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Chaos Daemons. I pretty much hate everything about that army. They were the beginning of the end of a quality Chaos Marine army that wasn't going to be just spiky marines.

Honorable mention to BA. I've just disliked them the most of all of the SM chapters.

I never could get behind the Tau when they came out. The necrons bothered me less, but never really cared for them either.

But, I hate the dark eldar...they are just so one - dimensionally evil that they make me want to wretch. They eat, sleep, and poo torture. They are as singular in their selfish soul sucking evil as any tyranids swarm in it's hunger.


Even the space marines show more variety in motivation, character, and levels of moral gray area. I am definitely racist against dark eldar. Hate em'.

Know what bugs me about Orks?

The Imperium hasn't tried neutron bombs on them yet. : /

Nor have they attempted to engineer a bioweapon which targets their DNA and eradicates them, but leaves everything else alive. Sure, they've used vir- Gonna capitalize that -Virus Bombs, but only as Exterminatus, and generally they're incredibly indiscriminate weapons.

Well, being both an Ork player and Chaos player, I guess I always disliked Imperials and other Xenos from a fluff point of view (but always like fighting them). Im a Nurgle player also, so I naturally developed the appropriate distain for any Tzeentch units.

I also Abhor the Witch. Psychic Powers are annoying. Do you REALLY need more re-rolls?

 Pouncey wrote:
Know what bugs me about Orks?

The Imperium hasn't tried neutron bombs on them yet. : /

Nor have they attempted to engineer a bioweapon which targets their DNA and eradicates them, but leaves everything else alive. Sure, they've used vir- Gonna capitalize that -Virus Bombs, but only as Exterminatus, and generally they're incredibly indiscriminate weapons.

Wasn't that what Inquisitor Drogan was researching in Space Marine?

Not so much hate, but roll my eyes at, is chaos. Yes you can do all sorts of funky stuff and grow a third arm because your empowered by one, or four gods chillin in the warp. But just tone down the whole, hey look at me, I can shoot fire balls from my arse and do all types of vodoo. If they're so fan-tidily-tastic then how come they're not sittin pretty and have the Daemon-Punk Primarchs hiding in the eye with only a few jaunts out into the wider world in ten-thousand years?

Eldar...

Just because I've never, EVER beaten an Eldar army.

Since all the way back in Rogue Trader.

They are also the only army I've never collected.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Orks exhibit every trait and behavior real life racists attribute to "lesser races": Violent, primitive, dumb, foul and ugly... And yet they are one of the most successful species in 40k by a far cry.

Personally, I think they're written as a covert pun on racism.

Pus they have non-white skin.

Tyranids, they're so boring.

I don't really HATE any of the races, but I heavily dislike Nids, dunno why.

Oldcrons were one of my favourite armies, even if they were metal tyranids. Newcrons fluff doesn't really bother me much, though the incredibly OP stuff I just flat out ignore.

Orks are also one of my favourite races... but I can see why you'd dislike them (even if I don't think of them as stupid, their just a tad simplistic and brutish)

Waaaghpower wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Orks exhibit every trait and behavior real life racists attribute to "lesser races": Violent, primitive, dumb, foul and ugly... And yet they are one of the most successful species in 40k by a far cry.

Personally, I think they're written as a covert pun on racism.

Pus they have non-white skin.

No kidding, I used to know a guy who called them "Space *racial slur starting with the letter "n"*". He also believed 40k was some sort of prophecy for the coming racial holy war. Probably one of the most "interesting" characters I've ever played against

Eldar. "Egotistical Space Elves"
Dark Angels. "Unreliable and selfish at best, heretics and traitors at worst."

Demons, on looks alone.

The Tau - Brainwashed-Fascist space communists.

Their tanks look ugly as sin, and their rules are annoying as all hell.

Plus, their gunline, nothing but shooting playstyle, attracts the worst sort of players, and leads to boring games where they just shoot their opponent off the table. Then get all pissy when you make it into combat with their beloved broadsides.

I take the most enjoyment in multi-assaulting that gunline, simultaneously sweeping two units from behind their precious Aegis.

 Murdius Maximus wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
Know what bugs me about Orks?

The Imperium hasn't tried neutron bombs on them yet. : /

Nor have they attempted to engineer a bioweapon which targets their DNA and eradicates them, but leaves everything else alive. Sure, they've used vir- Gonna capitalize that -Virus Bombs, but only as Exterminatus, and generally they're incredibly indiscriminate weapons.

Wasn't that what Inquisitor Drogan was researching in Space Marine?

Is it?

I never played that game. Single player video games aren't my thing - never did finish Warcraft III's campaign, and the only Dawn of War I've played has been to go into Skirmish and just slaughter the crap out of a bunch of the easiest mode of AI players in a 3+me VS 4 - and when I looked up Total Biscuit's video of Space Marine's multiplayer right after I watched his first video of its singleplayer, well, that sudden jump from, "HOLY CRAP THIS IS THE MOST AWESOME FORTY KAY GAME EVER!!!!!" to "Ugh this stuff is so sucky and, and just.... ugh." really put me off of playing it. Looking forward to Eternal Crusade though.

Tau. Honestly, get your science fiction out of my space horror.

Not a big fan of space marines either, aside from a few of the darker chapters - Black Templar for instance.

Don't like Orks in the slightest, either.

Then its the Necrons

The rest is mostly fine, but the SW are coming as a bit annoying the more I learn about them and their shenanigans

I actually really like Tau.
I wanted to start an army of them but it seems like the last thing the meta needs is another Tau player.

I hate the orks too. Maybe its just because my best friend plays orks and my eldar are tired of killing them. All of them over and over. No matter how many you kill there is still more.

I like all the factions, but I think the "WOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLF" aspect of the Space Wolves needs to be toned down.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Orks exhibit every trait and behavior real life racists attribute to "lesser races": Violent, primitive, dumb, foul and ugly... And yet they are one of the most successful species in 40k by a far cry.

Personally, I think they're written as a covert pun on racism.

But if I'm given the chance of being racist towards a 40k ethnic group, I'd say... Astartes. The Imperium can do without an army of bioengineered abominations who take the slightest chance to betray their parent species and rightful masters. For the good of mankind, they had better been put to the stake.

Bro this deserves an exalt. I think you've nailed one of the main reasons I love Orks - the fact that they are portrayed as so inferior like this, yet kick so much ass! Really takes the wind out of the sails of Eldar, Space Marines, and other elites, to get crushed by a stinking tide of greenskins

 Musashi363 wrote:
Demons, on looks alone.

I'll admit that some of GW's Daemon models are ugly (I loathe the GW Keeper of Secrets), but that's just an opportunity to make some awesome conversions. That's why I love all things Chaos. They're a converter's Vallhalla. Never build anything like it came in the box! Also, the newer models for the basic bloodletters/daemonettes/horrors look pretty sweet, in my opinion. If you don't build something cheesetastic like Screamerstar, the rules make for some dang fun games too.

I guess we'll all have to put up with it, because however much we may hate a particular race, it's someone's favorite. Even Tyranids, much as I think it gets boring when the fluff shifts focus to the latest Hive Fleet invasion, is someone's favorite army, and I won't begrudge them of that.

Orcs are very british , so it isn't hard to dislike them

Pretty much dislike everything about Sisters. Their fluff, aesthetics and the way they play.

Not a fan of Slaneesh either.

While I don't hate any of the other Imperial Factions, I prefer every Xenos faction over them.

Kroot -> Tyranids -> Orks -> Tzeentch -> Necrons -> Eldar -> Nurgle & Khorne -> Dark Eldar -> Tau -> Dkok -> Grey Knights / Minotaurs / Deathwing -> Space Marines / Imperial Guard -> Space Wolves / Blood Angels -> Sisters -> Slaneesh.

I hate slaneesh. Its nothing to do with the idea of them at all, just that GW is uncomfortable with their own ip, and show how lame they are by reflection. GW needs to flesh them out and if the sex drugs and rock and roll angle is too much, they need to ret-con them into something they feel safe touching.

The music bright colors, combat drugs, and rage/dance/art angle is there, burried they just need to figure out how they're going to twist it into an angle they don't feel awkward handling.

I don't really dislike any of the armies. I think they all add something to the setting and each have their charms.

I guess I'm much less interested in some than the others, but certainly no hate.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Battle Sisters. :[ Great potential ruined by onedimensional writing and boobplate.

Well, they're hardly defined by their boobplate. The writing thing is subjective, myself and others really like their writing, but I can understand why others wouldn't.

 Musashi363 wrote:
Demons, on looks alone.

Some of their models are a bit unsettling. Especially those creepy Plaguebearers. But I see this as fitting their fluff, myself.

I most dislike Tau and Imperial Guard.

Tau are really irritating fluff-wise. They are a tiny little empire, yet they have loads of players - there must be more Crisis Suits and Firewarrior models than the Tau Empire has soldiers. This makes it a total chore to write their players into any kind of a narrative effort. I mean, I like the idea of writing a story for a game set in the 36th millenium and stuff, you know, away from the 999.40 business. But oh no... Tau Empire! Only exist in the last ten seconds of the fluff!

Also their play style is quite negative, and I tire of the endless shooting phases. They were more entertaining last edition, simply because I felt that the game balance wasn't so skewed in favour of them shooting me to bits.

Then there is the Imperial Guard. The main thing that annoys me about them is the players. You can hardly move on forums for IG players busy trumpeting about how AWESOME and WONDERFUL it is to play REAL NORMAL PEOPLE. Whatever guys. It is just this vague sense of their players being unreasonably proud of their background, in a way that other players tend not to be. Along with Ork and Ultramarine players, they also tend to be the guys who collect ninety five and a half thousand points of one army, mostly unpainted, which they will then tell you about in great and agonising detail. Their playstyle also seems sadly dull as soup - stand still, shoot, don't dare move an inch from your deployment - but I will admit that they die like champions which makes them quite entertaining to play against. Blob squads are like the dream Burnawagon/Dakkajet targets. It is a shame, because I really like their vehicles (not the Chimera though) and always fancied a Steel Legion army back in 3rd.

But you know what, guys? This doesn't matter. I happily play everyone, and the only time that I look sad to play any particular army is when it is triptide or Wave Serpent spam, neither of which I have any real chance against. So you know, all that bit I wrote above is just idle thinking, and hardly reflective of what I actually get up to. Nice to get some steam out though, right?

 Troike wrote:

Well, they're hardly defined by their boobplate. The writing thing is subjective, myself and others really like their writing, but I can understand why others wouldn't.

Their armour is too form-fitting overall to look like it protects decently well. It just looks thin, and the implications that it would offer equal protection to the bulkier SM armour just seem implausible.

Before you ask, yes, I think BA shares this problem, but at least it is not on every single Marine.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Murdius Maximus wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
Know what bugs me about Orks?

The Imperium hasn't tried neutron bombs on them yet. : /

Nor have they attempted to engineer a bioweapon which targets their DNA and eradicates them, but leaves everything else alive. Sure, they've used vir- Gonna capitalize that -Virus Bombs, but only as Exterminatus, and generally they're incredibly indiscriminate weapons.

Wasn't that what Inquisitor Drogan was researching in Space Marine?

Is it?

I never played that game. Single player video games aren't my thing - never did finish Warcraft III's campaign, and the only Dawn of War I've played has been to go into Skirmish and just slaughter the crap out of a bunch of the easiest mode of AI players in a 3+me VS 4 - and when I looked up Total Biscuit's video of Space Marine's multiplayer right after I watched his first video of its singleplayer, well, that sudden jump from, "HOLY CRAP THIS IS THE MOST AWESOME FORTY KAY GAME EVER!!!!!" to "Ugh this stuff is so sucky and, and just.... ugh." really put me off of playing it. Looking forward to Eternal Crusade though.

No, it was a faux. Drogan was possessed by a daemon and the 'research' was him wanting to open a warp rift.

Also wat is up with those boobs? E.E

Sisters of Battle.

They're completely ineffectual and die in droves. Such a waste of power armour.

The only reason why I give Grey Knights a pass is because of this.

Honourable mentions to:

Eldar (ugly)
Tau (overpowered, boring to oppose, noblebright weeaboos)
Space Wolves (lazy nomenclature, the "fething metal" wolf theme is so bourgeois, my main two races have low initiative)
Salamanders (ugly colour scheme, people like them and I don't know why)
Crimson Fists (see: Salamanders)
White Scars (they're goddamn Mongorians, also, see: Salamanders)
Thousand Sons (see: Salamanders)
Raven Guard (see: Salamanders)
Imperial Knights (see: Eldar)

 Charles Rampant wrote:
I most dislike Tau and Imperial Guard.

Tau are really irritating fluff-wise. They are a tiny little empire, yet they have loads of players - there must be more Crisis Suits and Firewarrior models than the Tau Empire has soldiers. This makes it a total chore to write their players into any kind of a narrative effort. I mean, I like the idea of writing a story for a game set in the 36th millenium and stuff, you know, away from the 999.40 business. But oh no... Tau Empire! Only exist in the last ten seconds of the fluff!

Also their play style is quite negative, and I tire of the endless shooting phases. They were more entertaining last edition, simply because I felt that the game balance wasn't so skewed in favour of them shooting me to bits.

Then there is the Imperial Guard. The main thing that annoys me about them is the players. You can hardly move on forums for IG players busy trumpeting about how AWESOME and WONDERFUL it is to play REAL NORMAL PEOPLE. Whatever guys. It is just this vague sense of their players being unreasonably proud of their background, in a way that other players tend not to be. Along with Ork and Ultramarine players, they also tend to be the guys who collect ninety five and a half thousand points of one army, mostly unpainted, which they will then tell you about in great and agonising detail. Their playstyle also seems sadly dull as soup - stand still, shoot, don't dare move an inch from your deployment - but I will admit that they die like champions which makes them quite entertaining to play against. Blob squads are like the dream Burnawagon/Dakkajet targets. It is a shame, because I really like their vehicles (not the Chimera though) and always fancied a Steel Legion army back in 3rd.

But you know what, guys? This doesn't matter. I happily play everyone, and the only time that I look sad to play any particular army is when it is triptide or Wave Serpent spam, neither of which I have any real chance against. So you know, all that bit I wrote above is just idle thinking, and hardly reflective of what I actually get up to. Nice to get some steam out though, right?

Small is relative, there's likely tens if not hundreds of trillions of individuals under the banner of T'au. Much like how the Eldar are considered to have a small population even though individual craftworlds hold billions of people and Commorragh probably hosts tens of trillions.

So yes the Tau are small, but in terms of scale; by our standards they're still enormous. Given that the Tau and their Allies also seem to be rather militarized, their military is also probably a large body with billions if not trillions of standing soldiers, not including Gue'vesa, Kroot, Vespid, and other auxiliaries or allied polities and trading partners.