They look dumb, sound dumb, their technology is sub-par. How have they not been killed off yet?? They're the equivalent of cavemen. Whenever I hear their illiteracy I want to wipe them off the face of the universe.
So, what race do you dislike?

I dont like them much too. Their spines annoy me so much. Its their models that ruin it for me the most.

I do enjoy killing them though. A lot.

Battle Sisters. :[ Great potential ruined by onedimensional writing and boobplate.

I really, really hate Blood Angels. The impracticality of shoving huge wings onto your backpack is staggering. Their blood drop motif is overdone, the Death Company kit has too much bling, their fluff is dumb and they should've been purged by the Inquisition for their multiple heresies.

Space Wolves.

Honourable mention to BA.

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Tau, even before they were OP.

Stupid fish horse looking weirdos.

Sisters. Dark Angels. Don't ask for explanation

To answer your question, Orks *Aren't. Stupid.* That's a commom misconception about them. They aren't idiots, just very single-minded and pretty much free of ambition or want as long as there's a good fight. Since humans can't figure out how their technology works, it's impossible to tell exactly how advanced the Ork gear is, but generally they at least come close to imperial-level weaponry and equipment. They may not care about aesthetics or the environment or uniformity, but their gear works just fine.

That being said... I kinda like all the armies, really. I have a sort of personal indifference towards Dark Angels (Their codex is feth,) but that's not hate so much as slight annoyance.

I hate the tau, but its mostly because of whats going on with my local meta being over run by a blue ocean of them.

My real pick comes between Necrons and Tyranids. Probably Necrons because of how overpowered they are in the fluff.

 Blacksails wrote:
Space Wolves.

Honourable mention to BA.

These guys don't make much sense to me either. Imperial fists are the cool guys.

Tyranids. "Giant ugly space bugs that are totally gonna eat everything and outnumber everyone else a billion to one! OMG"

"Yawn. Okay, seen it about a billion times. Anything interesting about em?"

"Well they're a big hive mind, so there aren't really any special individuals."

"That makes them boring, not interesting. Anything else?"

"Well, there are genestealer cults, but GW doesn't talk about them and they haven't had an army in forever."

I actually like pretty much all the other armies mentioned so far.

I don't "hate" any faction. What I do hate, though, is the sophomoric plot contrivances that have to be engineered to keep some of them viable. This is sometimes just called "plot armor", but either way it's the same results.

Tau and Space Wolves are the most-prominent examples of this.

Daemons are odd to me, are they apart of Chaos? What's they're deal? They just seem kind of irrelevant to me.

I actually like all races, altough I dislike the anime-style robots of the Tau. Those large disk-shaped hats are pretty silly too. Otherwise they are quite cool.

 poppa G wrote:
Daemons are odd to me, are they apart of Chaos? What's they're deal? They just seem kind of irrelevant to me.

More Chaos than Chaos Space Marines will ever hope to be.

Oh, yes. Daemons. I change my vote to daemons. worst. army. models look terrible, and I hate facing them.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I really, really hate Blood Angels. The impracticality of shoving huge wings onto your backpack is staggering. Their blood drop motif is overdone, the Death Company kit has too much bling, their fluff is dumb and they should've been purged by the Inquisition for their multiple heresies.

Wow...just...wow.

What "heresies" exactly have they committed aside from suffering from the Red Thirst? The Blood Angels have a long and distinguished history in battle and they have been nothing but loyal. Even during the Black Rage they relive the last moments of Sanguinius, who was right up there with the most loyal of Primarchs, and in this state they believe they are fighting ENEMIES OF THE EMPEROR. The Blood Angels are a very large reason that Armageddon was an Imperial Victory (Dante having taken command when he arrived.) Chapter Master Dante is one of the most revered and respected Space Marines in the Imperium. There have been additional foundings of the BA that have been labeled heretic, and the Flesh Tearers are very close, but the First Founding Blood Angels are nowhere NEAR heretical. They have been investigated many times by the Inquisition and found to be loyal. They are bloodthirsty yes, and the Red Thirst has been proven to be a liability at times, but it has won them more battles than it has led to them turning on their own. Have you even read any Blood Angels fluff or are you just pulling your statements out of thin air because they happen to be the weak codex right now?

Incidentally I think that the reason that the Orks continue to thrive is because overall they are a very resilient species and there are literally BILLIONS of them like...EVERYWHERE lol!

And now I've read that you were messing around and feel like a total arseface

I only really use mech BA, so the SG and DC I don't use that much, but I do like the way the DC look and the SG are pretty cool, but not great.

Space Wolves.

We get it guys, you like wolves.

DA suck so hard a chapter and a bunch of successors that will sacrifice millions so they can capture and torture one guy.

Back stabbing gits need squaring.

 Wilytank wrote:

 poppa G wrote:
Daemons are odd to me, are they apart of Chaos? What's they're deal? They just seem kind of irrelevant to me.

More Chaos than Chaos Space Marines will ever hope to be.

To follow this up, I don't like Chaos Space Marine fluff, especially after comparing it to WHFB Warriors of Chaos' fluff. Chaos Marines just come across as angst ridden compared to how totally not angst ridden Warriors of Chaos are.

I actually really like all races, but my least most favorite has to be Nids, not because they're stupid or whatever, but they just don't fit my style. I like personality and individual heroics.

 Sparkadia wrote:
Space Wolves.

We get it guys, you like wolves.

Yeah I'm gonna second this. Their models always looked so silly to me and like they're trying way too hard to be ~badass vikings~ ( Space Marines riding wolves, lol ) and of course those crazy hairdos.

I'm gonna get a LOT of flak for this, and I know that 40K is full of over-the-top armies and lore, but Space Wolves just really take the cake for me.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Battle Sisters. :[ Great potential ruined by onedimensional writing and boobplate.

 poppa G wrote:
They look dumb, sound dumb, their technology is sub-par. How have they not been killed off yet?? They're the equivalent of cavemen. Whenever I hear their illiteracy I want to wipe them off the face of the universe.
So, what race do you dislike?

I am not sure if it has been mentioned but I don't think Orks can ever really be killed off. They spread almost like dandelions so stomping out some only means more are on the way even if it takes years.

I hate Space Wolves and Tau. They both don't seem to fit in the game at all.

Tau are just not grimdark at all. Nuff said.

Space Wolves with Sir Wolfiness on his giant wolf with wolf teeth around his neck with a wolf pelt on his back with a weapon that is the exact same as other space marines' but is called a "wolf claw". They're just so dumb to me.


On the whole Ork thing, they are definitely grimdark. However, most people think of them as the token dorky race (like droids in Star Wars) when in fact they are savage beasts with an innate sense of technology.

Come to think of it, I dont like any race except humans. All of them are bland to me. So for me its just humans with the occasional Xenos merc squad.

Orks exhibit every trait and behavior real life racists attribute to "lesser races": Violent, primitive, dumb, foul and ugly... And yet they are one of the most successful species in 40k by a far cry.

Personally, I think they're written as a covert pun on racism.

But if I'm given the chance of being racist towards a 40k ethnic group, I'd say... Astartes. The Imperium can do without an army of bioengineered abominations who take the slightest chance to betray their parent species and rightful masters. For the good of mankind, they had better been put to the stake.

Chaos Daemons. I pretty much hate everything about that army. They were the beginning of the end of a quality Chaos Marine army that wasn't going to be just spiky marines.

Honorable mention to BA. I've just disliked them the most of all of the SM chapters.

I never could get behind the Tau when they came out. The necrons bothered me less, but never really cared for them either.

But, I hate the dark eldar...they are just so one - dimensionally evil that they make me want to wretch. They eat, sleep, and poo torture. They are as singular in their selfish soul sucking evil as any tyranids swarm in it's hunger.


Even the space marines show more variety in motivation, character, and levels of moral gray area. I am definitely racist against dark eldar. Hate em'.

Know what bugs me about Orks?

The Imperium hasn't tried neutron bombs on them yet. : /

Nor have they attempted to engineer a bioweapon which targets their DNA and eradicates them, but leaves everything else alive. Sure, they've used vir- Gonna capitalize that -Virus Bombs, but only as Exterminatus, and generally they're incredibly indiscriminate weapons.

Well, being both an Ork player and Chaos player, I guess I always disliked Imperials and other Xenos from a fluff point of view (but always like fighting them). Im a Nurgle player also, so I naturally developed the appropriate distain for any Tzeentch units.

I also Abhor the Witch. Psychic Powers are annoying. Do you REALLY need more re-rolls?

 Pouncey wrote:
Know what bugs me about Orks?

The Imperium hasn't tried neutron bombs on them yet. : /

Nor have they attempted to engineer a bioweapon which targets their DNA and eradicates them, but leaves everything else alive. Sure, they've used vir- Gonna capitalize that -Virus Bombs, but only as Exterminatus, and generally they're incredibly indiscriminate weapons.

Wasn't that what Inquisitor Drogan was researching in Space Marine?

Not so much hate, but roll my eyes at, is chaos. Yes you can do all sorts of funky stuff and grow a third arm because your empowered by one, or four gods chillin in the warp. But just tone down the whole, hey look at me, I can shoot fire balls from my arse and do all types of vodoo. If they're so fan-tidily-tastic then how come they're not sittin pretty and have the Daemon-Punk Primarchs hiding in the eye with only a few jaunts out into the wider world in ten-thousand years?

Eldar...

Just because I've never, EVER beaten an Eldar army.

Since all the way back in Rogue Trader.

They are also the only army I've never collected.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Orks exhibit every trait and behavior real life racists attribute to "lesser races": Violent, primitive, dumb, foul and ugly... And yet they are one of the most successful species in 40k by a far cry.

Personally, I think they're written as a covert pun on racism.

Pus they have non-white skin.

Tyranids, they're so boring.

I don't really HATE any of the races, but I heavily dislike Nids, dunno why.

Oldcrons were one of my favourite armies, even if they were metal tyranids. Newcrons fluff doesn't really bother me much, though the incredibly OP stuff I just flat out ignore.

Orks are also one of my favourite races... but I can see why you'd dislike them (even if I don't think of them as stupid, their just a tad simplistic and brutish)

Waaaghpower wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Orks exhibit every trait and behavior real life racists attribute to "lesser races": Violent, primitive, dumb, foul and ugly... And yet they are one of the most successful species in 40k by a far cry.

Personally, I think they're written as a covert pun on racism.

Pus they have non-white skin.

No kidding, I used to know a guy who called them "Space *racial slur starting with the letter "n"*". He also believed 40k was some sort of prophecy for the coming racial holy war. Probably one of the most "interesting" characters I've ever played against

Eldar. "Egotistical Space Elves"
Dark Angels. "Unreliable and selfish at best, heretics and traitors at worst."

Demons, on looks alone.

The Tau - Brainwashed-Fascist space communists.

Their tanks look ugly as sin, and their rules are annoying as all hell.

Plus, their gunline, nothing but shooting playstyle, attracts the worst sort of players, and leads to boring games where they just shoot their opponent off the table. Then get all pissy when you make it into combat with their beloved broadsides.

I take the most enjoyment in multi-assaulting that gunline, simultaneously sweeping two units from behind their precious Aegis.

 Murdius Maximus wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
Know what bugs me about Orks?

The Imperium hasn't tried neutron bombs on them yet. : /

Nor have they attempted to engineer a bioweapon which targets their DNA and eradicates them, but leaves everything else alive. Sure, they've used vir- Gonna capitalize that -Virus Bombs, but only as Exterminatus, and generally they're incredibly indiscriminate weapons.

Wasn't that what Inquisitor Drogan was researching in Space Marine?

Is it?

I never played that game. Single player video games aren't my thing - never did finish Warcraft III's campaign, and the only Dawn of War I've played has been to go into Skirmish and just slaughter the crap out of a bunch of the easiest mode of AI players in a 3+me VS 4 - and when I looked up Total Biscuit's video of Space Marine's multiplayer right after I watched his first video of its singleplayer, well, that sudden jump from, "HOLY CRAP THIS IS THE MOST AWESOME FORTY KAY GAME EVER!!!!!" to "Ugh this stuff is so sucky and, and just.... ugh." really put me off of playing it. Looking forward to Eternal Crusade though.

Tau. Honestly, get your science fiction out of my space horror.

Not a big fan of space marines either, aside from a few of the darker chapters - Black Templar for instance.

Don't like Orks in the slightest, either.

Then its the Necrons

The rest is mostly fine, but the SW are coming as a bit annoying the more I learn about them and their shenanigans

I actually really like Tau.
I wanted to start an army of them but it seems like the last thing the meta needs is another Tau player.

I hate the orks too. Maybe its just because my best friend plays orks and my eldar are tired of killing them. All of them over and over. No matter how many you kill there is still more.

I like all the factions, but I think the "WOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLF" aspect of the Space Wolves needs to be toned down.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Orks exhibit every trait and behavior real life racists attribute to "lesser races": Violent, primitive, dumb, foul and ugly... And yet they are one of the most successful species in 40k by a far cry.

Personally, I think they're written as a covert pun on racism.

But if I'm given the chance of being racist towards a 40k ethnic group, I'd say... Astartes. The Imperium can do without an army of bioengineered abominations who take the slightest chance to betray their parent species and rightful masters. For the good of mankind, they had better been put to the stake.

Bro this deserves an exalt. I think you've nailed one of the main reasons I love Orks - the fact that they are portrayed as so inferior like this, yet kick so much ass! Really takes the wind out of the sails of Eldar, Space Marines, and other elites, to get crushed by a stinking tide of greenskins

 Musashi363 wrote:
Demons, on looks alone.

I'll admit that some of GW's Daemon models are ugly (I loathe the GW Keeper of Secrets), but that's just an opportunity to make some awesome conversions. That's why I love all things Chaos. They're a converter's Vallhalla. Never build anything like it came in the box! Also, the newer models for the basic bloodletters/daemonettes/horrors look pretty sweet, in my opinion. If you don't build something cheesetastic like Screamerstar, the rules make for some dang fun games too.

I guess we'll all have to put up with it, because however much we may hate a particular race, it's someone's favorite. Even Tyranids, much as I think it gets boring when the fluff shifts focus to the latest Hive Fleet invasion, is someone's favorite army, and I won't begrudge them of that.

Orcs are very british , so it isn't hard to dislike them

Pretty much dislike everything about Sisters. Their fluff, aesthetics and the way they play.

Not a fan of Slaneesh either.

While I don't hate any of the other Imperial Factions, I prefer every Xenos faction over them.

Kroot -> Tyranids -> Orks -> Tzeentch -> Necrons -> Eldar -> Nurgle & Khorne -> Dark Eldar -> Tau -> Dkok -> Grey Knights / Minotaurs / Deathwing -> Space Marines / Imperial Guard -> Space Wolves / Blood Angels -> Sisters -> Slaneesh.

I hate slaneesh. Its nothing to do with the idea of them at all, just that GW is uncomfortable with their own ip, and show how lame they are by reflection. GW needs to flesh them out and if the sex drugs and rock and roll angle is too much, they need to ret-con them into something they feel safe touching.

The music bright colors, combat drugs, and rage/dance/art angle is there, burried they just need to figure out how they're going to twist it into an angle they don't feel awkward handling.

I don't really dislike any of the armies. I think they all add something to the setting and each have their charms.

I guess I'm much less interested in some than the others, but certainly no hate.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Battle Sisters. :[ Great potential ruined by onedimensional writing and boobplate.

Well, they're hardly defined by their boobplate. The writing thing is subjective, myself and others really like their writing, but I can understand why others wouldn't.

 Musashi363 wrote:
Demons, on looks alone.

Some of their models are a bit unsettling. Especially those creepy Plaguebearers. But I see this as fitting their fluff, myself.

I most dislike Tau and Imperial Guard.

Tau are really irritating fluff-wise. They are a tiny little empire, yet they have loads of players - there must be more Crisis Suits and Firewarrior models than the Tau Empire has soldiers. This makes it a total chore to write their players into any kind of a narrative effort. I mean, I like the idea of writing a story for a game set in the 36th millenium and stuff, you know, away from the 999.40 business. But oh no... Tau Empire! Only exist in the last ten seconds of the fluff!

Also their play style is quite negative, and I tire of the endless shooting phases. They were more entertaining last edition, simply because I felt that the game balance wasn't so skewed in favour of them shooting me to bits.

Then there is the Imperial Guard. The main thing that annoys me about them is the players. You can hardly move on forums for IG players busy trumpeting about how AWESOME and WONDERFUL it is to play REAL NORMAL PEOPLE. Whatever guys. It is just this vague sense of their players being unreasonably proud of their background, in a way that other players tend not to be. Along with Ork and Ultramarine players, they also tend to be the guys who collect ninety five and a half thousand points of one army, mostly unpainted, which they will then tell you about in great and agonising detail. Their playstyle also seems sadly dull as soup - stand still, shoot, don't dare move an inch from your deployment - but I will admit that they die like champions which makes them quite entertaining to play against. Blob squads are like the dream Burnawagon/Dakkajet targets. It is a shame, because I really like their vehicles (not the Chimera though) and always fancied a Steel Legion army back in 3rd.

But you know what, guys? This doesn't matter. I happily play everyone, and the only time that I look sad to play any particular army is when it is triptide or Wave Serpent spam, neither of which I have any real chance against. So you know, all that bit I wrote above is just idle thinking, and hardly reflective of what I actually get up to. Nice to get some steam out though, right?

 Troike wrote:

Well, they're hardly defined by their boobplate. The writing thing is subjective, myself and others really like their writing, but I can understand why others wouldn't.

Their armour is too form-fitting overall to look like it protects decently well. It just looks thin, and the implications that it would offer equal protection to the bulkier SM armour just seem implausible.

Before you ask, yes, I think BA shares this problem, but at least it is not on every single Marine.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Murdius Maximus wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
Know what bugs me about Orks?

The Imperium hasn't tried neutron bombs on them yet. : /

Nor have they attempted to engineer a bioweapon which targets their DNA and eradicates them, but leaves everything else alive. Sure, they've used vir- Gonna capitalize that -Virus Bombs, but only as Exterminatus, and generally they're incredibly indiscriminate weapons.

Wasn't that what Inquisitor Drogan was researching in Space Marine?

Is it?

I never played that game. Single player video games aren't my thing - never did finish Warcraft III's campaign, and the only Dawn of War I've played has been to go into Skirmish and just slaughter the crap out of a bunch of the easiest mode of AI players in a 3+me VS 4 - and when I looked up Total Biscuit's video of Space Marine's multiplayer right after I watched his first video of its singleplayer, well, that sudden jump from, "HOLY CRAP THIS IS THE MOST AWESOME FORTY KAY GAME EVER!!!!!" to "Ugh this stuff is so sucky and, and just.... ugh." really put me off of playing it. Looking forward to Eternal Crusade though.

No, it was a faux. Drogan was possessed by a daemon and the 'research' was him wanting to open a warp rift.

Also wat is up with those boobs? E.E

Sisters of Battle.

They're completely ineffectual and die in droves. Such a waste of power armour.

The only reason why I give Grey Knights a pass is because of this.

Honourable mentions to:

Eldar (ugly)
Tau (overpowered, boring to oppose, noblebright weeaboos)
Space Wolves (lazy nomenclature, the "fething metal" wolf theme is so bourgeois, my main two races have low initiative)
Salamanders (ugly colour scheme, people like them and I don't know why)
Crimson Fists (see: Salamanders)
White Scars (they're goddamn Mongorians, also, see: Salamanders)
Thousand Sons (see: Salamanders)
Raven Guard (see: Salamanders)
Imperial Knights (see: Eldar)

 Charles Rampant wrote:
I most dislike Tau and Imperial Guard.

Tau are really irritating fluff-wise. They are a tiny little empire, yet they have loads of players - there must be more Crisis Suits and Firewarrior models than the Tau Empire has soldiers. This makes it a total chore to write their players into any kind of a narrative effort. I mean, I like the idea of writing a story for a game set in the 36th millenium and stuff, you know, away from the 999.40 business. But oh no... Tau Empire! Only exist in the last ten seconds of the fluff!

Also their play style is quite negative, and I tire of the endless shooting phases. They were more entertaining last edition, simply because I felt that the game balance wasn't so skewed in favour of them shooting me to bits.

Then there is the Imperial Guard. The main thing that annoys me about them is the players. You can hardly move on forums for IG players busy trumpeting about how AWESOME and WONDERFUL it is to play REAL NORMAL PEOPLE. Whatever guys. It is just this vague sense of their players being unreasonably proud of their background, in a way that other players tend not to be. Along with Ork and Ultramarine players, they also tend to be the guys who collect ninety five and a half thousand points of one army, mostly unpainted, which they will then tell you about in great and agonising detail. Their playstyle also seems sadly dull as soup - stand still, shoot, don't dare move an inch from your deployment - but I will admit that they die like champions which makes them quite entertaining to play against. Blob squads are like the dream Burnawagon/Dakkajet targets. It is a shame, because I really like their vehicles (not the Chimera though) and always fancied a Steel Legion army back in 3rd.

But you know what, guys? This doesn't matter. I happily play everyone, and the only time that I look sad to play any particular army is when it is triptide or Wave Serpent spam, neither of which I have any real chance against. So you know, all that bit I wrote above is just idle thinking, and hardly reflective of what I actually get up to. Nice to get some steam out though, right?

Small is relative, there's likely tens if not hundreds of trillions of individuals under the banner of T'au. Much like how the Eldar are considered to have a small population even though individual craftworlds hold billions of people and Commorragh probably hosts tens of trillions.

So yes the Tau are small, but in terms of scale; by our standards they're still enormous. Given that the Tau and their Allies also seem to be rather militarized, their military is also probably a large body with billions if not trillions of standing soldiers, not including Gue'vesa, Kroot, Vespid, and other auxiliaries or allied polities and trading partners.

I don't like eldar tbh. Their fluff just seems like it makes no sense. They have magical powers that flow from warp gates and I have no idea what I'm talking about anyway. But anyway, the only thing I like is the aspects, but even there I don't like any one aspect a lot. I started off with a Khorne CSM army, so the idea of specialized groups is there for me, but still...

 Kain wrote:

 Charles Rampant wrote:
I most dislike Tau and Imperial Guard.

Tau are really irritating fluff-wise. They are a tiny little empire, yet they have loads of players - there must be more Crisis Suits and Firewarrior models than the Tau Empire has soldiers. This makes it a total chore to write their players into any kind of a narrative effort. I mean, I like the idea of writing a story for a game set in the 36th millenium and stuff, you know, away from the 999.40 business. But oh no... Tau Empire! Only exist in the last ten seconds of the fluff!

Small is relative, there's likely tens if not hundreds of trillions of individuals under the banner of T'au. Much like how the Eldar are considered to have a small population even though individual craftworlds hold billions of people and Commorragh probably hosts tens of trillions.

So yes the Tau are small, but in terms of scale; by our standards they're still enormous. Given that the Tau and their Allies also seem to be rather militarized, their military is also probably a large body with billions if not trillions of standing soldiers, not including Gue'vesa, Kroot, Vespid, and other auxiliaries or allied polities and trading partners.

Another way to put things in perspective: there are more Tau in that "tiny empire" than there are Space Marines in the galaxy. Billions more. And no matter how many Tau players there are out there, I guarantee you Space Marine players outnumber them many times over.

If it isn't a chore to write stories for all these battles where the same few chapters of Marines are all over the galaxy fighting multiple threats at once, and even fighting each other, then I don't see how Tau make things any more difficult.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Their armour is too form-fitting overall to look like it protects decently well. It just looks thin, and the implications that it would offer equal protection to the bulkier SM armour just seem implausible.

Though, as the fluff says, the Marine Armour does have lots of extra gubbins built in. As for form-fitting, maybe. But I'm happy with the overall aesthetic of it, so I'm not too fussed.

 Blackhair Duckshape wrote:
Sisters of Battle.

They're completely ineffectual and die in droves. Such a waste of power armour.

Nah. The whole "dying in droves" thing is just a common misconception. Probably due to the Bloodtide fluff getting so much attention. There's actually plenty of fluff where they're plenty effective and win some significant battles.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Orks exhibit every trait and behavior real life racists attribute to "lesser races": Violent, primitive, dumb, foul and ugly... And yet they are one of the most successful species in 40k by a far cry.

Personally, I think they're written as a covert pun on racism.

Brilliant. You can even take it a step further when you realize that it is solely their genetics that allow them to be arguably the most resilient race in the galaxy. To contrast it, here in the real world people tried to use genetics to prove the inferiority of certain peoples, but here in 40k we have the barbarians who can survive and thrive solely because of their advantages programmed into them (spore reproduction, genetically encoded knowledge)

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Makumba wrote:
Orcs are very british , so it isn't hard to dislike them

That sounds very narrow minded of you. I guess you think we all drink tiffin at four, or hang around on street corners drinking and mugging old ladies. You need to wise up and gain some prospective before you throw around comments like that.

There is no race or faction I particlalry hate from 40k. There are obviously some I like or dislike more than others though. Necrosis are probably my least favourite,

Makumba wrote:
Orcs are very british , so it isn't hard to dislike them

No longer content with fictional racism I see.

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:

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Makumba wrote:
Orcs are very british , so it isn't hard to dislike them

That sounds very narrow minded of you. I guess you think we all drink tiffin at four, or hang around on street corners drinking and mugging old ladies. You need to wise up and gain some prospective before you throw around comments like that.

Hey, aren't you supposed to be too busy drinking tea to worry about that?

 carlos13th wrote:
There is no race or faction I particlalry hate from 40k. There are obviously some I like or dislike more than others though. Necrosis are probably my least favourite,

Makumba wrote:
Orcs are very british , so it isn't hard to dislike them

No longer content with fictional racism I see.

He isn't racist, he just dislikes British. There is nothing wrong about disliking the British.
Altough I do wonder how it is possible to dislike the people who invented fish and chips and are all around awesome Britain is probably my second-favorite country in the world.

I also don't really like the Grey Knights. There is just nothing interesting about them, they are very much like the colour they are named after.

 Sidstyler wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Charles Rampant wrote:
I most dislike Tau and Imperial Guard.

Tau are really irritating fluff-wise. They are a tiny little empire, yet they have loads of players - there must be more Crisis Suits and Firewarrior models than the Tau Empire has soldiers. This makes it a total chore to write their players into any kind of a narrative effort. I mean, I like the idea of writing a story for a game set in the 36th millenium and stuff, you know, away from the 999.40 business. But oh no... Tau Empire! Only exist in the last ten seconds of the fluff!

Small is relative, there's likely tens if not hundreds of trillions of individuals under the banner of T'au. Much like how the Eldar are considered to have a small population even though individual craftworlds hold billions of people and Commorragh probably hosts tens of trillions.

So yes the Tau are small, but in terms of scale; by our standards they're still enormous. Given that the Tau and their Allies also seem to be rather militarized, their military is also probably a large body with billions if not trillions of standing soldiers, not including Gue'vesa, Kroot, Vespid, and other auxiliaries or allied polities and trading partners.

Another way to put things in perspective: there are more Tau in that "tiny empire" than there are Space Marines in the galaxy. Billions more. And no matter how many Tau players there are out there, I guarantee you Space Marine players outnumber them many times over.

If it isn't a chore to write stories for all these battles where the same few chapters of Marines are all over the galaxy fighting multiple threats at once, and even fighting each other, then I don't see how Tau make things any more difficult.

I personally ignore almost every figure GW, FW, or the BL gives for numbers because I know that they generally have no idea what they're talking about.

FW comes close with some 200 million guard and PDF soldiers at Armanah, but then goofs by saying that a Necron Dynasty of 60 worlds only has 2 million warriors when it was already established that a single tomb world storage chamber can contain hundreds of thousands of necrons and a single tomb world can contain millions of said chambers with ease before you even get into hollowing out the planet.

Slannesh themed daemons…


I doth think i need to explain.

 Archie The Death Rider wrote:
Slannesh themed daemons…


I doth think i need to explain.

Why doth thee speaketh in Elizebethan Englishe?

 Troike wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Their armour is too form-fitting overall to look like it protects decently well. It just looks thin, and the implications that it would offer equal protection to the bulkier SM armour just seem implausible.

Though, as the fluff says, the Marine Armour does have lots of extra gubbins built in. As for form-fitting, maybe. But I'm happy with the overall aesthetic of it, so I'm not too fussed.

 Blackhair Duckshape wrote:
Sisters of Battle.

They're completely ineffectual and die in droves. Such a waste of power armour.

Nah. The whole "dying in droves" thing is just a common misconception. Probably due to the Bloodtide fluff getting so much attention. There's actually plenty of fluff where they're plenty effective and win some significant battles.

I can only think of two times when Sisters died in droves. One was the Bloodtide thing (which while I think could be better, I wish everyone else would just let it go and I play Sisters!) and Sanctuary 101, which was a big Necron victory.

So Blackhair, what other ones are there?

 fallinq wrote:

 Musashi363 wrote:
Demons, on looks alone.

I'll admit that some of GW's Daemon models are ugly (I loathe the GW Keeper of Secrets), but that's just an opportunity to make some awesome conversions. That's why I love all things Chaos. They're a converter's Vallhalla. Never build anything like it came in the box! Also, the newer models for the basic bloodletters/daemonettes/horrors look pretty sweet, in my opinion. If you don't build something cheesetastic like Screamerstar, the rules make for some dang fun games too.

I guess we'll all have to put up with it, because however much we may hate a particular race, it's someone's favorite. Even Tyranids, much as I think it gets boring when the fluff shifts focus to the latest Hive Fleet invasion, is someone's favorite army, and I won't begrudge them of that.

I have to say as a tyranid player the fluff is pretty boring. I love the swarmlord/one eye/deathleaper/doom fluff but everything else fluff wise is a wash of teeth and claws.
I just want to have giant monsters on the field and the nids are the best way to do it.

 Rotary wrote:

 fallinq wrote:

 Musashi363 wrote:
Demons, on looks alone.

I'll admit that some of GW's Daemon models are ugly (I loathe the GW Keeper of Secrets), but that's just an opportunity to make some awesome conversions. That's why I love all things Chaos. They're a converter's Vallhalla. Never build anything like it came in the box! Also, the newer models for the basic bloodletters/daemonettes/horrors look pretty sweet, in my opinion. If you don't build something cheesetastic like Screamerstar, the rules make for some dang fun games too.

I guess we'll all have to put up with it, because however much we may hate a particular race, it's someone's favorite. Even Tyranids, much as I think it gets boring when the fluff shifts focus to the latest Hive Fleet invasion, is someone's favorite army, and I won't begrudge them of that.

I have to say as a tyranid player the fluff is pretty boring. I love the swarmlord/one eye/deathleaper/doom fluff but everything else fluff wise is a wash of teeth and claws.
I just want to have giant monsters on the field and the nids are the best way to do it.

There is no concept that cannot be redeemed by a good enough writer.

The problem is that there aren't any 40k codex writers good enough for it.

I am warning you, there is a serious level of simmering anger behind this post. Might not want to read it unless you're willing to live with that.

Eldar. I absolutely hate them. For one because I hate elves on principle, smug pointy eared bastards (and elder are basically space elves) but for another because of how many "free passes" they get from a lot of people about so many things.

One of the classic complaints I hear about Tau is that they look "too anime". The Eldar wraith lord has bloody sandals and a katana darn it! Plus Eldar aspect warriors are basically Power Ranges. They have random crystals thrown everywhere on their weapons and shoot sparkly rainbow beams at their enemies.Their infantry weapon is a shuriken cannon! Never have I ever heard people complaining that Eldar look "too anime" unless it's a Tau player specifically pointing this out in response to people complaining about our army.

People complain about Draigo being over the top and a complete fluff travesty all the time. Let me introduce you to a guy named Maugan Ra. He single handedly walked into the eye of terror, pulled his craft-world out of it, then decided to run over and kill an entire hive fleet by himself. Do people complain about this being over the top and ridiculous? No!

Finally people complain about Necrons stealing the Eldar's thunder as "the advanced oldest race". Well, in my opinion the Eldar don't count. You know why? Because their "ancient empire" is now the Eye of Terror. They were so messed up that they created a Chaos God. You know how incompetent the Imperium of Man is in 40k? Their empire is still around. Eldar are worse than them. Now an ancient empire that actually had its gak together enough to not rip the universe open on top of their homeworld are starting to emerge and people think they are stealing the Eldar's place. The Eldar don't deserve their place. Let the Necrons have it.

I just wish the last Craft World would die in a fire so those incredibly arrogant remains of a dying race would finally fade into obscurity and leave us in peace.

 poppa G wrote:
They look dumb, sound dumb, their technology is sub-par. How have they not been killed off yet?? They're the equivalent of cavemen. Whenever I hear their illiteracy I want to wipe them off the face of the universe.

WE HAS ARRIVED AND IT IZ NOW DAT WE DOES WHAT DA BOSS SAID TO DO.
IN F...FEA...IN FEALTY TO DA BOSSGODS AND DA GRACE OF DA SHINY GUBBINZ,
I DECLARE DIS GIT ORKZTERMINATUS.
I HEREBY EXPLODE WUN UNORKATIC AND CON...CON..CONSIGN HIS SOUL TO EXPLODY DEFF.
MAY GORK AND MORK ACCOUNT IN ALL DAKKA.
DA BOSSGODS PROTECT.

 Da krimson barun wrote:

 poppa G wrote:
They look dumb, sound dumb, their technology is sub-par. How have they not been killed off yet?? They're the equivalent of cavemen. Whenever I hear their illiteracy I want to wipe them off the face of the universe.

WE HAS ARRIVED AND IT IZ NOW DAT WE DOES WHAT DA BOSS SAID TO DO.
IN F...FEA...IN FEALTY TO DA BOSSGODS AND DA GRACE OF DA SHINY GUBBINZ,
I DECLARE DIS GIT ORKZTERMINATUS.
I HEREBY EXPLODE WUN UNORKATIC AND CON...CON..CONSIGN HIS SOUL TO EXPLODY DEFF.
MAY GORK AND MORK ACCOUNT IN ALL DAKKA.
DA BOSSGODS PROTECT.

...

Have an exalt on me.

 Da krimson barun wrote:

 poppa G wrote:
They look dumb, sound dumb, their technology is sub-par. How have they not been killed off yet?? They're the equivalent of cavemen. Whenever I hear their illiteracy I want to wipe them off the face of the universe.

WE HAS ARRIVED AND IT IZ NOW DAT WE DOES WHAT DA BOSS SAID TO DO.
IN F...FEA...IN FEALTY TO DA BOSSGODS AND DA GRACE OF DA SHINY GUBBINZ,
I DECLARE DIS GIT ORKZTERMINATUS.
I HEREBY EXPLODE WUN UNORKATIC AND CON...CON..CONSIGN HIS SOUL TO EXPLODY DEFF.
MAY GORK AND MORK ACCOUNT IN ALL DAKKA.
DA BOSSGODS PROTECT.

Well, the Greenskin wins. Close the thread, everybody go home, we're finished here.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Their armour is too form-fitting overall to look like it protects decently well. It just looks thin, and the implications that it would offer equal protection to the bulkier SM armour just seem implausible.

It depends on the model/illustration. For instance, that looks bulky enough to me :

I tend to like it more when the armors are drawn as bulky too.

 Troike wrote:

 Blackhair Duckshape wrote:
Sisters of Battle.

They're completely ineffectual and die in droves. Such a waste of power armour.

Nah. The whole "dying in droves" thing is just a common misconception. Probably due to the Bloodtide fluff getting so much attention. There's actually plenty of fluff where they're plenty effective and win some significant battles.

Trollbait ?

This is my favorite picture of SOB. To me, this is how they look. Not form fitting S&M stuff or sexy woman warrior crap. I want hard core, fanatical soldiers.

*Spots boobplate*

*Cringes*

Cannot blame you for that.

I really love the idea that the boobplates aren't actually anatomically necessary and they're really just convenient storage pockets.

"just a second, got to retrieve my prayerbook" *pop*

They're not and they are.

The reason they're there is to amp up the feminine look of the Sister, as a way for the Ecclesiarchy to show off the fact that they are adhering to the Decree Passive.

I like to think they are just the Eccleisarchy's way of saying to the Adeptus Administratum, "hey, you know that law saying how we can't have men as soldiers? Well, our soldiers are women, see? Look, they even have breasts!"

In other words, trolling, 40k style.

The chest piece is probably filled with metal instead flesh, which is what most people seem to think.

EDIT: Ah damn, Psi beat me to it.

 Psienesis wrote:
They're not and they are.

The reason they're there is to amp up the feminine look of the Sister, as a way for the Ecclesiarchy to show off the fact that they are adhering to the Decree Passive.

You have a source on that?

Does not make the look any better. And those are only fanon.


Another picture of a Sister with bulky armor, and a very distinct lack of sexiness :

You may recognize my avatar . This… lovely lady comes right out of Codex : Sisters of Battle, the only one ever printed. Is it not lovely ?
Either this sister has breasts bigger than her head, or those are just armored decoration .

Yeah, I really doubt that all members of the Sororitas are packing DD / EE cups. That are all the same size.

 Psienesis wrote:
They're not and they are.

The reason they're there is to amp up the feminine look of the Sister, as a way for the Ecclesiarchy to show off the fact that they are adhering to the Decree Passive.

The problem is that 'boobplates' would be a terrible idea for armour. Not only is it a unnecessary, but it would in fact be extremely dangerous for the wearer. The purpose of armour is to deflect blows. Those two breasts on the armour could guide an incoming blow straight towards the center of your breastbone. Instant death. http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/05/boob-plate-armor-would-kill-you

Aside from that, I think that boobplates are ugly and sexist. I much prefer hot girls in practical armour instead

Only thing I dont like about sisters are the models... they need some fresh stuff.

This is why I wanted SoB termies.

I have the feeling that GW will soon introduce 'Sororitas Knights', the first super-heavy walkers with boobplate...

 Iron_Captain wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
They're not and they are.

The reason they're there is to amp up the feminine look of the Sister, as a way for the Ecclesiarchy to show off the fact that they are adhering to the Decree Passive.

The problem is that 'boobplates' would be a terrible idea for armour. Not only is it a unnecessary, but it would in fact be extremely dangerous for the wearer. The purpose of armour is to deflect blows. Those two breasts on the armour could guide an incoming blow straight towards the center of your breastbone. Instant death. http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/05/boob-plate-armor-would-kill-you

Aside from that, I think that boobplates are ugly and sexist. I much prefer hot girls in practical armour instead

Except there is a lot of armor on that collar bone, and the uneven surface should be effective against lasbolts and shells. Works for tanks after all.
As I said, I doubt that boob plate is anywhere near the body.
Besides, when has practicality ever stopped the IoM? Putting unnecessary stuff on their soldiers is kind of their MO.

I mean, do titans really need cathedrals? Do starships really need monuments? Do space marines really need rolls of toilet pa- I mean "purity seals" dangling from them?

 Iron_Captain wrote:
The problem is that 'boobplates' would be a terrible idea for armour.

Well, it falls in the same category as the aerodynamics for AA/AS vehicles .

Eldar and Dark Eldar

I don't like them, I don't like their looks or fluff or anything else about either one specifically the Dark Elder (in other words the masturbatory material of a particularly creepy 15 year old).. I also hate elves in fiction pretty much universally (Jarlaxle from the Drizzt series being a notable exception)

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
They're not and they are.

The reason they're there is to amp up the feminine look of the Sister, as a way for the Ecclesiarchy to show off the fact that they are adhering to the Decree Passive.

You have a source on that?

My not-inconsiderable familiarity with female anatomy specifically, especially when compared to the depicted bulk of their armor, even the older-style "corset plate".

But the Sisters of Battle are not universally H-cupped models. There's also the fact that, lacking a Black Carapace, have to wear a "neural interface suit" (think bodyglove, with a bunch of hook-up points on it) in order to make their PA move. That bodyglove keeps everything all nice and snug and in place, while they layer the armor on over it (and you can see it in some SoB art, it's the black bodyglove thing that you can see at their hips and such, under the greaves and cuisse). This being, basically, a skin-tight spandex sort of material, I've heard it described as "kevlon", which is, I assume, a portmanteau of Kevlar and nylon, but Im not sure if that is an in-universe term or something from another source, to keep your various bits together and encased in your Power Armor shell, and to maximize comfort (Sisters still drill to get used to "living" inside their armor for long periods of time).

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Their armour is too form-fitting overall to look like it protects decently well. It just looks thin, and the implications that it would offer equal protection to the bulkier SM armour just seem implausible.

It depends on the model/illustration. For instance, that looks bulky enough to me :

Spoiler:

I tend to like it more when the armors are drawn as bulky too.

 Troike wrote:

 Blackhair Duckshape wrote:
Sisters of Battle.

They're completely ineffectual and die in droves. Such a waste of power armour.

Nah. The whole "dying in droves" thing is just a common misconception. Probably due to the Bloodtide fluff getting so much attention. There's actually plenty of fluff where they're plenty effective and win some significant battles.

Trollbait ?

Not necessarily. Like I said, it is a common misconception. I used to believe it myself before I started properly learning about SoB lore.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
*Spots boobplate*

*Cringes*

Personally, I think the "boobplate" fits in with their aesthetic as a whole. Over the top and ornamental/old fashioned. I wouldn't mind the boobplate going, but what I'd want in its place is something that fit in with that aesthetic just as well. Maybe some sorty of knightly chestplate with lots of decoration? If you were to change it, what would you replace it with?

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
This is why I wanted SoB termies.

Nah, too Space Marine. Let's have Celestian knights instead.

 Troike wrote:

Personally, I think the "boobplate" fits in with their aesthetic as a whole. Over the top and ornamental/old fashioned. I wouldn't mind the boobplate going, but what I'd want in its place is something that fit in with that aesthetic just as well. Maybe some sorty of knightly chestplate with lots of decoration? If you were to change it, what would you replace it with?

You answered your own question.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

 Troike wrote:

Personally, I think the "boobplate" fits in with their aesthetic as a whole. Over the top and ornamental/old fashioned. I wouldn't mind the boobplate going, but what I'd want in its place is something that fit in with that aesthetic just as well. Maybe some sorty of knightly chestplate with lots of decoration? If you were to change it, what would you replace it with?

You answered your own question.

Wow, we agree on something about the Sisters, for once.

It'd go very well with their space sallet, come to think of it.

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:


That sounds very narrow minded of you. I guess you think we all drink tiffin at four, or hang around on street corners drinking and mugging old ladies. You need to wise up and gain some prospective before you throw around comments like that.

No but I have seen enough british "tourists" durning the world cup and every weekend in my city and in Prague. Midless destruction , being unable to drink and still trying , pissing where ever they stand , stealing stuff , speaking with an ununderstadable dialect close to what orkish sounds when read, aggresive when drunk , aggresive when not being able to get drunk fast enough , My uncle has to replace parts of his beer garden every two weeks , because english tourists find it funny to not go through the exist like every normal person .

Makumba wrote:
No but I have seen enough british "tourists" durning the world cup and every weekend in my city and in Prague. Midless destruction , being unable to drink and still trying , pissing where ever they stand , stealing stuff , speaking with an ununderstadable dialect close to what orkish sounds when read, aggresive when drunk , aggresive when not being able to get drunk fast enough , My uncle has to replace parts of his beer garden every two weeks , because english tourists find it funny to not go through the exist like every normal person .

Is that not what every hooligan do ? I would rather blame it on soccer and soccer hooligans than on British people.

Makumba wrote:

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:


That sounds very narrow minded of you. I guess you think we all drink tiffin at four, or hang around on street corners drinking and mugging old ladies. You need to wise up and gain some prospective before you throw around comments like that.

No but I have seen enough british "tourists" durning the world cup and every weekend in my city and in Prague. Midless destruction , being unable to drink and still trying , pissing where ever they stand , stealing stuff , speaking with an ununderstadable dialect close to what orkish sounds when read, aggresive when drunk , aggresive when not being able to get drunk fast enough , My uncle has to replace parts of his beer garden every two weeks , because english tourists find it funny to not go through the exist like every normal person .

Even the British know they're bad tourists, but I wouldn't base my perceptions of an entire people off idiots on a "lads holiday"

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Makumba wrote:
No but I have seen enough british "tourists" durning the world cup and every weekend in my city and in Prague. Midless destruction , being unable to drink and still trying , pissing where ever they stand , stealing stuff , speaking with an ununderstadable dialect close to what orkish sounds when read, aggresive when drunk , aggresive when not being able to get drunk fast enough , My uncle has to replace parts of his beer garden every two weeks , because english tourists find it funny to not go through the exist like every normal person .

Is that not what every hooligan do ? I would rather blame it on soccer and soccer hooligans than on British people.

British hooligans do have quite a bad reputation however. Much more so than hooligans from other countries. Here in the Netherlands, I have never heard of German or French hooligans causing trouble on international games. British hooligans however; are definitely living up to their reputation.
Contrary to this horrible reputation however, I find the British to be very friendly and polite when in their own country. It almost seems like the British have some kind of 'switch' that turns as soon as they cross the border

 Iron_Captain wrote:
Here in the Netherlands, I have never heard of German or French hooligans causing trouble on international games.

Well, come to Paris, we have some nice groups of violent neo-nazis supporters for the local soccer club .

 Da krimson barun wrote:

 poppa G wrote:
They look dumb, sound dumb, their technology is sub-par. How have they not been killed off yet?? They're the equivalent of cavemen. Whenever I hear their illiteracy I want to wipe them off the face of the universe.

WE HAS ARRIVED AND IT IZ NOW DAT WE DOES WHAT DA BOSS SAID TO DO.
IN F...FEA...IN FEALTY TO DA BOSSGODS AND DA GRACE OF DA SHINY GUBBINZ,
I DECLARE DIS GIT ORKZTERMINATUS.
I HEREBY EXPLODE WUN UNORKATIC AND CON...CON..CONSIGN HIS SOUL TO EXPLODY DEFF.
MAY GORK AND MORK ACCOUNT IN ALL DAKKA.
DA BOSSGODS PROTECT.

I hate you hahah

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Is that not what every hooligan do ? I would rather blame it on soccer and soccer hooligans than on British people.

Because they aren't football hooligans . Euro was a one off even and they have been acting the same way every week for the last 6 years . Those are always different people and they act the same when visiting other cities and because police picks up the stuff they leave around , I know that they aren't just unemployed people , but offten people with well paid jobs . They just have no culture and don't know how to behave in public.

British hooligans however; are definitely living up to their reputation.
Contrary to this horrible reputation however, I find the British to be very friendly and polite when in their own country.

Let me check the last few months . People from my country had stones thrown at their homes , because they are catholics and they seem either not to care or be unable to see the difference . My aunts daughter was beaten and had her cloths cut , because she didn't knew some song and didn't want to kiss the british flag and Police reaction to this , was that she proveked them , she was 15 stoped by 17+ man, by steping on the flag. And the steping happned because one pushed her on the flag and she lost her footing and the one holding the flag droped it .
I had been to many countries, Germany , Norway , Italy . Lived there for 3-4 months , but we were never treated like we are in UK.

Look Makumba, I'm sorry to hear that they've been a dick in your country, but that still isn't how us Brits are as a whole. I could well say the same about the Polish who go round the town on the Saturday night with the Lativians, and other Eastern europeans who do exactly the same as what you've said (I'm a barman). But that's just it, it's not all the eastern europeans in the town doing it, and its not all the Brits who's doing that either when coming to your country. Try not to tar us all with the same brush, and I'l do the same with your countrymen.

I really hate Ultramarines the most. Their Primarch grew up in a perfect world, became the perfect leader of his people, then was found by the IoM and they made him the leader of the most perfect Legion, which was so perfect that they got to dictate how everyone that didn't switch sides during the hersey has to act. Every single one is the most awesome at whatever he does, be it being a Librarian, tank commander or whatever. Not to mention that they were the only one that saw the good in the tau and decided to virusbomb them to oblivion like the thousands of other species before them. And they also sparkle in sunlight and their bolters shoot randows and unicorns. Their absolute flawlessness makes me want to puke.

Either way, I've got a new signature

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:
Look Makumba, I'm sorry to hear that they've been a dick in your country, but that still isn't how us Brits are as a whole. I could well say the same about the Polish who go round the town on the Saturday night with the Lativians, and other Eastern europeans who do exactly the same as what you've said (I'm a barman). But that's just it, it's not all the eastern europeans in the town doing it, and its not all the Brits who's doing that either when coming to your country. Try not to tar us all with the same brush, and I'l do the same with your countrymen.

Realy you have seen people from eastern europ Piss on the wall of a protestand cathedral or you have seen them attack protestants , because they are protestants and get the full support of police and goverment ?
The only nationality that acts close to how brits act are Russians , but at least they don't try to pretend that they are on some sort of moral highground.

 Jidmah wrote:
I really hate Ultramarines the most. Their Primarch grew up in a perfect world, became the perfect leader of his people, then was found by the IoM and they made him the leader of the most perfect Legion, which was so perfect that they got to dictate how everyone that didn't switch sides during the hersey has to act. Every single one is the most awesome at whatever he does, be it being a Librarian, tank commander or whatever. Not to mention that they were the only one that saw the good in the tau and decided to virusbomb them to oblivion like the thousands of other species before them. And they also sparkle in sunlight and their bolters shoot randows and unicorns. Their absolute flawlessness makes me want to puke.

Either way, I've got a new signature

Haters gonna hate.

Space elves of course, I hate regular elves already but in space nobody can hear your emo poem.

I like Tau's fluff in the sense that they're kinda naive little blue guys who just want to be everybody's friend for the greater good, but they have a darker side by which they accomplish this.

THAT SAID

I flat out refuse to play against Tau unless it's been at least a week since I last played against them. I like to run fun, fluffy armies and even Tau's equivalent of "fun and fluffy" still murders me every time, I have never even won a game against casual Tau. So yeah, there's some bitterness as far as the tabletop goes. Fluffwise they're alright.

Imperial Knights are stupid for a million reasons and the only faction I truly dislike, GW axe them pls.

 poppa G wrote:

I hate you hahah

IT IS HUMIE NATURE TO CRY LIKE GROTZ AND SEEK...CUL..CULPA...CULPABILITY IN TIMES OF WAAAAAGH.
IT IS A SIGN OF PANZYNESS TO CRY LIKE GROTZ ABOUT BEING KRUMPED.
INEVITORKILY MANY GITZ WILL FALL UPON DA CHOPPA DAT KRUMPED DIS GIT, DA ORKO WIERDSTUFF.
BUT DA ORKQUISITION MERELY DOES WAT MORK SEZ.
TO FEAR DEM IS FER PANZYS, TO HATE DEM UNORKY.
THOSE MORE ORKY WILL PLACE RES..RES..RESPONSIBILITY WITH DA GITZ THAT FORCED DA HAND OF DA ORKQUISISHUN.
WITH SOME DAKKA, DEY MAY FOSTER DIS HATRED INTO ORKINESS, AND RULE DER OWN WAAGH BY KRUMPING INTO GORKS SERVICE.
YET ORKTIMATLEY IT WAS I WHO SET THESE WAAAAGHS IN MOTION WITH A SINGLE BLOW FROM MY CHOPPA, GITSPLITTA.

Exalted.

Ultramarines. We're all perfect, we're better than very other race, etc, etc. How can people not like wolves Ok some of their models are slightly ott but I reckon that most marine players hate them cos they've got better troops and better devestators!

Gork and Mork wrote:
We're all perfect, we're better than very other race, etc, etc. How can people not like wolves

The first sentence is a big part of the answer to the second sentence.

Oh dear! I like orks, play space marines & i'm english!
Dare I post?
Yea lets risk it

My hate goes towards, non ip or vanilla sm imperail armies. Yes I play sm (DIY chapter ) and yes there are way too many sm players. Why is that? Because there are too many sm armies and gw pour love all over them! New edition and within weeks we have new sm codex, new sw codex, new ba codex, new da codex etc etc. Come on! Give chaos and some xeno armies some bigging up. My chapter are supposed to be gene-forged warriors shielding humanity from the darkness! So give the other races fair slices of the cake so more people play them, so my chapter is fighting the TRUE enermies of mankind. Not just other sm chapters. Imagination doesn't flair and get excited in marine vs marine battles. Bring on the orks, tau, nids, deamons and of coarse our traitor brothers.
Cleanse & burn our fallen kinsman brothers!!

I hate the Grey Knights. I hate their hyperbolic, over the top 'we're marines but we're the best marines' awful background, over the top rules and terrible, terrible mary-sue characters who can punch through whole Desolator battleships or juggle bloodthirsters whilst composing sonnets about how amazing the Grey Knights are. They just read like a home made chapter some excitable 10 year old dreamed up. 'they're all psykers, they have terminators like everyone else but also ultrapowerful special terminators and they can beat any of the other marines up all day long!!!!'... yeah.

I hate how their terminators come with added terminators, they have ghosts and they can travel in time and space and live in the warp and beat up primarch-daemons.

I hate seeing hastily, lazily sprayed silver armies of them. I hate everything about them and about any time I see a 'noncodex marine army that has all the benefits of the codex marine army and then all the bells and whistles of being a 'special' marine army and pays little to no penalties to balance them up.

Terrible fanboy indulgence.

I originally liked the Grey Knights in Realm of Chaos, I feel they would have made excellent detachments in larger 'Inquisitorial' armies or as attached to other imperium forces. As a stand alone army they are the honed epitome of everything I somewhat dislike about marines in general, condensed into a pure diamond of arsey, superiority-complexed but hollow army.

Makumba wrote:
[bizarre anti-British rant

Not the right thread or forum for this. Do shush...

Gork and Mork wrote:
Ultramarines. We're all perfect, we're better than very other race, etc, etc. How can people not like wolves Ok some of their models are slightly ott but I reckon that most marine players hate them cos they've got better troops and better devestators!

"We're rebels! Yeah! We don't follow no rules! We don't have no Warp sucking librarians! We got Rune Priests who use planet power! We got special names all up in this bitch! But we are also the most loyal perfect Space Marines out there! We are the wildest but the most tactically adept! We got a real attitude and are totally rocking! "

That and their *ahem* fascination with wolves.

Slaanesh just rubs me the wrong way (Irony, i play Eldar). But seriously, all the Chaos gods are cool. And then there's Slaanesh.... He/She/It's the 'unique' one of the group.

Slaanesh just rubs me the wrong way

They say that going against the grain is sometimes a new experience and can heighten one's enjoyment.

@Thread: It's a big internet and there are plenty of sites where you can discuss your justification for ethnic prejudices. DakkaDakka is not one of those sites. Please don't do it here. We are here to talk about fictional factions represented by toy soldiers in pretend battles. Thanks!

As we all know, the real enemy of the Orks, those who despise them the most.... are, of course, all of the other Orks. It's all one big gala party in Orktown guys, and most of the fun happens when the first punch gets thrown.

I was never much a fan of tyranids- I like how they play on the table, and I think that individually their models are pretty impressive, but why does EVERY tyranid, from lowly termagants to mighty hive tyrants, have the same exact snarling dinosaur face? Their whole schtick is mutability and evolution guided by a perversely logical intelligence, but they all look like smaller or bigger versions of a pissed off Alien.

I remember the first time I saw a hive crone, the owner hadn't yet attached the head- so I thought I was seeing a complete model that looked unlike anything I'd ever seen before, and it was pretty sweet. But owp, guess not: he just hadn't yet put on the snarling dinosaur head.

 Psienesis wrote:

Slaanesh just rubs me the wrong way

They say that going against the grain is sometimes a new experience and can heighten one's enjoyment.

That... is so many things.

 Manchu wrote:
@Thread: It's a big internet and there are plenty of sites where you can discuss your justification for ethnic prejudices. DakkaDakka is not one of those sites. Please don't do it here. We are here to talk about fictional factions represented by toy soldiers in pretend battles. Thanks!

Manchu, you glorious bastard.

 Colpicklejar wrote:
I was never much a fan of tyranids- I like how they play on the table, and I think that individually their models are pretty impressive, but why does EVERY tyranid, from lowly termagants to mighty hive tyrants, have the same exact snarling dinosaur face? Their whole schtick is mutability and evolution guided by a perversely logical intelligence, but they all look like smaller or bigger versions of a pissed off Alien.

I remember the first time I saw a hive crone, the owner hadn't yet attached the head- so I thought I was seeing a complete model that looked unlike anything I'd ever seen before, and it was pretty sweet. But owp, guess not: he just hadn't yet put on the snarling dinosaur head.

The reason is to suggest common ancestry.

All Tyranid species are believed to be modifications of a single base genus. Thus, all Tyranids share common traits. A mixture of leather-like skin and segmented chitin, a short, powerful face, hooves if they're legged, eight limbs (with two being vestigal like our tails on any non-fliers), eyes with no apparent pupils, and a tail.

Even feeder tendril tyranids (Lictors, Ymgarl genestealers) share the same overall head structure, just with fleshy bits stuck on.

I do think that GW should have made feeder tendrils an option on all tyranids; if only so that all of them could share in the glory of a Cthulhu head and get something out of it. And also so that they can all eat your brains.

Makumba wrote:


Realy you have seen people from eastern europ Piss on the wall of a protestand cathedral or you have seen them attack protestants , because they are protestants and get the full support of police and goverment ?
The only nationality that acts close to how brits act are Russians , but at least they don't try to pretend that they are on some sort of moral highground.

we're like da orkses

I dont hate any army,
I play orks and i deeply love them, but my favourite are still dark eldar.
Space Marines and Imperial Guard irk me sometime but I can still appreciate them
Things like the Imperial Knights and Adeptus Milistratum seem silly to me but I can appreciate why some people would enjoy them.
At the end of the day, we all have different opinions on things and what some of you may hate, to others, it might be the only thing that keeps them in 40k, so i dont really see why we need a whole thread on why we hate things that dont deserve to be hated, the races of 40k are so diverse that of course there will be some you love, and others you dont, but that doesnt mean you should post hate on them on a forum, you should just accept them and look forward to the next time you get to face them on the tabletop and (hopefully) send them running!

Makumba wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Is that not what every hooligan do ? I would rather blame it on soccer and soccer hooligans than on British people.

Because they aren't football hooligans . Euro was a one off even and they have been acting the same way every week for the last 6 years . Those are always different people and they act the same when visiting other cities and because police picks up the stuff they leave around , I know that they aren't just unemployed people , but offten people with well paid jobs . They just have no culture and don't know how to behave in public.

British hooligans however; are definitely living up to their reputation.
Contrary to this horrible reputation however, I find the British to be very friendly and polite when in their own country.

Let me check the last few months . People from my country had stones thrown at their homes , because they are catholics and they seem either not to care or be unable to see the difference . My aunts daughter was beaten and had her cloths cut , because she didn't knew some song and didn't want to kiss the british flag and Police reaction to this , was that she proveked them , she was 15 stoped by 17+ man, by steping on the flag. And the steping happned because one pushed her on the flag and she lost her footing and the one holding the flag droped it .
I had been to many countries, Germany , Norway , Italy . Lived there for 3-4 months , but we were never treated like we are in UK.

Sorry to hear this. I agree that in the UK, up north especially, I see lots of racism against Poles which upsets me, as I am half Polak, I've seen my dad randomly arrested merely for being foreigh, and there's still a certain thread of prejudice in the middle classes here - half of them mock Polish builders, half of them want to hire them.

My shame at the British half of me is only equalled by my shame when I see drunken Polish builders shouting at women on the tube, acting like yobs on the train, or their increasing gang-like behaviour on building sites where they are now known to intimidate Brits and only hire Poles.

In short: yobbery is certainly not the province of a single nation, and we should apologise for our own, before we condemn others.

As for Orks... better to lose with a gloriously ramshackle green army than to win with a boring marine army.

Orks, there crazy to fight, not many others give you so much stuff to shoot at, unique converted trucks, tanks and battlewagon's or boards of green blobs of infriantry.

+ ork players, some have beuterfuly crafted armies of custom and unique veichals, tanks and such.

Eldar. We are a super advanced space race we could feth up everything but we are too busy rubbing our gems

And black Templars. So cool they had their codex revoked!

I dislike how it seems that tau are now the most populous race in the universe (as determined by the number of players playing them).

Also, whilst I like the imperial knight models, their strategy of going to battle with no infantry or supporting units is mind bogglingly stupid. Their codex needs fleshing out, at the moment they are one dimensional.

Not really hate, but i find most Space Marines boring. So many version of....humans. Guards would also feel boring if it wasn't for the massive flashlight joke. =P

The xenos, i like. Tyranids being my most favorite and Orks. And i'm interested in Eldars. SoB are the humans i like the most....because girls in armor. =D

Space Wolves. Just stupid, turned up to 11. I'm either apathetic or cool with literally every other book, but Wolves? Nope. No mercy.

Addaran wrote:
Not really hate, but i find most Space Marines boring. So many version of....humans. Guards would also feel boring if it wasn't for the massive flashlight joke. =P

The xenos, i like. Tyranids being my most favorite and Orks. And i'm interested in Eldars. SoB are the humans i like the most....because girls in armor. =D

misandry spotted

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

Addaran wrote:
Not really hate, but i find most Space Marines boring. So many version of....humans. Guards would also feel boring if it wasn't for the massive flashlight joke. =P

The xenos, i like. Tyranids being my most favorite and Orks. And i'm interested in Eldars. SoB are the humans i like the most....because girls in armor. =D

misandry spotted

If having a bias for women is misandry, half the guys are guilty.

Addaran wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

Addaran wrote:
Not really hate, but i find most Space Marines boring. So many version of....humans. Guards would also feel boring if it wasn't for the massive flashlight joke. =P

The xenos, i like. Tyranids being my most favorite and Orks. And i'm interested in Eldars. SoB are the humans i like the most....because girls in armor. =D

misandry spotted

If having a bias for women is misandry, half the guys are guilty.

GUILTY

Get the pitchforks, people!

As far as play style goes, I don't like static armies like IG or Tau. Yeah, I get the appeal of wanting a shooting army, but I prefer playing fast and loose which is why I like Orks and Daemons so much. I'm even getting bored with my Space Wolves since they're mainly shooting based.

 Wilytank wrote:
As far as play style goes, I don't like static armies like IG or Tau. Yeah, I get the appeal of wanting a shooting army, but I prefer playing fast and loose which is why I like Orks and Daemons so much. I'm even getting bored with my Space Wolves since they're mainly shooting based.

Maybe check the tyranids. They are fast and everything is assault so you can always move. =D

Addaran wrote:

 Wilytank wrote:
As far as play style goes, I don't like static armies like IG or Tau. Yeah, I get the appeal of wanting a shooting army, but I prefer playing fast and loose which is why I like Orks and Daemons so much. I'm even getting bored with my Space Wolves since they're mainly shooting based.

Maybe check the tyranids. They are fast and everything is assault so you can always move. =D

Nah, if I do another horde army, it's going to be Skaven in WHFB.

Space wolves....

I mean, I got wolf in my name, and in my image, wolves are my favorite animal, I fething LOVE wolves.

But the space wolves are just TOO DAMN FAR at it, I could not take them seriously enough to choose them when I chose my army.

 koooaei wrote:

Makumba wrote:


Realy you have seen people from eastern europ Piss on the wall of a protestand cathedral or you have seen them attack protestants , because they are protestants and get the full support of police and goverment ?
The only nationality that acts close to how brits act are Russians , but at least they don't try to pretend that they are on some sort of moral highground.

we're like da orkses

Nyet. Orks run away from us in fear.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Space wolves....

I mean, I got wolf in my name, and in my image, wolves are my favorite animal, I fething LOVE wolves.

But the space wolves are just TOO DAMN FAR at it, I could not take them seriously enough to choose them when I chose my army.

Wolf Lord Vulf Volksson of the Space Wolves thinks you are not wolf enough to join the wolfpacks of the Wolves of Fenris. WOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLF!

I long back to the times when the Space Wolves were simply badass Spehss Vikings without all the wolf names.

Addaran wrote:
If having a bias for women is misandry, half the guys are guilty.

Only half of them ?

I despise Space Wolves and everywolf they are/wolf for.

Interesting read!

For me i hate Space Marines. Everyone around here plays them, and it seems like i'm playing the same army every single god damn time.
Marines in Rhino. Check.
Aegis Defence Line with Quad Gun. Check.
urgh.


To further annoy me, i would like to build a SM army. Filled with thunderclaw terminators, jump infantry and other models i like. But i just feel it's pointless as my next opponent will be, SM. Funnily enough, the models i like i don't tend to see...


Space Marines also suck all the time out of 40k designers, writers etc. because there's so many of the same power armour armies, but with slight differences in them. I am craving for a new race, there's room. Look at how many fantasy has!


Iron Hands, Iron Fists, Iron Shoulders, Iron Feet.
Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Blue Angels, Angel Delight.




Least Space Wolves have the decency to go riding on wolves rather than bikes, unlike everyone else.
Grey Knights, have some unique units, like the Dreadknight.


I can handle Tau gunline as long as it's not a copy and paste list. Their fluff sounds good enough to me, the Kroots are cool, but the Toys'R'us suits are just lame.
Necrons. Robots. Nuff said.
Orks. They're Orks. Nuff said.
Eldar. Space Elves. Good enough with some cool, if not overpowered models.
Dark Eldar. I'll give them some room here, but so far all i've seen has been armies sprayed black. They're headed to the hate list soon.
Imperial Guard. Dudes with tanks, that aren't in power armour. Sound fine.
Chaos be Chaos. Power Armour + some originality. All good.
Daemons. They go the extra mile for some randomness.
Tyranids. <3. Cool army, bad bad bad, terrible, god awful, diabolical, dreadful, atrocious, ghastly, moronic, retardly, astronomically dumb writers.

Nids..... Space cockroaches. Stomp them to paste. And daemons just ugly personalitys, always trying to get my sweets.

I'm a bit biased against Tau but that stems from an interesting incident involving three RipTides and a couple squads of marker light Pathfinders... Besides its fun to be able to say "Greater Good this!" when opening fire on the little blue buggers with plasma and lascannons

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Addaran wrote:
If having a bias for women is misandry, half the guys are guilty.

Only half of them ?

10% of them or so play for the other team.

I hate Tau for their looks, their suits just got great but I'm about their heads, bunch of characterless fish guys. Kroot also have something warcraftish in their design, also Tau in general have too nice fluff. They look great on the table tough.

What doesn't look great on the table are Eldar though. I would remove them from 40k in a heartbeat, it's just space elves and silly, Orks at least are a bombastic joke but I see no excuse for Eldar. The only good looking miniatures there are wraithlords, wraithguard and a new flyer. Vehicles look bad, especialy jetbikes and tanks not to mention characterless infantry. Also no grimdark in the fluff just standard elves.

 Psienesis wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Addaran wrote:
If having a bias for women is misandry, half the guys are guilty.

Only half of them ?

10% of them or so play for the other team.

That, and saddly a lot of guys view women as inferior, slaves or objects.

My least favourite race?

Sisters of Battle. Boob Plate and next to no models/rules. And such a concept too.

Orks are the best dudes ever ! Brutish, foolish, funny. When I was younger, as an Eldar idealist, I hated ork. Until Brian appeared with its fantastic Orks. And GorkaMorka. And when I first buy my first ever Ork plastic kit (Boyz) I fel in love with them. Orks can do ANYFING' it is an hobbyist dream.

But back to the question then. The race I hate the most would be... Imperial guards maybe ? Or grey knight because I really dislike their mini style, especially the horrible Dreadknight. Not very fan of Tau fluff but love the models (fire warrior above all).

Well, thanks for asking !

Daemons, wierd creepy over-powered stupid looking

My hate runs deep seriously

Tau, their propaganda really annoys me and the fact that they seek to rule over humans rather than destroy them is unsettling to say the least.

Am I weird in that I don't dislike any faction? Sure, there are some I find less interesting than others (such as Tyranids), but all in all I feel the sheer variety of aesthetics to be one of the most appealing factors that WH40K possesses. Some say that Tau or the Eldar do not exactly fit within the setting, that they aren't 'Grimdark' enough, but if you ask me no one faction truly fits into the messy, hodgepodge of sci-fi tropes that is WH40k, and that's exactly how I like it.

Banzaimash wrote:
Tau, their propaganda really annoys me and the fact that they seek to rule over humans rather than destroy them is unsettling to say the least.

Wait, you would rather they commit genocide?

I actively despise the Grey Knights. They should have stayed in the fluff and maybe have a presence in an Inquisition army. Other than that every other faction im cool with.

Credit to wobbly model syndrome

Tau. Im not saying Tau fluff is bad, I just dont like their model aesthetics. Seem to me too much out of WH40K absurd style...

Orks are one of the best races! Over the top, funny, can't be eradicated, fun to use. How can you not like them!

I like all the races, though I'm not real fond of Eldar and Tau at the moment. Guess why?

Actually Tau are pretty crappy aesthetically. I would never collect them. Everything else is cool.

 Kavish wrote:
Orks are one of the best races! Over the top, funny, can't be eradicated, fun to use. How can you not like them!

I like all the races, though I'm not real fond of Eldar and Tau at the moment. Guess why?

Actually Tau are pretty crappy aesthetically. I would never collect them. Everything else is cool.

Orks are probably the purest expression of 40k. Over the top, incredibly violent, brutal, and darkly comedic.

Everything that makes 40k what it is setting wise save for faction specific things, can be found in the Orks.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
I actually like all races, altough I dislike the anime-style robots of the Tau. Those large disk-shaped hats are pretty silly too. Otherwise they are quite cool.

Are you kidding me, those exoskeletons, sleek vehicles and disc drones are all cute and sexy as hell!


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 UlrikDecado wrote:
Tau. Im not saying Tau fluff is bad, I just dont like their model aesthetics. Seem to me too much out of WH40K absurd style...

This doesn't make any sense, universe is not a homogenized template, Tau fit in exactly because they don't fit in.

There is no faction that I straight-up hate. There are aspects of a lot of them that I don't like, but each faction has enough to justify its place in the universe. Now, I don't neccessarily agree with all of the factions being separate armies... Daemons are not their own army; they belong in the CSM book (with HQ options that would allow you to field an all-daemon force if you wanted). Grey Knights are not their own army, they belong in an Inquisition codex (with HQ options that would allow you to field an all GK army). I still haven't heard a valid reason why all the non-codex chapters can't be rolled into one SM codex, along with all the other non codex chapters (White Scars, Black Templars, etc). You can probably guess how I feel about Stormtroopers getting their own codex...

But, like i said, while I would happily eliminate whole codexes from existence, i would never delete a faction from the background. Partly because I think they all fit in some way, and partly because I remember when GW did that to the Squats. As a former Squat player, i could never inflict that kind of suffering on a fellow 40K player.

Cyten wrote:

 UlrikDecado wrote:
Tau. Im not saying Tau fluff is bad, I just dont like their model aesthetics. Seem to me too much out of WH40K absurd style...

This doesn't make any sense, universe is not a homogenized template, Tau fit in exactly because they don't fit in.

Im not saying its wrong and people shouldnt play them Its just my feeling. But, I can argue, that despite there is no template, WH40K has specifics in its aestethics (as many, maaaany other fictional worlds) where, from my humble and clearly subjective POV Tau doesnt belong. They dont fit in because they dont fit in