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Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/01/31 23:47:55


Post by: Fafnir


Well, turns out that I've signed up for my first tournament. It's a 1000 points doubles tournaments, with teams of 4 that rotate for each match. Anyway, I was asked if I wanted to enter, and decided I might as well toss in the Gallowsmen. But first I'll have to finish them. So I have 1 month to finish the entire army.

Here's what I have planned:
HQ
Librarian (jump pack) - 125

5*Honour Gaurd (jump packs, 2*flamer, 3*melta, 3*plasma) - 250

Elites
Furioso Dreadnought (blood talons) - 125

Troops
4*Death Company (jump packs, 2*power weapon, 1*power fist) - 195
Lemartes - 150

5*Assault Marines (1*melta gun, power weapon, infernus pistol, melta bombs) - 145


Basically, the plan will be to have my ally destroy/move enemy models to cut a nice big opening for my death company to rush in and kill whatever needs killing. Essentially, my list will act as a super-concentrated marine missile of death.

Anyway, to start off, I recently finished painting my counts-as-Astorath, the Gallowsmen High Executioner:




Next up, the second honour gaurd, packing a plasma and melta gun. The greenstuff on his left thigh got really warped because of a gluing incident, but I'll be able to paint it to look like battle damage, so I'm not too worried:


One of the Death Company miniatures.


And lastly, a picture of all the minatures I have done so far. The LC/SS model will just count as carrying a power weapon for the tourney, and I'll remove the normal backpack from the one green marine (Gallowsmen chaptergaurd colours) and give him a jump pack. I never intended to use him, since he was just a prototype for the rest of my truescales, but I need the bodies.


If I can manage to get them all converted and painted up to standard by the tourney date, I'll be a shoe in for best presentation, but the challenge is actually getting there.

(and for those wondering what book I'm using to take the photos on, it's Yoshitaka Amano's "Dawn" compilation artbook. Totally worth getting if you're a fan of his work, it's absolutely beautiful)


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 00:18:32


Post by: Medium of Death


Epic.

Also, how long does one Gallowsman take to complete?

Nose to the grindstone, good sir.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 00:24:34


Post by: Llamahead


Awesome not quite sure about the Plasma/ Melta Gun dual wielder could be a bugger for the casualty rules. Really Cool true scale modelling and the High Executioner looks really real somehow.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 00:29:44


Post by: Fafnir


Medium of Death wrote:Epic.

Also, how long does one Gallowsman take to complete?

Nose to the grindstone, good sir.


Including painting, they can take up to 10 hours per model. Although I'm trying to cut that down, they still take a very long time to make.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Here comes another Honour Gaurd. He'll count as having a flamer and plasma gun. And if anyone says otherwise, they can shove a chainsword right up their ass. He just looks too cool.





Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 16:23:05


Post by: Imperial Monkey


Nice heavy flamer conversion there. Where are those heads from? I really like them, dunno where to get them though...


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 16:32:11


Post by: AesSedai


The High Executioner is a total badass.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 16:36:14


Post by: SilverMK2


Looks pretty cool - nice work.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 16:45:35


Post by: Reaper Man 2020


I like them, makes me want to do some true scale marines my self!
Are you using Terminator legs? What have you done to the torsos?


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 16:48:01


Post by: shingouki


i love the executioner he looks class.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 17:21:13


Post by: miniman


For the life of me I can't place where the High Executioner's head comes from. I think it's from a Space Wolf sprue, any clarification would be much appreciated.
The models themselves are looking really good as well, can't wait to see the finished results on all of them!


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 17:40:57


Post by: McNutty


Your marines look pretty sick and I also love the use of the heavy flamer arm.

Are you just using greenstuff to bulk out the torsos?


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 17:53:22


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


2 2handed weapons? I think that's a no no.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 18:30:14


Post by: Xenith


Rose_Mountainz wrote:2 2handed weapons? I think that's a no no.


Only if you are still playing te 3rd edition SM codex.

HG can swap a melta/plasma/flamer for their bolt pistol, then a melta/plasma/flamer for their chainsword.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 19:10:30


Post by: Fafnir


Imperial Monkey wrote:Nice heavy flamer conversion there. Where are those heads from? I really like them, dunno where to get them though...


Some of the heads are from the Death Company Kit, some are from the Black Templar sprue, one is from the Dark Angels sprue, and some are from the Assault Marines kit. One of them is customized with greenstuff (the LC/SS marine, who also appears in my signature), and the High Executioner uses a Space Wolf head.

Reaper Man 2020 wrote:I like them, makes me want to do some true scale marines my self!
Are you using Terminator legs? What have you done to the torsos?


Yep, Terminator legs. The torsos are just bulked out a bit with green stuff. The back plate is always a normal marine back plate, and the front plate is either a terminator front plate or a normal marine front plate, depending on the look I'm going for. Either way, it gets bulked up with greenstuff (not too much, just a bit'll do) to add a little more 'weight' to the model.

miniman wrote:For the life of me I can't place where the High Executioner's head comes from. I think it's from a Space Wolf sprue, any clarification would be much appreciated.
The models themselves are looking really good as well, can't wait to see the finished results on all of them!


I *think* it's from the Grey Hunters box. But I'm not sure, since I got it from a friend (he had a tonne of extra puppy heads and marine parts in general, so he let me raid his bits box).

Rose_Mountainz wrote:2 2handed weapons? I think that's a no no.


Blood Angels Honour Gaurd make such loadouts perfectly legal.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 19:51:07


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


I do know that is says that in the codex, but I got a feeling it's in the big rulebook thought I could be wrong. It feels wrong to have 2 2handed weapons at least.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 19:55:37


Post by: Fafnir


Nope, nothing wrong with having 2 two-handed weapons. Back in 3rd edition, you could only take 2 weapons on a model, either 2 one-handed weapons or a two-handed weapon and a one-handed wepaon, but never 2 two-handed weapons.

But now you can take as many weapons as you want as long as the codex allows it, there's no restriction.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 20:02:29


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Ok, thx for the info. I thinks it's because I've always thought that it would look silly and pretty unpractical to have 2 2handed that I still think that you're not allowed to have it.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/01 21:48:57


Post by: Reanimator


This thread makes me want to do my own truescale marines. And I never want to make a marines army. Cracking work!

PS rules or otherwise, a heavy flamer and plasma gun looks ninja.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/02 06:24:15


Post by: Lord Kaesar II


Dangit! Of course you would have to go and make some amazing looking truescale marines. Well, I guess I'll just have to one up this in my current works... additionally, though I love the apt use of rules, I must simply say Derned Blood Angels, being able to technically take on a couple of assault weapons each. I still think the deep striking land raider is uncalled for, even if it is a great idea. Your work is too amazing, good sir, adding another person whose TS marines turn out to trump mine (though not too hard, especially considering the vast majority are still under construction, set aside for a good number of months...).

I believe I have spoken my piece and peace, so, Kaesar II out.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/06 11:08:33


Post by: Fafnir


Well, things have been shuffled a bit after my first test game with the army (still having to proxy lots). Turns out that a single unit of Death company with Lemartes is more than enough DC to get the job done (seriously, I had Lemartes clean up 8 units all on his own), and that a second unit just gets vapourized pretty quickly. Not to mention that Astorath sucks ass.

So there'll be a major paradigm shift. A single unit of Death Company led by Lemartes, with a small unit of assault marines geared for anti-tank measures, the honour gaurd still in place (it's too late to go back on them now), and a Furioso Dreadnaught with bloodclaws to help bring everything together. Astorath will be replaced with a Librarian.

So, on to the interesting stuff:

Converted my chapter master (for those of you familiar with my older conversions, this Chapter Master pretty much retcons the old model to that of a normal fisty guy) using pieces from the Terminator kits, Empire Flagellant kit, Death Company box, and Assault Marine box. And he looks fething awesome.

For the tournament and other low-point games, he'll likely function as the Librarian, although for point levels above 1000, he'll function as the Sanguinor.

Master Executioner Woden




Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/06 11:26:55


Post by: tipios


Great work, they all look amazing. The heavy flamer idea looks so hardcore, and the pose really stands out.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/06 11:29:17


Post by: Fafnir


I heard that someone may end up raising some WYSIWIG issues about my army, what with the heavy flamer and the large bases and the being too cool and all.

I assure you, if that does happen, there will be hell to pay. HELL TO PAY.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/06 11:38:56


Post by: tipios


So they will see a heavy flamer, and get burnt


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/06 22:38:18


Post by: Yggdrasil


Epic!!! That kitbashing is awesome!!


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/07 08:32:22


Post by: endtransmission


Excellent work on those guys. I really like the dual wielding ones... it really makes it obvious that these are super strong soldiers that shouldn't be messed with.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/07 09:10:33


Post by: Fafnir


On to Gallowsman number 12, 4 more to go.

This guy'll count as Lemartes. After he ended up killing 38 gaunts, a trygon, and 10 genestealers, he needed a suitably epic model to compensate. I hope that, once this guy's painted, he'll do justice to the monster that is Lemartes.




Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/07 09:52:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


real good characters created by you, tell you what, when the next marine movie is in process of making they should contact you...
i lkie your bareheaded marines now the best, what heads did you use?

all thumbs up i could muster for this grim and dark modeling and painting^^

vik


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/07 10:05:26


Post by: Fafnir


The heads of the the two unpainted guys are from the (Fantasy) Empire Flagellant box, and the head of the painted guy is from the Space Wolves Grey Hunter box.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/07 10:21:54


Post by: Viktor von Domm


the flagenants seem pretty on vogue these days here^^
they ahve certainly the right feel of righteous fury on them^^


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/07 10:49:55


Post by: Emperors_Champion


Rose_Mountainz wrote:Ok, thx for the info. I thinks it's because I've always thought that it would look silly and pretty unpractical to have 2 2handed that I still think that you're not allowed to have it.


You can have pretty much what you want these days as long as you pay the pts. Ends up being v.expensive and of course you can't use both in each turn, plus you miss out on Attack dice.

Fafnir wrote:I heard that someone may end up raising some WYSIWIG issues about my army, what with the heavy flamer and the large bases and the being too cool and all.

I assure you, if that does happen, there will be hell to pay. HELL TO PAY.


I'm usually a big fan of WYSIWYG to an extent but if anyone says anything just point out every single Space Marine has a bolt pistol, but no one every gives them all one!

Awesome looking minis though, the new H.Flamer model is immense, I've used several myself. As a massive BA fan myself I must dip my hat to you sir!




Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 06:05:36


Post by: Fafnir


Here's my count-as sanguinary novitiate. As far as fluff for my chapter goes, he'll be what's called a 'sanctifier.'

I actually ran out of Jump Packs, but one of my teammates is buying a Marine Battle Force later, and he'll give me his jump packs, so this guy'll just have to wait until then (although, considering the complexity of this model, it's probably for the best that he doesn't get his jetpack until after he's finished being painted). Only 3 more marines to go.






Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 09:22:09


Post by: Viktor von Domm


why does he wear xenoweaponry? all SM cutlery is missing in the dishwasher?


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 09:26:39


Post by: Fafnir


It's a ceremonial blade used for debowling (amoung other things) fallen foes.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 09:33:07


Post by: Viktor von Domm


something along those lines was pretty sure...so will this then get something of an obsidian paintjob then?


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 09:38:01


Post by: Fafnir


He'll be getting a light green paintjob, actually. Check my fluff topic in the Background section to see it.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 09:50:57


Post by: Viktor von Domm


so more of a jadeknife then...

had a read in a first part of the fluff...for my taste too gruesome. all that tortture is a bit to much for me. don´t get me wrong, your a good author and i think you write good and in a logical way. only that your backround for your chapter isn´t to my liking^^...
seems that in my life there is a bit too much torture atm... my wife insisted just yesterday to see the stieg larson film.... i hate something like that... for me it stops after the first clip in the head after that it gets obsessiv^^ not saying that your... a good author should be able to think out of the box and be creative meaning create someting new. and so you did...

hope i made myself clear^^

vik


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 09:57:36


Post by: Fafnir


Oh, I thought you meant the colour of the marine. Yeah, the Marine will be green, but the knife will probably just be metallic. Obsidian sounds like a pretty good idea though... I'll probably figure it out when I actually get the guy painted.

And as for the fluff, I definetly understand. I'm not a fan of torture movies at all, and I'm a fairly squeamish individual if I say so myself. I kind of tried to channel that into the fluff for the chapter, since I wanted to build around a chapter that used and embraced fear and terror.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 10:01:47


Post by: Viktor von Domm


and there i thought the whole of the marines stood for the glorification of the corpse god and death as a whole^^

using it as a means to channel something...did it work?
i grew up with too many too good to be true heros in comics and the image stuck to me so i cant turn that page for me^^. tho executions is at least in the grim dark sometimes a nessercary means of achieving certain aims...


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 10:06:27


Post by: Fafnir


Fluffwise, glorification of death, although a large aspect of their rituals, is not the only aspect. Finding absolution for fallen marines/imperials is another large part of their methods, and then the obvious use as a tool to inspire discomfort and fear in foes.

They're essentially a combination of Odin, the "Cerements" story from Sandman: World's End, and the Spanish Inquisition.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 10:10:49


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well as much as i understand (which isn´t that much as much of the canon is still not read by me) is that the inquisition is working with the same methodes...


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 10:20:13


Post by: Fafnir


As weird as it sounds, the Gallowsmen do it purely out of love. Where the Inquisition uses torture as a tool for interrogation and punishment, the Gallowsmen do it to purify and absolve others of their sins.

They're also significantly messier/showier about it.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/08 11:52:40


Post by: Viktor von Domm


so thats then also love in detail then?^^


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/09 11:11:40


Post by: Fafnir


Here's the last of the Honour Gaurd.

I replaced the plasma weaponry of the entire squad with Lightning claws. So the loadout is now 3*Melta, 2*Flamer, and 3*Lightning Claws. This'll give the squad a better edge in close combat, and should ultimately make them a lot more versatile. It also makes them compatable with the Chapter Banner should I use it with future expansions to the army.

It'll also mean that I'll be running the army without my beloved plasma. Which means no more of those wonderful moments where my entire army fries itself in one turn (seriously, it's happened) (as much as I love plasma, it tends to hate me with a firery passion).

I also gave him the base that the Novitiate had in the previous pics. The Novitiate's new base looks better on him.

And that just leaves me with 2 more marines to do. Although, in addition to being out of jump packs, I'm also out of melta guns (seriously though, I'm starting to run out of a lot of parts). So I'm in a bit of a bind right now...





Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/09 11:42:15


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Like the lightning claw /melta alot more than the previous loadout.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/09 11:45:28


Post by: Fafnir


I still love Plasma, just slightly less than I used to.

I'm not going to lie, anything with S7 AP2 and Gets Hot! makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside, even if it has an absurd tendancy to blow up in my face.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/11 10:59:40


Post by: Fafnir


I went ahead and finished the last of the conversions... but I'm hopped up on glue fumes and way too dizzy to take some decent picks right now, so you'll have to wait until tomorrow.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/11 11:10:34


Post by: SilverMK2


Really love your truescale marines.

Also, buy a fan or open a window!


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/11 11:26:18


Post by: TheMightyWarhamster


really love how you're going about the truescaling. i just wonder how you'll paint them, i imagine it'll be quite hard to go through all these layers of detail.
could you post a step-by step on the body assembly? i'd love to see how you connect the legs wehn you use the standard marine backpack.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/11 11:38:55


Post by: Fafnir


I won't be using the standard backpack, they all use jump packs.
And it's a little late to do a step by step, since I just finished the last one.

But if there's one thing I learned about GSing and conversion, it's that if you ever, ever make a mistake, you can always cover it up by adding more accessories on top. And if you do it tastefully, not only does no-one notice the difference, but it actually makes it look cooler.

And as for painting... it'll be tough, but I have a week long break coming up, and hopefully I'll be able to trudge through that and get it all done.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 07:41:38


Post by: Fafnir


I'm finally done the first part of this massive project: All major conversions are now complete. Jump packs for the Honour Gaurd squad are missing, and one of the Assault Marines needs a melta gun, but otherwise, the army's ready for painting (although I'll be adding a Dreadnought to the mix tomorrow).

First off, rebuilt the flamer Honour Gaurd. The only parts used here from the original model are the head and the right arm. I much prefer this version. It's also worth noting that compared to any of the other truescales, this one has the bulkiest and most intimidating (in my opinion) sillohuette, making it one of my favourite models in the army, right after the Sanctifier (the dude with the flag).



Here's the second redone Honour Gaurd. The only reused part is the melta gun and lightning claw. His pose looks kind of awkward right now, but once he has a jetpack, it'll make sense.



Here are the two Assault Marines that I made out of their old bodies. The one on the right is on a normal terminator base because I ran out of suitable resin bases, and the one on the left has no arms because I ran out of melta guns. If I can't secure a melta gun by the tourney, I'll just slap on a spare flamer or plasma gun. As for the base... I won't be able to find one until I go to Calgary again.


Lastly, a group shot of the entire army (sans dreadnought which I'll be getting tomorrow). Painting all these guys will be an absolute nightmare.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 09:58:25


Post by: Reaper Man 2020


Great work, a really cool project! I can't wait to see them all painted you have a really earthy style!


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 10:06:34


Post by: Savnock


Really lovely work there, mate.

Can't wait to see the texture effects that your muted paintstyle and great details have en masse.



Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 13:50:46


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i don´t think it is such a good idea to put too much detail in the groind region... all that books and shields and keys...
the one with the extra torso belts looks really like he means business...i like him the most!


vik


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 19:22:16


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


*Shakes fist* Too good!
Too good I say!


The only thing I don't like the the open book between the guys legs.
Other than that, these are truly epic.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 19:53:29


Post by: Fafnir


Viktor von Domm wrote:i don´t think it is such a good idea to put too much detail in the groind region... all that books and shields and keys...
the one with the extra torso belts looks really like he means business...i like him the most!


vik


The keys and junk are tools for torture/execution/funeral work. The books and papyrus are records on various methods.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 19:55:01


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


Also, Fafnir, seeing all your marines has given me a great idea!

I recently got some Gk's in a swap, including an armless GK termie. I will be loading him up with extras and making a cool guy like your gallowsmen.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 20:11:45


Post by: Fafnir


I can only wish you the best of luck with that, doing it to a metal model would be hard as hell.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 20:20:47


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


I'm probably not going to gs anything, as GK termies are a bit smaller than normal Termies anyway


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 20:37:26


Post by: crazypsyko666


Subscrib'd. This is awesome. The meltagun-lightning claw marine looks like he could use some bigger pauldrons.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 20:42:29


Post by: Fafnir


I'd love to, but then his jump pack won't fit on him. He'll have to just live his life feeling inadequate in the pauldron zone.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 21:58:31


Post by: Perkustin


I despise non spacewolve bearded marines.... However your conversions are all excellent.. Cant wait to see the dreadnought.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 22:06:52


Post by: Fafnir


Just wondering, is there some fluff that suggests that non-wolf marines aren't supposed to have beards?


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 22:40:44


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm could be but i dont really like bald marines, so...^^
i understod why the things/details are there and for what uses... just all in the groin section is a bit depressing...
seems like there is nothing in the region besides artificial tools...*nudge, nudge, nudge*
fluffwise i think they are cool, and bearded marines look way more powerfull than bald ones!

cheers mate, vik


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 22:42:10


Post by: Fafnir


Well, to be fair, it's not like Marines have much going on down there. With all the hormone therapy they go through at such a young age, I'd be surprised if their stones were any bigger than raisens.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/12 22:45:58


Post by: Viktor von Domm


lol, yeah i heard that argument before...steroids gets the grapes to form into raisins...lol

anybody else still figuring out why they now are so into fighting and burning and torturing...i see some serious issues here...


vik


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/14 09:22:02


Post by: Fafnir


In a distinct case of 'about time,' painting has begun. First up, an honour gaurd. 7 hours of painting alone so far. All that's left is to finish his jump pack. The photo doesn't really show the dirt that's speckled all over him very well. He's a very dirty boy.





Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/14 14:05:04


Post by: Medium of Death


This thread just gets better.
FWIW I think the bearded marines look awesome. I'm not really a fan of bearded marines, but it just seems to fit perfectly for your chaps.
I'm totally wanting to do some noise marines in this style now.

Any news on the Dreadnought?


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/14 14:34:48


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Hi Fafnir
Just found the thread and glad I did.
Love what you have going here, great stuff!

Personally am finding the blue of the lightning claw too strong for the excellent scheme you have. A little of that blue will go a long way against the muted colours.



Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/14 20:03:46


Post by: Fafnir


Yeah, it's a different blue than the one I used for the lightning claws on the other marine. I'll have to add more white to the claws when I finish the marine.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/14 20:06:18


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


Looking good

Are the dangling keys from the Empire flaggellants (sp) box too?


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/14 20:11:52


Post by: Fafnir


Yep. That box is amazing.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/14 20:17:31


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


I may have to grab one for myself soon.

Are you going to do osl with your LC's and Power weapons?


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/14 20:21:56


Post by: Brother Heinrich


Awesome, this chapter intimidates the Sh*t out of me lol


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/14 20:25:20


Post by: Fafnir


Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:I may have to grab one for myself soon.


I definetly recommend it. Everyone should have it in their bits box, it's that good.

Are you going to do osl with your LC's and Power weapons?


I really don't know. I'm pretty sure I'll do it for the Chapter Master, but for everyone else... not sure. I don't want to draw away from the muted colours and accumulated dirt/battle damage too much.

Oh, and I've completed the fluff for the chapter as well. Although I may add some profiles for notable marines, the fluff is largely done. You can check it out here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/305487.page


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/15 04:30:49


Post by: manoknok


Excellent use of the Flagelants bits.

Great concept...your own?


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/15 04:45:33


Post by: Fafnir


Yes, the chapter is entirely original. The name of their home planet comes from the Sandman comics, and the idea of their association with gallows comes from Odin of Norse mythology (hence the name of their Chapter Master being Asagrim Woden).

As for the conversions themselves, I read up on multiple tutorials on B&C, Dakka, and other sites, and then added my own spin to it all (like leaving the inner thigh portion of the armour unfilled, which I find to be aesthetically pleasing..


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Here's Sanctifier Haephestos, the last of the Gallowsmen to die on Petrefax during the fall. Short of his jump pack, he's complete. He was an absolute pain in the ass to paint, but he's still my favourite model in the entire army.

Oh, and for those that have read the fluff, all these guys appear as they would during the fall.





Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/17 10:18:36


Post by: Fafnir


Okay, once more, the third honour gaurd (actually, the fourth modelled, but the third painted). Excluding the jump pack, he's mostly done. I just need to clean up the areas underneath his right armpit and left leg (the wash I use to bring out the mud effects kind of spread the wrong way, probably because the way the limbs are angled).

The goal was to make him look like he's had the gak kicked out of him by something like a Daemon Prince or a Necron Lord or something equally fearsome (hence the massive amount of mud and the broken lightning claw), and instead of retreating, he's about to fire directly into his foe's face with a full on melta. I really did my best to emphasize his eyes, I wanted him to look absolutely terrifying--whatever he's fighting may be the scariest thing in the galaxy, but before he goes, he's going to make it scared of him.

Anyway, as far as mud effects go, this guy is way over the top. Where as the first three Gallowsmen had only one layer of mud, and the second three have two layers, this guy has four.

I'm sorry for the poor quality of the lighting in these pics, the light bulb in my room burnt out, and matainence staff are taking their sweet time fixing it. That lamp is the only light I have in my room.





Oh, and if the new topic heading is worrying you about the future use of mud on the rest of my army, worry not. I only plan to use two layers on the majority of the rest of the army.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/17 18:48:01


Post by: crazypsyko666


It might just be the picture, but you may want to make the eyes brighter, if the emphasis is on that. Anyways, it looks fantastic, as always. How big are these guys compared to standard SM? You said they were truescale, right?


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/17 18:54:02


Post by: Fafnir


Here's a comparison. It's a pretty significant difference.



Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/17 22:33:11


Post by: crazypsyko666


Fafnir wrote:Here's a comparison. It's a pretty significant difference.

Wow. That's quite a difference.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/17 22:41:37


Post by: Fafnir


I figured that the average GW model represents a 6"/183cm tall person, so the marines are modelled to be around 8"/244cm.

In other words, once they actually get on the table, they are very intimidating.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/17 23:09:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


now with the comparrison shot we can really say how awsome looking they are... with just the character shots one can only say they look really good and all, but now the true size comes clear and whoa...this is a stomping marine^^

every IG or xenos worth its salt would wet his pants when such a marine would pass him by^^

vik


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/17 23:15:50


Post by: Archmagos_Amadeus


Seconded. These guys are awesome. Each model simply drips with character, menace and badassery.

Excellent work


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/17 23:46:14


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


Fafnir, today I raided my bitsbox and made an overloaded (and converted) sm. He's still GW scale, but he's badass.
So as not to jack your thread, I'll pm you a link if you want to see him ( when I post the pics)


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/17 23:50:23


Post by: Reaper Man 2020


The true scale of these marines is great! You didn't really get the right impression of the scale until you saw the comparison photo!


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/18 01:00:35


Post by: Fafnir


Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Fafnir, today I raided my bitsbox and made an overloaded (and converted) sm. He's still GW scale, but he's badass.
So as not to jack your thread, I'll pm you a link if you want to see him ( when I post the pics)


Sure, send'em over.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/18 06:54:38


Post by: Stroganoff


Fafnir wrote:Here's Sanctifier Haephestos, the last of the Gallowsmen to die on Petrefax during the fall. Short of his jump pack, he's complete. He was an absolute pain in the ass to paint, but he's still my favourite model in the entire army.


The ones we love the most are the ones who cause us the most pain... I used to think that expression only applied to women, but I guess it fits minis as well


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/22 09:13:37


Post by: Fafnir


Well, I completed the Chapter Master, Asagrim Woden, and the last of the honour gaurd.

The bad news... it's been almost a week and matainence still hasn't fixed my freaking light, so all my pictures look like washed-out crap (the basic armour tones look fine with my lamp, but it does nothing but destroy the skin tones). I've tried using the light in the common room, but it's not much better. That said, a glimpse is better than nothing.

Anyway, first up, the big man himself, Asagrim Woden. He's suffered most from the poor lighting. All the detail on his face is pretty much destroyed by the piss poor lighting. I have to say though, in person, he looks amazing, and I'm surprised he looks as good as he does.

(IMAGES REMOVED, check next page)


Next up, the last of the honour gaurd. Still have to do the jump packs for three of 'em, but other than that, I'm on to the Executioners.

Note the missing right eye. Poor guy must have tripped onto something pointy.



Lastly, a pick of Woden and his Honour Gaurd all together. Pretty tight fit, but they all look pretty scary.



Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/22 09:25:38


Post by: SilverMK2


Looking good. They definately look more proportional when next to standard size models.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/22 13:37:35


Post by: Commander Cain


Very intimidating indeed! The lighting really does not do the models justice however so I will refrain from commenting on the painting until I can see them better. Fantastic work!


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/22 22:01:20


Post by: Fafnir


Here are some much better pics of Woden, taken with some daylight.





Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/22 22:08:00


Post by: Viktor von Domm


the weathered effects on the mini are so good, that given the oportunity to held it in my hand i would feel the urge to wash my hand afterwards^^...seriously the daylight brought out lots of lost detail... the head looks really good and gives a good reference to his namesake...
i like the powersword, the energy effect is really nice and you see this color choice not so often...

cheers, vik


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/22 22:15:42


Post by: Fafnir


The colour scheme for the power weapons is actually a way of easily telling what's what from a distance (with the colours so muted, it can be difficult pointint out exactly what's what from far away if you're not used to looking at them).

Orange are power weapons
Blue are lightning claws/stormshields/thunder hammers

That way, it'll be really easy to pick out what weapons are being used during massed assaults.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/22 22:18:07


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that sounds like a clever idea...helps your oponent and you too...


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/22 23:46:52


Post by: Reaper Man 2020


Great pics of your model in daylight, I can't wait to see all of them in better lighting conditions!


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/23 00:28:27


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Hi Fafnir
not sure if anyone else has the same problem but have redX for the first four pics.

Liking what I can see lots, really nice work!

ps Agree, the colour ID is a good move! might have to adopt and adapt that idea.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/23 00:38:16


Post by: Fafnir


Yep, the first four pics were retaken on this page... except as two pics. They were unsatisfactory and were deleted.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/23 00:57:27


Post by: kestral


I like your theme a great deal - congratulations on coming up with a novel idea and executing it well - rare in space marine armies, IMHO.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/23 21:21:23


Post by: Fafnir


Well, they fixed the lights, and they're wonderful. Even better than before (flourescent! no more yellow glow!).

So, in celebration, here's a few new pics of Woden, showing him in his full glory. I altered his face a bit to make him look more sickly to better fit his fluff (which has been newly added to the Gallowsmen fluff topic, which you can read by clicking here)





Also, here's the powerfist executioner. After going for almost 5 months without paint, he finally gets some love.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/23 22:13:26


Post by: Reaper Man 2020


Wow really different with proper light, I had the impression that the colours were quite muted but it is not the case. Love the army!


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/24 06:02:41


Post by: Lord Kaesar II


Woah... they actually have more colour than dirty! Now that I can actually see the grey... that's some nice stuff. And Woden is looking nice, but there's something about the Executioner I can't quite name... maybe the MK VIII plate he's wearing just seems more like some tube top than anything, showing the mechanics between that and the belt... But! Still liking your take on truescale


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/24 06:20:15


Post by: CrashUSAR


I demand more angles of the power fist marine.

Everything else, just amazing. I wish I had the patience to true-scale some marines...and the painting skills to do it justice.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/24 07:36:29


Post by: Fafnir


Lord Kaesar II wrote:Woah... they actually have more colour than dirty! Now that I can actually see the grey... that's some nice stuff. And Woden is looking nice, but there's something about the Executioner I can't quite name... maybe the MK VIII plate he's wearing just seems more like some tube top than anything, showing the mechanics between that and the belt... But! Still liking your take on truescale


He was one of the prototypes, so he does look a bit... off. He was meant to be a really bulky redesign. I decided to not use the look in the end because it just took way too long to make one marine.

I'll provide more pictures of him with my next update.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/25 15:27:04


Post by: tipios


Great to see them painted, I love the weathering.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/26 05:37:31


Post by: Fafnir


Here's the guy that was supposed to be my count-as lemartes. You may notice that I replaced his head. That's because, when painted, his head looked eerily like Gary Busey. Needless to say, it had to be changed. Overall, I'm not happy with how he came out. For some reason, the washes ended up flowing all wrong and drying rediculously poorly. I think it's the primer. I've been using Vallejo white brush-on primer because the weather's been so rediculous lately (I can barely walk sometimes, let alone prime), and it's been pretty hard to get the right amount of water to primer. The worst part is that I can't really strip him and repaint, because I'm afraid I'll damage the greenstuff. For some reason, the washes just look horrible. I'd consider this poor sucker ruined, but I need him for the tourney. I tried to cover up as much of the model with mud as possible, but it's not going to get everything. I figure this guy and the other executioner I have to paint (because I primed him at the same time) will end up costing me major points in the painting judging. There's nothing I can do about it now either.
He was originally supposed to count as my Lemartes, but I'll just have him count as one of the normal Executioners (Death Company), and have the High Executioner from the first post replace him for stomping duties. Most people mistaken him for Lemartes anyway, because of his tall base, so it's a functional change too.





On a slightly more positive note, more pics of the Executioner from a few days ago. Once again, he's a prototype build, so his body looks considerably different from the other marines. I'm a fan of the overall look, but I can't justify the time spent converting each one to look like him.



Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2011/02/26 10:13:59


Post by: crazypsyko666


I may have to convince a friend of mine to photoshop Gary Busey on the head of that assault marine...


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2012/03/30 15:05:30


Post by: chuckwilliams


Fafnir wrote:It's a ceremonial blade used for debowling (amoung other things) fallen foes.


ROFL... I read this as "a ceremonial blade for Tebowing"



Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2012/03/30 16:08:33


Post by: Fafnir


As much as I appreciate my topics getting attention, this blog is well over a year old and was finished that long ago.

Unless there's some relevant discussion concerning my truescales, I would advise against necroposting in the topic. Especially if it's just to post a picture exemplifying a meme.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2012/03/30 16:16:27


Post by: chuckwilliams


just found this thread, as I've been going through hundreds of pages of "Your best conversion model". As I was only two pages into your thread, I missed the fact that I was necroposting.

So, as far as attention, your modelling is superlative.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2012/04/06 12:54:05


Post by: TiB


You did kinda leave everyone hanging without a full army shot .


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2012/04/06 19:27:45


Post by: Fafnir


Well, there was a thread in the showcase for that.

Oh well...





It's quite difficult to get a complete shot of the entire army all together, simply because they're so BIG.


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2012/04/12 06:27:01


Post by: Wolf_Ov_The_Void


Awesome stuff! consider me subbed man!


Re:16 Gallowsmen in one month (truescale marines) (update: FEB 25, more executioners) @ 2012/04/12 16:48:52


Post by: neil101


super stuff Fafnir , love the weathering .. and the addition of the bells.