivel and moves in and out. The cockpit even has lights.
The head started life as one of those over sized Easter eggs.
The back opens up and it can hold 200 guardsmen, and 8 chimeras can fit in each leg.

legoburner - Thanks! I'll get some photos when I get home from work.

Well since lego gave me the go ahead here are some pics of the molds and results.

First I build a master mold by gluing the originals to a box I then poured mold material into the box and vacuumed the whole thing in a vaccume chamber:


This cured for 24 hours I then removed the originals from the new molds and poured resin in. This was then put into a pressure pot:


One of the rear should molds:


The engine and top shoulder pieces:


All the molds:


All the rear shoulder casts:


The top shoulder pieces and engine casts:


The top and rear shoulder pieces stuck together:


The workstation from hell:


Visions for the back, between the shoulder furnaces and below the engine:



This may be the last update for a week or so as I've got finals next week.

By the Emperor's personal tech support hotline! What does this equipment cost?

Wow, I was expecting some lego brick moulds... you are hardcore!! I think the thing that makes resin pictures so attractive is that the colour and the moulding makes me assume I am looking at white chocolate

mmmm... white chocolate titans

So I guess you made the molds because you're making a few titans.. is the time it takes to make the molds worth it, like would it have been easier to just build it all normal?

Can you sell those casted pieces , or would GW send the inquisition to kill you?

Necros wrote:Can you sell those casted pieces , or would GW send the inquisition to kill you?

I think that would push it out of the grey fair use territory and clearly into intellectual property abuse so probably best it is not done!

Awsome!

Keeping an eye on this.

That all looks so fantastic. I am just uhhhhh, just stunned. I can't wait to see the next update.

Pics of the Battle where they all take part will be keenly anticipated.........With a Warlord as well.

Well on Sunday I was studying but one of my co-workers came over and gave me a hand.
I took a couple of breaks to get som WIP shots for y'all.

First he put some strengthing ribs in the wings:


He then cut some tin to be used for weapons mounts:


The slip neatly in the ribs:


These pieces of tin were then glued in, and then more ribs were added on top of them, this way the guns can be magnatized and moved:


Here's a picture of a new mold inside the pressure pot:


The new back plate after demolding:


Necros - I don't intend to sell these pieces as I like the GW legal team not pointed in my direction.

Symbio Joe - The pressure pot has 3 $75 attachments on it, and it costs $80. The vaccume machine was $180, the glass jar was from big lots for $10, the table was scratch built so roughly $25 there. The resin is $90 for a gallon of parts A and B. The silicone is $90 for 1 gallon of it, and 1 quart of the hardener.

Thanks for the info. I may start with the glas jar.

That is amazing work.

And just to chim ein... Selling those would be a bad idea. That would certainly violate GW's IP. I would never recommend someone contact via PM. No, I would never do that. I would never mention anything about price and shipping in such a fictitious PM. Nope, i'd never do that. No way, no how.

For real, that is some great work. Inspirational.

ender502

Symbio - make sure there are no air bubbles in the jar or you'll end up with glass everywhere! It took about 30 minutes of searching to find the best one.

Ender - thanks for the suggestion. The only person who's getting a cast of these is my co-worker. He is actually footing 1/4 the bill for the warhounds, of course he's getting the 4th hound.

Foda_Bett wrote:

WTF?

That looks nothing like a titan!



Seriously looking good, but I would be careful about casting GW bitz, even for home use. You're certainly talented enough to use scrape computer parts, plumbing supplies and the like rather than GW skulls and industrial terrain.

Can you please list the specific type of resin that you are using? (Maybe even a link?)

I've been using Micro Mark CR-600 but want to find something a little more like what you've got there. Like the color and finish of it.

Great work so far- looking forward to seeing the entire group when complete!

Foda, after watching yall complete the first Titan, all those years ago, I cant believe yall are doing another one, even if it is smaller. lol This is def one of those things youll have to show me when I get back to the states. lol and that pic from GT Dallas...what year was that? lol I still have that ARMY shirt as well, lol. That Titan blew people away then, and it still does now. Its crazy how good this one is coming out, not in a bad way of coarse, but how you got to mold all those pieces. I remember when some molds back in the day had flaws and it took several tries just to get a good one!

LittleLeadMen - I'll get some contact info on my next update.

Redmond - Its good to see you posting again. Keep your head down while you're over there! When you get back we'll have to build some thunderhawks.

Time for the update!

As you know i want the guns to rotate, so to make them removeable as well I started with a magnet holder



Closed



and attached




I then started on the weapon mounts here's the first version


Here you can see the magnet holder a little better


Then it was mold time


The first pulls


Test rotation


Not attached to the wing


Well after some tests I found out that the two 8lb magnets were not enough.

So it was time to go magnet shopping. I found a magnet shop in Plano, Texas and got some 33lb magnets!
Only downside is they're thicker than the previous magnets.
So it was time to rebuild the magnet holder.



Well I'm going to go make the most of my day off!

Do you have a cap or anything to cover the head of the fastener, something appropriately AM brand? It all looks good so far.

Yeah, its good to be posting again! Its good to see that your building some (not so) "little" titans for the big guy to play with, lol I know Albion was getting lonely. But how long do you think itll take to finish the titan? I know your building 4, so the other 3 shouldnt take long since youll know how to put it all together...

The cap buts up against the wing so there's really none of it you'll ever see.
My folks brought home some cool boxes I can use for the basis of the guns.

All 4 are being built at the same time. One is a little more ahead than the others but they all end up catching up before I move onto the next step.

Oh ok, thats good to hear. I just cant wait to see these mofos fully built and painted! Are you going to put more color into it, than Albion, or is it going to be basically gray?

Well 9 days without an update, I'll bet y'all thought I was taking the holiday off.
I've been working on the first weapon, the turbo laser destructor.

First start off with 4 plumbing parts, 2 lamp parts, a "project box" from radioshack, a hex bolt, a nut, the 33 lbs magnet from earlier, as well as the casts of the weapon mounts:


Another pic:


I took a cutting from the manufactorium building and a miscast from the engine compartment and made a bottom for the gun:

This will get its own mold later

Add in a havoc launcher, a couple of grab handles, a few more COD parts, a bunch of stuff from the old Imperial accessory sprue:


Underside:


Back:


Right side:


Overhead view:


Front view:


Left view:


Attached to the wing Left view:


Attached rear view:


Attach full left view:


Pivoting down:


Pivoting up:

OMG. It's....It's...amazing.!! No surprises there. It's like a kids craftshow. Here we have a straw, a piece of paper and voila.
Just a trillion times more awesome.

You're in for $800 in production equipment and materials?

You better make a few more to drive your average cost below what you would have paid Forgeworld!

What silicon and resin are you using to make the casts? Or where do you get it from?

That is great work. Can't wait to see the end result!

Toreador - I just found the website again (I usually call in my orders).
http://www.jgreer.com/index.htm
I usually get the AeroMarine Casting Resin, and QM 128 Pourable, one gallon kit (10:1 Silicone)
If you order from him tell him Dave Christensen from The Colony sent you We've been doing business for a few years now and John's a swell guy.

JohnHwangDD- I've had the set up for about 3 years. I started making molds about 10 years ago. I just never posted my molds much because most forums have anti-molding rules.

snorkle - yeah its fun to see different WIP threads that start out w/ the first step "Gather materials."
I've found it also makes the job less daunting when you know where to start.

Your project makes me smile, but mabye not for the same reason as all the others. I do apreciate all the intricate detail in your works, but I think the best part is nothing is going to waste. What I mean by that is I have an obsessive bits box, I even save sprue bits, you never know when you will start a conversion and go wow that is perfect for it. With all your bits, not only are they being used in creative and beautiful ways, your getting more than one unique use out of them. By making the molds, you are going a long way on a lot fewer parts, meaning your not stuck missing that rare 2nd ed dreadnaught pack you just used on your last project your out of. And hey! When your all done you will actually have 5, the 4 moulded and the original plastic bit one.

Anyway just wanted to say its great to see multiple uses out of rare parts.

Just inspirational work again!

Thank you so much for the link to your casting resin. I'm looking forward to using it on my project!

The titans are looking great! The weapon systems, in particular, are very cool. It's going to be amazing to see all four of them at the same time.

Amazing turbo laser, and a very inspiring project

- Salvage

WOW! I am very impressed by this project, it would be amazing if you were only building one, but building 4 ???! The simple fact your using moulds to duplicate parts is great, I also have to mention that these types of threads usually produce a titan/model that is nice, but pales in comparison to the GW or FW originals for detail and quality,Yours on the other hand is brimming with detail and the quality of your work is on par with FW.
I cant wait to see more !

Can't wait for the next update

I don't think I can add anything to everyone elses comments other than keep it coming.

Great stuff.

lol Honestly Foda, anything that comes out of that model room is freakin sweet. A box of toothpicks could have gone in there and an army of Chaos would come out. Im tellin ya man, not any other titan Iv seen, that was done by a single individual is on par with this. So yeah...fruckin awesome

Orock - Thanks, I have a steel legion army so I've got a boat load of the old Imperial Accessory sprue.
I've got a cabinet of bits for easy converting, and a box full of tank bits I've been going into for this project.

migsula - Thanks, coming from you that's a heck of a compliment!

LittleLeadMen - Thanks, I hope Mr. Greer's resin can help you. Its great stuff.

Boss_Salvage - Thanks, I'm working on the vulcan mega bolter and a plasma cannon.

kitsandbits - Thanks, the one that separates mine from forgeworld is the fact that I care about what my product looks like. The majority of forgeworld stuff I've seen (and I own a good bit myself) is rather poor quality.

Phoenix - Thanks, there may be one in the morning before I go to work, or in a few hours.

Brother Bartius - Thanks, y'alls comments keep me going. This project is a royal pain sometimes.

Redmond - Thanks, did you see my other P&M thread for my blood angels? I'm afraid its probably dropped of the 1st or 2nd page but its got some cool pictures of my new OTT army. Here's a trip down memory lane for you.
A pic of you, Joel, and myself at the 1st Dallas GT.

lol I saw this pic on the "recently uploaded pictures" spot on the main page, and I was like "Oh man..." lol. That was such a long time ago!! I wanna say that I still have that shirt in my drawer back home, couldnt give it up. And its also wierd to see me with glasses and without tattoos. Ill try and check out your BA thread right now... real quick, are you ever going to use these models in big games?

Well I guess its time for another update.
Now I know the best weapon for the hounds to have is all turbo lasers but the other guns just look so cool.

So I started building a vulcan mega bolter:


Barrels attached:


Left side view:


Front view:


I was cleaning up my game room and I found some cool light up sticks, and i think they'll make a sweet plasma blast gun:


Here's the light section:


As you can see there are 3 different LEDs red, green, and blue:


When these lights flash they'll give you epileptic seizures :


And here's the new battery holder:

You are some kind of sorceror...with your magic and whimsy

Well, that bolter is starting to come out pretty sweet...you gonna add on some cool bits?

Redmond - of course it'll be bits'ed up. Nothing stays flat.
Papavich96 - Thanks! Although my sorcerers ability stops at conversions, I wish it applied to Calculus II.

Well while I was at work today my father wired up the plasma guns, and he was nice enough to Ttake some WIP pictures.

First he glued some plex onto the front of the box and drilled holes in it for mounts:


Next he mounted the weapons:


Then he wired up the battery holder to the weapon:


Next was some foam to hold the batteries in:


Test shot:


The middle light blinks slower than the outer lights ( which blink crazy fast):


I may have some more updates tomorrow.

BLinKing LiGhts On an ImPerial TiTan ?

MaDnESS !!!

Surely, this must be Sparta

Well Foda, I cant wait to see this plasma gun gets some bits on it, and then see the titan come to life in the end!!

adamsouza - Indeed, I think it makes for a pretty cool gun.
Redmond - Thanks, it'll be a while though.

Well every good gattling gun needs to spin, and titan sized ones are no exception.
Yesterday my dad picked this up from the FLGS:


After some playing around we decided it needed a pulley to work both the guns at once so off to the lathe we went:


After a while we had this little gizmo:


Combine that with a rubber band and you get:


Another view:


1 more:


With the cap and arm mount:


Just push the button:


and the gun spins into action:

Ha! Take that, Forgeworld!

my jaw fell upon the ground when I saw this

Outstanding.

I'd put this blog up there with the Ork Stompa thread.

JohnHwangDD wrote:You're in for $800 in production equipment and materials?

You better make a few more to drive your average cost below what you would have paid Forgeworld!

He's doing so much more with this than what he would have gotten from paying Forgeworld.

malfred wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:You're in for $800 in production equipment and materials?

You better make a few more to drive your average cost below what you would have paid Forgeworld!

He's doing so much more with this than what he would have gotten from paying Forgeworld.

And he won't have to soak them in boiling hot water to get the @#$%*& legs straight!

lol dang dude, is there going to be a flashy light to simulate the blast from the rounds coming out? And how fast does that mofo spin?

Okay, when you add the remote control?

Just push the button:

AHHHHHHHHH!!

Wow, now that's ROF death!

So what is the armament across the hounds? 4x turbo lasers, 2x megabolters, 1x plasma blastgun, 1x (working) flamethrower??

- Salvage

See, it's crap like this that makes me want to get a remote control quadroped robot and mod it to be a hulking death machine that fires airsoft rounds...

Well, when my wife divorces me for chasing rabbits in the back yard with a two grand robot, I am blaming you in the hearing!

That's just too cool man

malfred, Papavich96, and Brother Bartius - Thanks for the kind words

syr8766 - No I think mine will be pose able though.

Redmond - No flashing light, we tried it but it ends up not looking right, and draws to much current.

Symbio Joe - No remote control. But I do have a remote and some servos for another project in the future.

Boss_Salvage - Thats the plan for now, of course the flame thrower woun't work.

Wehrkind - I've thought about buying the halo clix scarab and turning into a Tau titan.

Well its time for another update.
First up my dad scanned the old eagle he carved and shrunk it down, printed it off, stuck it to some plasticard and carved a new one:


Here's the mold ready for pouring (we decided to cast up an old bulldog buckle ultramarines ear ring as well):


Here's our original huge mechanicus symbol. The original mold was done without pressure so it was time for an update:


Here's the mold:


And the outcome:


Well we bits-uped the mega bolter. The top is removable in case the motor goes out:


The bottom battery door is removable as well:


Left rear view:


Front left:


Left rear close up:


Right side:


Front:


front right:


Front left:


Top:


Bottom right:


Bottom left:


Bottom rear:


Bottom top:


Attached to the body:


Body rear view:


I've started work on the other other turbo laster so I'll have pics later.

I think I look forward to the casting pics as much as the (incredibly in depth) shots of the finished pieces ... it's like magic

The weapon is beautifully solid, and I love the detailing around the Big Red Button

- Salvage

Looks great. The one critique I have is on the barrels of the Vulcan, they are way too thin walled. You should have at least two more layers of smaller tubing in them to make them look suitably armored and to bring the bore down to some thing remotely resembling a Str 6 weapon.

Other than that, outstanding work. BTW, how tall is this looking to end up? It appears to be slightly larger than the FW one.

Boss_Salvage - Thanks. I don't know what color the big red button will be yet but right now its cool.

Arstahd - Wow! You are amazing!!! I didn't think anyone would be able to tell a size relationship via one picture with a dime in it!
I'm not sure how tall its going to be right now, but if you look at the plans I linked to (and I'm "roughly" using) the author said its the same height as the FW one.

At first I was worried about the extra barrel thickness being too heavy for the little AAA batteries, but I'm curious to see what y'all think.

Foda_Bett wrote:Arstahd - Wow! You are amazing!!!

I'm glad that you noticed

I didn't think anyone would be able to tell a size relationship via one picture with a dime in it!
I'm not sure how tall its going to be right now, but if you look at the plans I linked to (and I'm "roughly" using) the author said its the same height as the FW one.

I'm currently building a warhound myself, so I'm getting an idea for one's size. To my knowledge, the FW one is 10.5" tall so that's what I'm aiming for myself. From your pics I'm getting the feeling that yours will be slightly larger, but it's just a guess, that's why I was asking.


As for the barrels, do you have a second tube to go in the one you just inserted? I think it will look best if you make two outer layers flush and have a third center layer protrude a bit. IMO it will give it a very solid look.

If you are concerned about the extra weight overtaxing your motor, I wouldn't worry. Besides, you don't need to run the full length of the barrels. Keep the inserts under an inch long, no one can see that far into the barrels anyway.

Arstahd - Where is yours posted? We could use the tips.

As far as the barrel thickness. We would do it all the way down, or not at all. Just because that's the way barrels work... I do like the look of the extra thickness (1) but I'll have to add them all and try it, before gluing them permanently in. I don't want to go to any smaller bore, though, because we are shooting bullets, not bb's, and I want it to look badass.

Foda_Bett wrote:Arstahd - Where is yours posted? We could use the tips.

As far as the barrel thickness. We would do it all the way down, or not at all. Just because that's the way barrels work... I do like the look of the extra thickness (1) but I'll have to add them all and try it, before gluing them permanently in. I don't want to go to any smaller bore, though, because we are shooting bullets, not bb's, and I want it to look badass.

I don't have any pics posted yet as I'm not terribly far along yet. I'm working from the ground up and am on my second leg now. I'm going with an old school look and am basing it off of the original epic scale model. If I get finished with what I'm working on I'll probably post something later tonight.

I can understand the all or nothing bit for the barrel inserts, but it is shooting tiny rounds (for a titan) so I don't think that the smaller bore is out of place. The Vulcan should look more like a bunch of autocannons strapped together than a bundle of battle cannons. Of course it's your call, but I would like to see how it looks with the additional insert in place. I think it will still look plenty badass and it doesn't take much to try it out.

lol well Foda, it seems the titan is taking shape...and now that you have the weapons completed (I think) Its time to make that body!! lol Or whatever, Im just excited to see this thing take shape...

Spinning mega bolter, light up plasma, and detachable arms. Dude, what's next, sound effects?

walking legs WALKING LEGS!

this is some seriosly cool stuff your doin.

Looks great man!

I wasn't talking about just any robot though. I was thinking of getting one of those WowWee quadroped robots that will walk after things of it's own volition, then modding up a semi-auto airsoft gun with a simple servo to fire it. Strap on a laser pointer for a sight, and try to peg the bloody rabbits that keep eating our plants. Unfortunately, I am not convinced of the robot's ability to walk in my yard. Perhaps an RC tank or something...

Back on topic, are you going to use a clear resin casting for the plasma coils, with some blue dye mixed in? I am really curious about how you are going to work that. It certainly will look cool.

Pheonix - Maybe
studderingdave - not walking but pose-able. It'll be posed so its walking I guess.

Wehrkind - I saw one of those robots at radioshack the other day. I think it'd make a cool conversion. I thought about applying a skin to the "robo raptor" and use it as a biotitan but thats alot of work.
The only plasma gun planned right now is the "ray gun" looking weapon. Its had some pieces added to the tubes I'll see if I can get a shot in by tomorrow night.

Well its been a while as we've been building the other 2 turbo lasers but I went ahead and added the extra barrels to the bolter.
Close up:


The entire barrel:


View from above:


Spinning:

Foda_Bett wrote:
Spinning:

Love is a house-sized gun with a drunken rate of fire. Props to you sir.

- Salvage

Cool. You could use it like a blender.

Well I've been working on the plasma gun.

Detailing the top:


Back:


Side:


Front:


Bottom:


Attached to the body:



And on:

I hope you don't tired of us kissing your ass, becuase these are freakin amazing.

I agree Adamsouza!!!

I will give you my 1st born child for those Titans.
And my second, If you make me a Warlord.
My third, just because I wouldn't want to break up the set.

If FW or Lucasarts doesn't offer you a job-they are nuts.

EXALT!!

why Lucasarts???

since you obvoiusly have enough a## kissing I'll try a more constructive approach: have you tired how the Plasma Gun looks with only one color. only blue or maybe some orange?

I like it, but it doesn't scream plasma at me. Is it finished like that or are you adding casing around it?

Anung Un Rama wrote:since you obvoiusly have enough a## kissing I'll try a more constructive approach: have you tired how the Plasma Gun looks with only one color. only blue or maybe some orange?

I was under the impression the rods were from some pre-made decorative thing, hence the range of color? But that clearly doesn't mean Foda can't re-engineer the lights to all glow a beautiful and totally lethal shade of lightning blue (or scorpion green if you're like me ) ...

The gun looks fantastic, but I do agree all one color would be all the sweeter.

- Salvage

adamsouza - LOL, thanks.

akira5665 - LOL, I don't think I can support children on the wages my FLGS pays. I've never wanted a job from GW or FW. If you're forced to build models it kind of takes the fun out of it.

Anung Un Rama - I think he ment Lucasfilm or ILM. No the plasma gun isn't going to be just 1 color. I think its pretty cool with the strobing effect. I'll get a video uploaded tonight so y'all can see it in action.

snorkle - Its so cool the bolter actually sounds like a minigun revving up. The plasma is done except for paint and purity seals.

Boss_Salvage - I've burned throught about 6 AA batteries just revving the gun up and imagining it spraying infantry. The rods are from a little light stick thing. I think they were originally made for ravers, I picked them up a wholesale place for like $2 for the lot of 'em. The 2 on the ends glow the same color (and blink REALLY fast) the middle changes color as well but its alot slower so its kind of "trippy".

Nice I wish I could hear it.

WWWHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZ

It sounds something like that

OK, I'm attaching a movie of the plasma gun in action as well as the bolter spinning up.

You can also view the videos here:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v314/Foda_Bett/40k/Super%20Heavies/Warhounds/WIP/Arms/?start=all

I soooooooo want to add a motorized Vulcan mega bolter to my Warlord Titan now !!

CURSE YOU !!!

Ummmmm.....

I don't like the plasma arm. It obviously represents a lot of great work (way beyond my ability) but is not to my taste. I like the more classic GW look for plasma weaponry.

ender502

Adamsouza - LOL, they're not hard to build. You may even be able to find a toy with motorized parts to make the job that much easier.

ender502 - Thanks for the compliment. I have nothing against the plasma weaponry of GW other than the fact that a plasma pistol looks the same as a titan sized plasma gun.
The "ray gun" was built as more of a "ray gun" than a plasma gun. I will use it in games as a plasma gun though.

I didn't think this could get any better.

You continue to surprize me with your skills.

Are you gonna show them painted in the end?

I'm going to have to make a trip some time your way to see these bad boys once they're built.

That vulcan is way too cool.

and here i am having a pain in the but time revamping my Tank Bustas..

Good work man, I feel for the guy who faces them bad boys

Well I realize its been a while but its hard to get my co-worker to come over (amazing how its hard to get someone to build a free titan).
Well this weekend I decided I was tired of waiting for him so I started on another "custom" gun.

Since I work retail I've got TONS of the recipt paper spools, so I glued 2 of those together, and glued a pair of those together:


Cap that with an old chimera hatch and you've got a rear end of a gun:


Another view:


Add on the weapon mounts some barrels:


More pics:



More details:







Finished:









And attached to the body:




Retractable barrels in action:




Close ups:

As soon as I saw the update I had to jump on-"Trippy" quoteworthy!! I enjoyed seeing them in action 4 sure. The new guns are excellent. I particularly thought the use of 'bits' to embellish/detail is just great.

I want to see one built/painted.!!!Please!

Yeap im with akira5665.

Great job, I'd hate to be faceing off against 4 freaking Warhounds.

Keep em' comming, and maybe if your friend to comeover and he'll get one of the war hounds, then maybe He'll help out more

That reminds me i need to finish putting together my Tank Huntas

It looks freakin awesome as usual!
But what gun is it?

Retractable barrels are for ease of transport? Or because you could?

Another sweet looking gun, though curious myself which gun it is ...

- Salvage

akira5665 - Thanks for the compliment! They'll be painted soon I've only got a few more guns to build before I start on the legs or head.

drunkorc - How's your casting coming? In the last mega game I ran I faced off against a great gargant, a stompa, 2 warhounds, and 3 baneblades.
I figured that the warlord needed a bit of help against all the other super heavy scratch builds in my area. And these fit on the table alot better.

Boss_Salvage - The barrels are retractable because it was almost tea easy not to. While building them I they kept falling in and out of the receipt paper rolls, and I noticed they looked cool extend and contracted,
so I added another tube in there and vwalla.
The gun will count as another turbo laster destructor, since its the best gun the warhounds can have (without a doubt) the more the marryier.

Please post pics of that game. If you have any. It sounds super awesome.

The pressure pot you use, it it the cooking type or something specifically designed for casting?

Aquila

Props on the skills man. Those guns look great, I wish I could get that creative. I wanna try and construct a warhound at some point but I'm stuck on how to build the body and this helps me with some ideas.

-GWP

The retractable gun, what is it?

I cant tell if its an Inferno cannon or a turbolaser.

Snorkle - Here's some pics from the game.
http://com5.runboard.com/bhtusaplano.f2.t459

Aquila - its a pressure pot used for painting. The only important thing is make sure it seals.

Pinto - Thanks! I'm glad this thread is helping, please post some pictures of your warhound!

Orlanth - It will be a turbolaser. I'm going to be building an inferno cannon later, I'm just pricing some neat attachments.

Looks like an awesome battle. All the minis look great, especially that Warlord. The railing on the platforms for the soldiers is a great touch. Though it looks a little big, even for a Warlord. It's at least 5'6" right?

This project is incredible. I can't wait to see your completed Demi-Legio in action!

snorkle - The warlord is 5' 1/4" it is to scale with Dan Abnett's "Titan: Godmachine" comic book.

Vandez - Thanks! The guys at my FLGS do not share your feelings though
Every time I bring in progress to show them they "Ooh" and "Ahh" until they realize they'll be facing them someday.

Foda_Bett wrote:

Aquila - its a pressure pot used for painting. The only important thing is make sure it seals.

So it serves as a vacuum chamber of some sort or am I completely muddled? A casting tute would be fantastic!

Aquila

Ok, now you have to work it out so that the extension / retraction of the barrels is automated and acompanied by sound effects.

Aquila - The pressure pot is for forcing the resin in the mold, the vacume chamber is used for the molds.

Pheonix - Well I blame this next gun on you then

This week I've been studying and doing homework and my dad surprised me with this beauty of a gun.

He started with our old friend:


He built it up and added some oblong pieces to the shaft (can you guess what it is yet?):


Mounted inside the project box:


Attach the batteries:


Glue on the receipt holders:


Add a button:


Then attach some rubberbands to the barrels:


Notice the position of the shapes changed so it'll push out the barrels:


Over head view:


And finally a video:


Link to video for those who want it:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v314/Foda_Bett/40k/Super%20Heavies/Warhounds/WIP/Arms/?action=view¤t=MVC-693W.mp4

First Off, that is unbelievabley freakin cool.

Secondly, thank you for sharing the inner workings in detail.

Third, do you know off the top of your head about how much those Tamayi gearbox kits cost, and where I can get some ?

Motors are easy to get, but the gears are tougher.

Adamsouza - Thanks, my dad's been keeping tabs on this thread and he's been enjoying all the inspirational comments.
The Tamiya gear box is $8.75 it is part number TAM70103.
Most well stocked hobby stores have them (or can order them). I got mine from Hobby Town USA.

No Problem at all. All praise in this thread is warrented.

Thank you for the information about the gear box. There isn't a decent hobby shop within an hours drive of hear, but I'm sure I can track one down online, now that I have the part number.

That new gun was a brilliant idea. Every time I think your titan has reached a pinnacle of modeling quality it surpasses it. I really cant wait to see a finished warhound now

Ahhhahahaha great video, I was hoping that was where the gun was going! Props to your dad, that's some very cool dakka

- Salvage

This just keeps getting more and more awesome. I'm envious of your skills, I wants me a titan!

...

Well, Gargant, but it's all good.

adamsouza - I hope the motor will work on your warlord, motorized guns just add a deffinate "WOW" factor to an already sweet model.

legoburner - Thanks, I've got to finish the 2 turbo-lasers, build another turbo laser, and build 1 more "special" gun. I'm thinking an inferno cannon w/ working smoke, but finding cheap smoke makers is proving difficult. I've also got a bunch of left over swappable GI Joe guns from another project I wonder how a modular light up gun would look.

Boss_Salvage - I'm glad you liked it. It'll be really cool, when they're all finished, to have 1 titan with both moving guns blasting away.

Vandez - Gargants are just begging for some cool motors and stuff. With all that extra area inside the gut you could put tons of neat details into it!

Well my dad's been working on the gun some more.


The inside of the cover


More interior pics:



Attaching the cover:



The battery cover removed:


Cover


Attaching the cover:


The bottom:



The side:



The top:


The front:




Attached to the body:




And all of the guns so far (minus the 2 WIP turbo lasers)

That shot of the guns next to each other may be the coolest thing that I have ever seen in a 40K modeling forum.

Yours are going to be the ubertitans. Brilliant work.

On a tangential note, have you got names for these labors of love yet?

This is quite probably the coolest and most inspirational modeling forums post i have ever witnessed!

My god!

Whats the price on one of thouses thing lol - seriously what is it costing you to build it and how much do you think your gonna spend, i proly aint the only one to buy one if you go into bussness makeing and selling these, i know you carnt becuase you dont want games work shop legal team after you but still if i could i would buy one!

This is the best moderling / conversion, or anything 40k realted i have seen yet! i gonna keep an eye on any more scatch bulds you do they be ace even if you buld them blind folded!

congradulation on this already monumentous achevment

Tharamanthar

This truly is awesome. I'll be following along on your progress.

"Oi! Doz oomies kan sure buildz da biggest Dakkas! Dat gonna makes 'em all da betta fer da lootin! "


Absolutely amazing! What a great display of craftsmanship here. Thank you for sharing such an in-depth progress of this soon to be masterpiece.

Waaaaaghh!!!


That thing is screaming for fiber optic lights!!!!


Great Job on those guns!

Savnock - Thanks! I haven't thought up names for them though. I rreally wait till they're done to name them.

Divine_Tyranny - Thanks!

Tharamanthar - They're not for sale. I've got a couple of hundred dollars in resin so far, as well as about $60 in plastistruct, $12 in motors, most of the plex is scraps from the warlord, and the bits are all left over from my armies so not to much. The resin is being used for other stuff as well so this isn't its only use.

HungryTaz - Thanks!

War Grot - Thanks, I'm glad you like the thread!

Grot 6 - Thanks! I think the cockpit will have some small lights but doing 4 sets of fiber optics will be a bit much
There will be plenty of other lights on these beasties.

I knwo their not for sale and i can understand why, i was just saying if they was not this complecation stopping you froms selling them you could make a lot of moeny from them, i can only imagen what models you will be showing us in the future, i sense some possible awards as well if you stick to modeling and conversions

geez, i wish I had this type of fabricating power at my place.

selling the pieces obviously violates the copyright, but what about selling the molds, or comissioning someone to make a mold for you?

Even if he was willing to sell his molds, which I trust he isn't, he's scratch built 75% of the model and only cast a small percentage of it.

The joints and armor details are nice, but they don't make a titan by themselves.

obviously, but i was wondering on a larger scale, not just with the warhound, although he has done alot of work, im sure that there might be people who would want molds done up like his, and dont have 300 dollars to spend on equipment.

About the only thing I could possibly sell was a mold of the magnet holders or the stuff I hand carved based on GWs stuff.
The biggest problem is I'd run into the same thing Dreamforge did.
Its basically a replacement for something GW offers, and/or based on their IP, and they'd shut me down when I listed the first one for sale.
In the case of dreamforge they didn't even make enough to satisfy all their pre-orders.
So although I'd love to see a world filled with warhounds and make a little $ myself its not worth the hassle.
You can how ever make your own based on the plans.

You have really out done yourself, wow.

tylermenz wrote:obviously, but i was wondering on a larger scale, not just with the warhound, although he has done alot of work, im sure that there might be people who would want molds done up like his, and dont have 300 dollars to spend on equipment.

I've done alot of casting myself. Molds for something 28mm usually cost $20-$50. Something Titan scale, especially custom, would likely cost $300+ to have made for you.

Not only is the mold material expensive, it's alot of skilled labor involved.

Just so you understand what I'm saying, it costs MORE to make a good mold than it does to buy the original model.

what is that giant double cannon in the middle?

let me rephrase that: i don't care how it's called, but what does it do?

Yeah, so give us a recap...I get that first and fourth ones are pom-pom guns like the on the Millennium Falcon. And I imagine the vulcan gun rotates. Do the other two light up?

Death by Monkeys - The one with the clear barrels lights up (there's even a video a couple of pages back), and the other is the turbo laser destructor.

Anung - It doesn't have any cool things because I'm building 4 of them (1 for each titan) and they needed to be reproduced quickly.

adam - You're very right, and all of my molds so far have been 1 part (1 side is flat) which makes them less labor intensive but doesn't make them that much cheaper.
I show off my molds and people go "Well why don't you just cast up a space marine army." Its not that simple I try to stick to single part molds because they last ALOT longer than 2 parts, and often times the resin ends up being more expensive than GWs high prices.

you should have sound somewhere on that thing. for the vulcan bolter and such.

In the video clips you can hear that the Vulcan Megabolter makes a satisfying WWWhhhhhhrrrrr

That alone convinced me I need to make one

Drill a hole behind one of the barrell paths and stick a thin strip of plasticard or cardstock through there and you can get that ratatatatata noise going if there's enough clearence between the barrells and the arm

I'm loving this thread.

It's the first place on Dakka that I check for progress.

Keep it up m8. Awsome work and I mean it in the true sense of the word.

I just hope your going to show us your babies all painted up. A family photo before one goes would be just too much.

Well after a little over a month I finally got my coworker over to work on the warhounds. We finished up our guns while my father surprised us with a new special gun.

First the photos
Left:


Rear:


Right:


Front:


Difusor removed:


Bottom:


Attached to body 1:


Attached to body 2:


Attached to body 3:


OOH it can bend:


All the way down:


And it expands:


Now I'm sure some of you figured out that it was a camera flash. We had a camera flash in the volcano cannon on the warlord but this one functions differently.
If you happen to be shot by this particular gun you'll see the for the next 20 minutes as its burned into your eyes.
It's cool to think about the warhound coming up and destroying a huge chaos installation and replacing it with the "holy stamp" of terra.

Boogs - The sound that the bolter makes right now is perfect IMHO. I think the the a little piece of plasticard would take away from the originality of the sound, and make it sound more like a kid's bicycle.

Brother Bartius - Thanks for the kind words. There will definitely be a nice collection of family photos as well as some pictures of them tearing up some heretics.

I always keep my eyes peeled for your updates Foda. You rock.


I want to see one fully painted!!

WAAAAAAGH!

I was going to say this is taking a long time, but then again, its freakin' 4!!!! and you save over $800.00

Really starting to build a Gargant.

Good Job mate!

akira5665 - Thanks, the waist will be started on Sunday. My coworker and I will put the finishing touches on the final 2 guns then its time to build the waist.

drunkorc - Thanks. I don't want ot start rushing myself, if I do they'll turn out horrible.

Wow, the sound on the extension / retraction is perfect. Couldn't ask for anything more.

I called the camara flash on that new gun about 10 sec before I read it. I love the idea. Now lets just see how your opponents react

Burning the aquila into the retinas of heretics is the new black. I love it.

Savnock wrote:Burning the aquila into the retinas of heretics is the new black. I love it.

Sigged for ultimate coolness.

ender502

I'm needing my fix on this project!

Too long for an update.

What's happening?

Well its funny you ask, last night we were finally able to put some more work into the titan.
After looking at the plans we determined that the 3 leg sections are alsmot the same size
So we came up with the following











Hopefully when this is resined they will fit together and allow the legs to be pose able. That is the hope anyway.
After we confirm the parts fit together as planned, we'll make 3 different molds of this part, 1 for the upper leg, 1 for the middle leg, and finally 1 for the lower leg.
Each mold will have different mounting parts and details on it so all 4 titans will have the same basic shape and armor for their legs.

I'm not sure if I will build a Warhound... Because it won't be as good as yours...

Thanks Azmodai! You'd be surprised if you just take your time, and plan things out you'll wind up doing alot better than you originally thought you did.

The leg piece didn't work quite as planned so there was much nashing of teeth and cutting the channels so it could become more posable. I'm making another mold right now of some of the accessories to put on the leg, including a ring with rivits that will go around the bolt holes.

I'll have some more pics tomorrow night.

Really I'm gonna build it, but currently I'm waiting for some plasticard me and Red Skullz ordrered.
I'm gonna build a Warhound, and Red Skullz will make a Stompa, for som serious Apocalypse action...

Tested the template I've got with some paper card:

Looking good so far azmodai!
I've never started with the feet of a titan, it just seems that as you build your titan its going to get heavier, and the best way to cope with that is to weigh the feet down (or widen them) so I always build the feet close to the end.

Thanks for the update Foda.

Looking forward to the next one.

I love the flash idea.

You can tell your opponent to call your army "cheese", and when he does, tell him "Those are the magic words! You asked for it!" and then blind the poor fool with the Aquila of the golden throne.

That thing is seriously hilarious.

I hope you're going to have a camera somewhere in the
cockpit so you can record "a model's eye view".

I'm anticipating a GREAT paint job...

Well this week has been a flurry of building!

First the mold for the leg segment:


Then we get resin leg segments!





After some slight cutting the segments fit together rather well!







Finally after adding some detail we glued the segments into boxes:



Mixed up some mold material


Put a lip around the boxes (to prevent any over flow):


Then we poured the mold material into the boxes and turned the pump on (the bubbles you see is the air escaping from the mold)!


After about 30 minutes of vacuuming the molds are set aside for 24 hours:


And you then get this:




The now pose able leg segments!!







We'll be starting the feet with pose able toes tomorrow! Hopefully I'll be able to get some more pictures up before I go to bed.

Crazy.

Here are some pictures of the leg sets.

Just insane. Looking forward to seeing the completed models. And I loved the whole "Light of the Emperor" thingie!

Thanks for the process pics Foda, very very cool to see how the whole deal works. Leg segments look good, though a little unsure how those 4 parts make for a leg all together. May have to check the FW warhound to get a feel for what it's going to look like with body / feet on the ends.

- Salvage

Well last night we got some work done on the waist.

Good to see you picked up your epic quest again .

HaHa, looks like the lathe at my work. we used to have a little enco as well. these titans are looking very nice. You should definetly be proud of them and yourselves.

asmodai650 - isn't it amazing how much mess resin makes on a lathe? Metal you get all those neat spiraly bits you can use on bases but resin just makes a huge mess!

Symbio Joe - Thanks, I couldn't just leave these titans to rust. I took a break and painted some warmachine models, so now its time to get back into the swing of things.

And with that... we have a waist!



Back, with hinge. This allows access to the bolts.




Well 2 legs, plus 2 hips.... well you know what that means
IT WALKS!

As i'm quiet new to Dakka, o didnt notice this topic before, buw WOW, it really looks amazing.

One little thing i notice, is the legs are quiet thin for such an enormous machine...


Grtz. Pim

This is a bit strange on the close ups the legs look quite okay but from far away they look too thin.

PRoeske - Patience young grasshopper we have a way to go.

Symbio Joe - I think its due to the fact that the legs are abit over extended to balance the body (which is just placed on top).
When the body is attached to the waist (which will be after the feet and head are done as we need to figure out the center of gravity) we'll be able to lower and pose the legs. The legs are also missing their shin armor which adds ALOT of bulk to them.

Can't wait to see them painted, what a monster project!

This is unbelieveably cool.

this is sooooo awesome. The attention to detail and process is amazing, and inspiring. I'm going to go build a space hulk to scale now!


Waitaminnit....no I'm not.

Look forward to updates.

Coolness!

Unfreakingbelievable.

this is great. isnt it expensive to buy all that resin?

-Develain

I can't help it! The hinge laying open on the waist right now reminds me of those little kids running around in cartoons in the one-piece jammies with their poop chute open!

Aside from that, it looks great and I can't wait to see the shin armor in place!!!

This is truely awe inspiring. so ... i have a question that maybe you can help me with. where did you learn how to resin cast. i have been looking around on the web for a while now and i have not been able to find a good site. can you drop me a link. thanks.

Love the titan, the attention to detail and the process, but the legs.... not feelin it. Just looks too much like a toy and that if it were hit from the side he would fall over. The individual legs need to be able to pivot to the side a bit to balance.

Awsome work as always.

I did think the same as others have said with regards to the legs until I checked out the picks on FW of one of theirs.

Once the shin armour is in place, as you have said, it will beef out the legs and make them look a lot sturdier.

Loving your work.

Kudus for the sheer thought and effort as well as sharing this with the unitiated in Ultra scratch-building.

I can't wait to see the next update.

I hate you with the green fire of all the jealousy in the world.

So... very... jealous...

P.S. great work!

Destrado, extrenm(54) - Thanks for the compliments!

gamefiend - Thanks! I've heard about an epic scale cobra destroyer someone built but I've been unable to find any pictures. I think it'd be cool if someone came up with something like that for a club project.

migsula - Thanks! When I finally get around to painting I'm sure it'll be no where near your level

Develain - Thanks! The resin is roughly $90 USD a gallon, and the silicon is the same. I've used about a gallon of each on this project, and a couple of others

ZamboniKnight - ROFL! I never thought of my titans having a butt-flap! The shin armor will probably come after the head and feet. They're not super important for the balance of the titan so they're going to be one of the last steps.

sennacherib - I started using resin with a Alumulite casting kit. It runs $75 USD and it comes with some resin, silicon, and a demo VHS. After that I picked up some info from a local guy who does some resin casting. There are some great websites out there that do resin casting, just do a google search on "resin casting" and you'll find some great ones.

MachineSlave - Thanks! The legs may be a bitlacking in posability, but considering forgeworld's titan woun't move at all I think I've got a leg up on them

Brother Bartius - Thanks! Hopefully when the shin armor is doe the legs will look abit more like the forgeworld one except for the silly exposed ball joint for an ankle.

Valhallan42nd - Thanks for the compliment!

Yours is "a bit" more ambitious than mine...

Hi all, long time lurker, first time poster!

I joined Dakka purely to say how mind blowing this project is, I am in total awe of your work!

Can't wait to see these beauties painted up!

Sok - Thanks for the compliment and welcome to dakka!


Well another night of hard work leads to some more pictures.
We've been hard at work on the head trying to keep it simple enough to be molded, yet complex enough to still look cool, so far we've come up with the following:
Parts:


Close up of the nose (hopefully this will resin):


Check out the floor!


Together:



We've also come up with the cowl that goes over the head, this part will be resined as well.


Head plus cowel:

Is this where we start banging our paintbrushes on the table and chanting "PAINT!" like a little kid who wants food?

ZamboniKnight wrote:Is this where we start banging our paintbrushes on the table and chanting "PAINT!" like a little kid who wants food?

No we are not that close.

This ROCKS! It seems half the people on this forum are complete modeling legends, but you sir (and your servo-dad) are unreal. Firing bullets wildly in praise

ZamboniKnight - I think Joe's right. By the time I start painting you'll be VERY hoarse and have a paintbrush sized hole in your table

DaMaGe - Wow, I don't know what to say, thanks for the compliment.

Here are some updated pics of the resins.

When all of this is done, I wonder if you'll have a summary of hours and money spent on this project. It seems like an awful lot of work you've put it.

Haha, you could say that about ANY project on here! Thats the hobby...

Insidentally, Foda_Bett, what pressure are you casting at? What resin and mould rubber are you using?

Here are some pictures of the 4 sets of heads and waists!

Great progress! I love the new hound heads , but maaaaaaybe i love symbiojoes hound more

Would all your titans be a match for the dreaded household pet monster

Go go go!

Do you still have your Warlord titan? Will we be able to get a "family photo" once you're done?

I wonder how many folks out there can actually say "I owna titan legion". My guess is you and like two other dudes.

JohnHwangDD - I don't even want to know what kind of time I've put into these machines.

Ramshackle_Curtis - the Pressure is at 45 PSI, and the vaccume is 28 HG.
The resin and molding stuffs is from John Greer, I posted a link back on on the 2nd or 3rd pages.

Symbio Joe - ROFL thats hillarious!

DaMaGe - Thanks! The tians would probably be tipped over by its assaults! Dog > 25mm killing machine

Savnok - Yeah I still have the Albion. He's sitting in my game room gathering dust right now. I still have't attached the arms from when I took him out for that mega game. I think when I finish the 4 hounds I'll schedule another mega game at my work just so I can field them all. Somewhere down the line I'd like to build 2 of the newer boxy reavers (styled after ForgeWorld's epic models). Of course thats a project a LONG way off.

Well you can't have just a bath tub with chairs in it for a head so you need a cover. Preferrably removeable so you can see all the cool gubbinz inside.





Attached to the "jaw"


Notice how the slot on the cover latches into the jaw there? That's to prevent the cover from toppling off and acting as an apocalyptic barrage.

Attached to the body with cowl




And since so much work was put into this we've decide to try and resin it. To do that we needed to fill in the giant wind screen area:




Hopefully if this resins correctly it'll make building the other 4 a snap. As well as make for some cool apocalypse objectives and destroyed markers.

You constantly surprise me Foda.

Just when I think this project can't get any better you pull something like this off.

That head is fantastic.

Dude the rest of what you were doing looked nice.

But now that I see that head. Wow. That's awesome dude!!

The coolness, scale and skill goin into this project is simply mind blowing.

Foda_Bett wrote:As well as make for some cool apocalypse objectives and destroyed markers.

That is such an awesome idea! Hell, if it wasn't ever-so-slightly illegal, I'd buy a few of those from you in a snap!

BTW, is anyone else having keyboard problems from drooling as a result of this blog?

Your effort and your documentation leave me breathless.

Thanks for sharing,

The Blackadder

Would it be possible to cast it in transparent/transluscent resin so you can see through the windshield?

Brother Bartius - Thanks! I think you'll be even more suprised when its finished. I've still got a couple of tricks in store.

Lemmingspawn - Thanks! My dad and I took turns holding the head on the body last night and just looking at how it completes the model. It looks really cool!

Flachzange - Thanks for the comments!

Sok - Yeah forgeworld had a cool idea with their "Just buy a titan and cut its head off" objective in the apocalypse book so I decided if we could get the head to resin we'd cast up some extras. You'll see in the photos there are 5 heads. The one on the far right was a pulled out of the mold a little early so it warped abit (as well as caving-in in a couple of spots) so I've already got an objective picked out.

The_Blackadder - Thanks! Legoburner asked me to write an article on casting for the new system (since i'm basically there already) so it will be put to good use.

CrimsonFist - Great minds think a like! I had some old micro mark crystal clear resin sitting around and tried pouring some into the mold. After waiting almost 6 hours for the stuff to dry (an estimated 90 minute dry time BTW) I went ahead and pulled the head out of the mold. It was a goopy sticky mess. But it finally harded (24hrs later) so it will become another objective.

Develain - Thanks! BTW I'm loving your thousand sons thread. I'm deffinatly going to be stealing some of your ideas and colors for my biggerized thousand sons.

NICE! Great progress Foda. Is it the shadows of is the head not quite flush on the jaw on the RHS? Also, I was thinking, whilst it saves time to resin all the heads, maybe a bit of extra work individually on them is a good idea, to provide some originality to each titan.
Can't wait for the next update

Excellent work as always Foda. I for one am really, really looking forward to an article on casting, as I'm looking to break into that aspect of modeling too. I've gotten my hands on the pump equipment (I work with vacuum systems in my lab all the time, hooray second-hand spare parts) but I'm still trying to find the right "chamber" of sorts.

Can't wait to see these puppies fully assembled!

DaMaGe - Actually its not as bad as it looks. There's a little slop between the peg on the nose and the slot on the plate. This allows the head to fit on loosly which decreases the number of paint touch ups. There woun't be much of a gap when I get the head painted as the paint will add some thickness to the model.

Teek - Thanks! The hardest part about the "chamber" is finding a table to use. I'll have to see if I can get the name of the rubber I used for the floor in mine. The glass is probably the easiest part to find (a decent one anyway). Just look for bell jars (which I'm sure you have at a lab) or even cheap cake stands.

Cool, sounds like a plan to me.

Me, rigth now, very intimidated...

My Titan blog

Azmodai - Your titan is starting to come along. Sorry its been hijacked by crazies. I've left some feedback in the thread and some ideas for some additional details.

I can't help imagine how it would be to show up to 3000p apocalypse battle with 4 warhounds, and little else... LOL
Imagine the opponents face...

Any plans for further lights or sounds? Seems like there may be room in the cockpit for some cool lighting effects with some LED's.

Azmodai - I pointed it out the other day and with the 5 titans I have 10,300 points of painted guard.

Phoenix - Yeah there a plans for lights all over. For the cockpit we've gotta finish the pilots first before moving on, as they can take up a bunch of room. I picked up a sentinel driver as well as the forgeworld standing titan crew to see if they can be put together anyway.

I just found this thread. Really impressive. I would like to have the time to try something like this but as it is I feed the FW machine to have my titans.

Can't wait to see them all finished!

Thanks Fabricator, btw if you have any mechanicus bits you want to let go I'd be interested

Foda_Bett wrote:Thanks Fabricator, btw if you have any mechanicus bits you want to let go I'd be interested

As a gesture of respect and appreciation for the ambition of this project, and for the quality of the execution, I think the Machina Opus symbol can be bestowed by Mars.

I can send you the little one that come with FW titans and can fit on the side of a rhino door, and the big ones that FW sells separately. From there you could probably cast more.

Send me your mailing address by pm.

Thanks Fabricator-General I'm sure I'll do the machine cult proud with these beauties and my mechanicus army (which I've started drawing plans for).

Since the head, cover, and nose are done its time to flesh out the cockpit. You can't have a titan without drivers after all.
Fist up was scratch building the moderati's chairs.

Here are some pics of the detailed up princeps chair and the moderati chairs inside the "tub"

... because just making the exterior of 4 titans isn't enough...

This is madness. Please stop before you explode with cool.

-Leo037

thats it, I hearby announce my retirement from titan-building, I have been judged and have been found wanting.

At least you give me some inspiration to build interriors for my titan, but you demolish my motivation...

Exellent work though!!! Forgeworld, go hide...

Azmodai

Nah you guys are wrong! Genius like this just lives to inspire us common peeps into building our own and improving our skills!

where would we be if we just gave up ? Azmodai you wouldn't have that warhound and Sleazy your Reaver would just be a "What if!!!"

Sure we might never be as great as this but that shouldnt stop us from being good!

Three cheers for Titans!

Hip Hip......

Look everyone. I found something wrong. We have hope for our own projects to have meaning.

Ha! Your excuse for a Titan battlegroup has so much detail that the crew have no access! Ha!

You need the princeps throne to be swivelling, set up to look like it can swivel 90 degrees. I think it is a little too wide to do that. Then the moderati can clamber through past the princeps chair, over their own into their chairs. The princeps follows rotating the chair behind him. You cant get out in a hurry, but ergonomics is not one of the Imperium's priorities.

thealternative is to model and access hatch on the side of the head in front of the princeps chair.

Nothing to add, just a quick question.

Where do you get your plasticard? Do you buy it online or at a FLGS?

Also, let me add my praise to the choir. Not only is this one of the most impressive projects I've ever seen, it is also one of the best modelling blogs ever in regards to not only showing the finished product but what goes into it.

yeah f74 you are right.

OI FODA! your titans might be pretty boys but we both know they fear the Reaver <cue Blue Oyster Cult>.

Cypher037 - Thanks!

sleazy - Don't give up I post these pics to give y'all ideas on how to clean out your bits boxes and build cool titans!

Azmodai - LOL, if you want to lazily build an interior buy an airplane or helicopter kit with an interior and then modify it to fit your titan's head.

f74 - Thanks! I'm glad I can inspire people just like some of the old dakkaites inspired me.

Orlanth - Not quite. The princeps chair is pushed to the side so that the forgeworld titan crew on foot can just walk sideways by. The moderati (since they're less important) have to climb over their chairs.

Sgt_Scruffy - There was a chain of craft stores called Michaels that closed down about 10 years ago and they put all their plasticard on 90% clearance so we cleaned out every one in north central Texas (about 6 shops). We're still using some of the 1/2 rounds and stuff from that purchase but the bulk plasticard I get it all at my FLGS. Thanks for the compliment!

sleazy - With forgeworlds new totally broken rules for the reaver I would indeed fear the beastie! I'd also fear the pus coming out of f74's titan if I ever actually got the shields off!

Foda_Bett wrote:

Orlanth - Not quite. The princeps chair is pushed to the side so that the forgeworld titan crew on foot can just walk sideways by. The moderati (since they're less important) have to climb over their chairs.

Hmm, so the chair does move. It must be the camera angle, it doesnt look like the crew can get in, the round 'things' and other protrusions on the wall seem to get in the way too much.

Orlanth wrote:

Foda_Bett wrote:

Orlanth - Not quite. The princeps chair is pushed to the side so that the forgeworld titan crew on foot can just walk sideways by. The moderati (since they're less important) have to climb over their chairs.

Hmm, so the chair does move. It must be the camera angle, it doesnt look like the crew can get in, the round 'things' and other protrusions on the wall seem to get in the way too much.

I can't take a picture showing you, because the chairs are now in a mold box but we will show you after we pull some copies.
Don't worry though, because the back door is resin, and can't open, so according to assumptions, no one can get in.
Remember the top of the head pivots from the back like a fighter plane, so they could crawl in that way if they had too.
There is a limit to how deep we will go. It can never ALL be to perfect scale because of plastic versus steel thickness, etc.

Sure, but when you do work this good critique raises to the next level too, not to complain, but because you can.

With anyone else, it would be picky to comment on the ergonomics of titan cockpits. So my comments are in a very real way a complement.

I did wonder if the canopy was hinged, but unless the head tilts forward it doesnt look like it will work.

Orlanth wrote:Sure, but when you do work this good critique raises to the next level too, not to complain, but because you can.

With anyone else, it would be picky to comment on the ergonomics of titan cockpits. So my comments are in a very real way a complement.

I did wonder if the canopy was hinged, but unless the head tilts forward it doesnt look like it will work.

We like comments, both good and bad, because it helps all of us in the group to get better. I’m a big boy, and welcome constructive criticism. Lately, however, it seems like you just flat don’t like this model… If that is the case, why do you follow the thread? I can’t really tell where you are coming from, because I haven’t seen any of your models to use as a point of reference. Please advise.

Well these are pulled fresh from the molds, no dusting, sanding, or cleanup:


"Hey what's that flashy thing?"


With the top installed.

Amazing.

Foda_Bett wrote:

We like comments, both good and bad, because it helps all of us in the group to get better. I’m a big boy, and welcome constructive criticism. Lately, however, it seems like you just flat don’t like this model… If that is the case, why do you follow the thread? I can’t really tell where you are coming from, because I haven’t seen any of your models to use as a point of reference. Please advise.

You got me all wrong, I have no agenda. How many tongue-in-cheek smilies do you need to see before you see the difference between a comment and an attack. Many have said your work is so good it disillusions them. So when I find something that might need improvement I embellished on it. Like this.

On that note in your recent pictures the chair looks repositioned, and now permits good access. Or was that just camera angle?

The forward chairs look too close. The one on the left (in the pic) looks like he's hitting his head on the front panel. Are Titans equipped with passenger side airbags?

A note on tongue in cheek and sarcastic comments on the internet: They rarely translate well through no fault of the writer, but when read, the reader simply has no idea as to the tone of voice or inflection placed on certain words. It sucks, because some really funny things end up being taken in the entirely wrong light. Sometimes it's best to stick to knock knock jokes

I dont think Orlanth was seriously critisizing Foda, anymore than I was seriously handing in my resignation. You are so head and shoulders above every other scratch titan that any "faults" are sure to be tongue in cheek.

I wish I had your casting skills, its something I'm thinking about, is there any guides or sites you can pint me towards?

The forward chairs look about right. Moderati while important dont need a view, and the fact that they are bowed before the dashboard of the titan makes them look suitably servile. Its 'unfortunate' that the head angle of the moderati looking up means he is looking at the frame and not out the window, but if there is instrumentation detail around the frame, as in a real aircraft cockpit (the nearest analogy), this could look all the better. Without instrumentation panels on the frame it might be better to swap over the two moderati.

I wonder however if the Princeps is high up enough to have an unrestricted forward view. If the front widescreen is above head height of the Moderati, and the Princeps appears less than a full head height above them the front view may end up more like a childs eye view, not good when you are that high off the ground. Again this might just be camera angle but I wonder if the Princeps needs a raised seat base.

Zamboni Knight, you are quite correct on how posts on the net often sound crabbier than intended. It's because reasonable people can be mistaken for the trollz that salt the fields for everyone. Which is why liberal use of smilies is needed if you want to make a joke criticism. But as you say, even then its not always taken the right way. No harm done though.

sleazy wrote:I dont think Orlanth was seriously critisizing Foda, anymore than I was seriously handing in my resignation. You are so head and shoulders above every other scratch titan that any "faults" are sure to be tongue in cheek.

This is precisely what I was saying. In fact my pointing out 'flaws' was based directly on your mock resignation comments to 'encourage' you.

I would think WOOOW, kind'a sums it up...

I think some of you may have missed a key point – I guess I didn’t explain it well enough a couple of posts ago… Nothing has been properly placed or glued – we haven’t even sanded the bases off the resin pulls – the seats and characters were only set in temporarily to let everyone see an approximation of positioning…. we only made these parts to be able to tell the weight for balancing when we build the feet. Nothing will be glued until we are ready for paint! One of the characters will be looking at the dashboard (which isn’t even built yet), which will be lit (all in due time) and the other will be looking out the windshield, and not at a post. Also, if you look at the cockpit bucket more carefully, you will see the back half of the floor is raised. Remember, this is not a kit. Scratch building sometimes requires several iterations before everything goes together properly.

It’s time to work on the feet!

Remember, this is not a kit. Scratch building sometimes requires several iterations before everything goes together properly.

I don't want your excuses! I want perfection from the get go!

Forgot a few pictures!
Here are some photos of the models as they appear after molding. The big braces you see under their butts is to prevent the drivers from breaking off at the ankles when pulled (this happend a few times on some other molds).

That is beautiful. Personally I prefer my FW titan, but thats just because its Chaos, and im an evil fanboy. Yours appears so much more structurally sound, im having difficulty assembling mine.

One Question: Once you have finished the molding process, how long do you think it would take to make one? It would be awesome if you could churn them out one a day, and have an entire Titan Army! Good luck finding someone brave enough to battle you with 5 titans, let alone a whole company of them.

Awesome Foda! I love the figures, it proves that you can cast great minis as well as the larger pieces - not that there was much reason to doubt it
Looking forward to the feet, and seeing the titans standing.

-DMG-

blinky - Thanks! I'm sure after this project I could get a titan from scratch to this point in about a weekend (as long as I built simple guns).

DaMaGe - Thanks! If you scroll down you'll see one standing without feet.

Well since we have to figure out how to build the feet we need to know how the weight is distributed on the titan. So we glued a body together.
PLEASE REMEMBER: This is just quickly glued together, there is no details added, no gap filling, no lights, no sounds, no wiring, not even a nose, but it is a good mock up.

Can you spot the marine?

SWWWEEEET! I love it!!
I think the thinness of the legs has already been mentioned - the solution being the plates around the shins (that have yet to arrive).
Also, do you think that this pairing of guns looks a little unbalanced? The RH gun is considerably smaller. Just a thought.

Final point, who else has immaturely chuckled at "super lube". Oh dear...


-DMG-

It's a titan!!!

Agreed on skinny legs, but also agreed that some armor plating will bulk them right up. The guns actually look a little over-sized when put all together, but I think that's just me or the angle, cause even if they are big, big = awesome is a hard equation to argue with

Looking at it the hip / pelvic area looks like it could use some more work, but I'm positive more work is ocurring as I write this

- Salvage

I agree that the guns look a bit unbalanced. I think that the big one would be better with a single barrel, but that might lok wierd now that the mount has been designed for a double. Aside from that great, can't wait to see it completed.

I have to admit to a sly snigger at super lube. This looks incredible though, the attention to detail is fantastic, that's what makes a great model stand out from an ok one.

Jazz is for Losers wrote:I agree that the guns look a bit unbalanced.

When I saw the guns lined up a few pages back I did notice a marked size difference, however if the guns are pairedup carefully this will not matter. Though very cleverly done I must admit to not being too keen on some of the guns. However I think its just the overly visible plumbing references, and a good paint job should fix that.

DaMaGe - The guns are removable as I've stated countless times. The guns were placed on the titan to give us an example of the 2 extremes. The slimmer right handed turbo laser, and the fatter left handed ack-ack.

Boss_Salvage - The guns were done off of forgeworld's so if they're oversized its a flaw in the design. The body isn't detailed at all (which includes some additional stuff for the wings) so when its done it will look quite different.

Jazz is for Losers - Thanks!

Greebynog - I hadn't ever thought of the synthetic "Super lube" as humorous until now. The stuff works great on the table saw as it keeps the plexi glass from getting hung up. Thanks for the compliment.

Orlanth - There's a scratch builder that goes to a few of the model shows and many of his sci-fi vehicles are old ergonomic mice and trac-balls. Its rather funny to see them before they're painted, but when you get a coat of paint and some weathering even a deodorant can can look like a warship.

Foda, sorry if I seem to have exasperated you with that comment - I know that you can chop and change the guns as need be, so I wasn't saying "oh no, you've ruined the titan..." etc etc, but more that those two don't quite match. Obviously, you've now explained why you chose to match the two extremes, and that makes total sense.
Apologies again if I seemed to communicate any emotion not analogous to "WOW!!".

-DMG-

I must admit that last post came across a bit harsh.
I didn't mean to sound upset, I just want y'all to remember that the pictures were mearly for test purposes and because of that we needed the 2 ends of the spectrum.

Amazing, keep the pics coming.

Just read the entire thread. nice work man.

Definitely inspirational.

I'm been wanting to do some molding for terrain purposes (just plaster but I may look at other materials) so I think i'll actually look in to that now.

You know what would be BA? Cup holders.

Just kidding. I think the coolest part of this whole project is
the idea that the entire process is reproducible. Why stop at
four titans when you can have twenty?

Brilliant work. Your crew, cockpit, and torso detailing are all particularly nice.

I am however in agreement with the others that without the shin plates the legs look really skinny. I failed to find any reference to shin plates while scanning back- are you doing some, or leaving the legs as they are in the test-assembly pic?

Again, brilliant work. Your titan legion is going to rock.

Foda_Bett wrote:The body isn't detailed at all (which includes some additional stuff for the wings) so when its done it will look quite different.

The stuff works great on the table saw as it keeps the plexi glass from getting hung up.

Oh, Foda... you're so funny, you don't even know your genius

there's two jokes up there... one modeling, the other... "crude"

malfred wrote:You know what would be BA? Cup holders.

Yes. I second the nomination of the gentleman from, well, where ever he's from... doesn't matter, cup holders would be awesome!

It's one of those tiny details that no one notices at first, but when they look closer...

Cupholders would be better than lights.

In fact, you should model one of the princeps to be holding out a cup of coffee or hot cocoa, like he pointing forward with it.

Maybe another like he just spilled the cup in his lap so he's half getting up and about to take it out on the moderati.

Brother Bartius - Thanks!

Lagduf - Thanks! I haven't tried plaster molding but I've resined some things that were made with dental plaster. Be warned if you're going to do that the silicon has a tendencey to absorb into the plaster, making it a bear to remove from the mold.

malfred - LOL the only thing stopping me from going to 20 is the fact that unless 20 combine like voltron to make a house I'd be homeless

Savnock - The shin plates were not necessary to find the balance point of the titan so they aren't bulit yet. They will be constructed right before painting, and will snap on just like my warlord's armor.

ZamboniKnight - I guess my mind isn't in the gutter as much as y'all I don't see that as funny

CrimsonFist - I don't know about better than lights. I think it will be pretty cool when I can turn the lights off and play from the spot lights on my titans. I thought about having one sound like Invader Zim saying "Push those buttons pull those levers!"

Although we're currently working on the feet we're taking cupholders into consideration... I wonder what starbucks would look like in the 41st millenium?

Foda_Bett wrote:Brother Bartius - Thanks!

Lagduf - Thanks! I haven't tried plaster molding but I've resined some things that were made with dental plaster. Be warned if you're going to do that the silicon has a tendencey to absorb into the plaster, making it a bear to remove from the mold

Thats, i'll keep that in mind. My sister actually has quite a bit of knowledge about working with plaster from some art courses she just recently took in college. I'm going to too hit her up for as much help as possible.

I don't think Starbucks would survive in to the 41st millenium. Coca-Cola yes, starbucks no.

One thing to remember though. Plaster is no where near as strong as resin is, nor does it show the kind of detail resin does.

Looks great so far. What were the two guns on there? If I remember from earlier in the thread, is that the inferno gun and the laser destroyer?

Is there going to be any superficial damage to the carapace/greaves added?

Any idea on the legion yet? I always though the warp-runners had the coolest scheme.

Well we've been hard at work on the feet so its time for another update!

Humble beginnings of a foot:


Blank toe, blank toe mold and foot (minus rear toe)


Rear toe attached:


View from above:


From behind:


And after a couple of hours of detailing:




I've got to say for the crappy over sized models forgeworld makes their photo etch and normal sized models are great!
I've put one of the medium eagle sprues through the works for this project and I've got 2/3 of the sprue left!

Please god don't paint them Blood Angels. Red is overused and wouldnt loot that good.

I always though the warp-runners had the coolest scheme.

Now thats a proper Titan scheme.

I found a PDF that lists titan color schemes but I'd like a place where I can see examples of the loyalist schemes.
Does anyone know of such a site or even book?

I have a book called Titan Legions Codex: Titanicus... I'm not sure if its from the original version of Epic, or if it predates epic, found it at a used bookstore. You might want to see if you can get your hands on a copy...

There is a german website with canon colour schemes.

Here it is:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.de/wiki/Titanenlegion

There are four main Titan Legions depicted in canon, though some may be equally large but more obscure.

Legio Astorum (Warp Runners). Mostof the heroic Princeps written up have been from this legion. Its also a frequently depicted colour scheme, which hasd changed slightly (for the better IMHO) with the new Forgeworld Reaver. Their principle duties involve guarding the Cadian Gate.

Legio Griffonicus (War Griffons). Frequently depicted but not too much is known about them except the colour scheme. though in more recent history they lost their forgeworld to the nids.

Legio Destructor (Steel Beasts). The largest known legion. Particularly well stocked in titans of all sizes. They like to try to 'out waargh' orks by mounting speaker systems on their titans, it usually works.


Legio Ignatus (Fire Wasps). By far the most prestigious legion. Defended the Imperial Palace during the Horus Heresy. For this the Fire Wasps are the only legion permitted on Holy Terra. The Legion has the honour of supporting the Adeptus Custodes, two warlord titans from the legion maintain permenant vigil over the Golden Throne.
The Fire Wasps still see action elsewhere (unlike the Adeptus Custodes) and were recently seen on Taros.

Others:

Legio Metallica (Iron Skulls). The titan legion responsible for guarding Armageddon, most of their exposure comes fro armageddon supplements. This legion was all but destroyed during the ork invasion.

Well the foot mold came out right:


Here's the resin with the master:



So now I know what you're wondering. Well you've got this pretty foot, what does it look like on the titan?
So here's the photos










Here's a photo with the nose:


Well we're two feet away from having the full sets, after that its on to the toes (of which we have a blank ready), and then shin armor.

Hell's bells. This thing is a few armour plates away from being ready to kick some serious ass. Why stop at four?