ZephyrRey wrote:From all of us at the NSFW club, I wish you luck at 'Ard Boyz today, Doomykins. Do us proud.
So, I was just going to put a "+1" because, as the founding member of Team [NSFW], I felt it deserved a "+1". Odd thing is, now you can't just put a "+1" because they will consider it spam...
I think I did you proud, guys.
Took third, which means i broke even, but I think I had the most fun. Round one I ended up tabling the guy, who lost morale after I came in with everything and wiped out his terminators/ traitor in the luckiest round of dice rolling ever. Harpy wrecked the landraider, then 2 spores of devgants chewed up the terminators and the traitor, all of this at the bottom of turn 2. 7 killpoints with no losses down, he really stopped trying to play effectively.
Over the handshake, he mumbles "I don't like balls..."
I lost my composure completely and shook with laughter.
Progress on what will hopefully turn into a swarmlord, and I found some awesome paint that I'm going to mix into pretty much all of my carapace painting from now on.
Here's a tip for cheap bone swords. Rotisserie chickens, the kind you get pre-cooked at supermarkets? They have these two bones that are the perfect size and shape for large boneswords, like the ones you need for that guy. I think they're the shoulder or wing bones... Anyways, eat the delicious delicious chicken, then dig around in the carcass for the bones, and either boil them, or soak 'em in dish detergent for a few weeks to get the gunk out- voila! Insta-bonesword for the cost of some detergent and a meal.
If you want. Personally, I feel better about the 'soak in detergent' method, but it's a bit long.
I've actually boiled an entire chicken skeleton and used the bones for various things, though- they're soft and pliable while they're still wet, but after they dry out (about a day or two- bones are kinda spongey) they're nice and hard, even if they can snap.
The nice thing about that, though, is that since you're using real bones for your boneswords, the break actually looks like it ought, and you could just pass it off as battle damage.
Interesting. I'll check it out, though I think I'm going to go full on Texas mode and throw the bones into a fire ant mound with some fishing line attached. Those ants will pick the bones totally clean in a few hours.
But I'll probably just use my own. I'm pretty good at scratchbuilding stuff.
Check it out! I'm casting warriors in chocolate. I can't show you how, but they're pretty good casts in every sense of the double entendre.
I'm making a Doom of Malantai, and so I need a cool way of representing souls being taken from bodies.
I'm going to do a set of three figures that show various stages of a soul rising out of a corpse, and center the Doom in all of this, feasting on them. I want the ghosts to be all green glow like in LOTR, and sitting up out of the bodies like so:
Modeling this is hard though. I'm gonna need some advanced techniques.
Nah, screw it, I'll just slap something together and it will be semi-magical because it will glow in the dark/ under uv light.
Need to have the head of the actual body smashed in. Otherwise the hand holding the head makes no real sense, but so far the concept is coming along nicely.
What about gluing two models front to back and then peeling them apart underwater? Get some nice soul ripping action!
Doomthumbs wrote:Actually, Yes! It happens because the cornstarch/water mix becomes more like a solid when vibrations rock through it.
To quote the common misconception, but is actually true in this specific instance, "Size doesn't matter".
It will work on a smaller speaker, just... well, on a smaller scale. What matters is speaker power, which I assure you my thing has.
The specific reason it WONT work on mine anymore is because I have angled the speaker 45 degrees. I scrapped that idea and didn't tell anyone about it, just posted pics where it was clear that it would in no way work like intended. This change came about from the realization that the GW manager would slap the gak out of me, and rightly so, for getting the drippings on his tables.
See below for how cool but messy this stuff is.
Maybe I will use the other speakers to do this if I can figure out a better containment system.
Got an idea for avoiding that the Ooze will drip on the table,and it will make some cool Objective marker!
It will represent a Gestating(growing) Nid Tyrant in stasis.
Only issue I can see with the above is that it would need taking part and cleaning after every use, as cornstarch in water is a pretty good medium for growing bacteria. If that were a sealed unit, it would pop and stink...
Find an appropriately sized glass / plastic jar with a screw on top, cut out the bulk of the lid leaving the threading and attach the threading to speaker (maybe spray latex / paint over the speaker to prevent it seeping?) then you have a screw-on cover for it.
So I'm a latecomer to this thread, and I was just curious is someone could explain what this thread is supposed to be. I've looked through about 12 of the pages, and quite frankly I just don't get it.
Brilliant! I Love the Labia Marine. Made me laugh so much!
If only Your could market and sell your chocolate molded models... I would buy them, and Nom on tasty morsels of Nids, Marines, necrons and Flimsy little Elfses. Mmmm
I can picture it... *Waynes World dream sequence*
Me: Oh look i killed 11 of your Guants with my Battle Cannon. THIS... IS... CHOCOLATE! NOM
@Rawson - To me, its always a good thing when people have trouble deciding. That way I know they're thinking for themselves. Welcome back.
@Cincy - Its my Painting and Modeling blog. It's loosely themed towards Tyranids and dark humor. But that is just the hook.
In the long run, I'm trying to show people that chopping up models and re assembling them into new configurations yields great success. People that are tired of seeing the same figure with new paint on it gravitate here, and hopefully leave with some inspiration. Or at the very least an awkward feeling and strange unexplained desire to mutilate a model.
@Firecancer - Made me laugh too.
Unfortunately, I can't market them, as even in chocolate they are GW's intellectual property. Doesnt stop me from making them for me to eat, because someone suing over a chocolate sculpture is both begging me to eat the evidence, and a PR nightmare.
@Glass Ninja - Thanks for the support!
@Ysclyth- You and me both. I'm starting to get into a MEQ army, and my peter pan syndrome only keeps those jokes fresh for so long, but I'm sure I'll be inspired to create (and maybe offend) some more in the future.
Not exactly Tyranids, but they'll be used on the bases of tyranids.
I give you: more mutilated marines, and their ghost counterparts! (Unpainted, but as usual the fun is in the modeling/picture description story)
The two marines I classify as "ghosts" will get the same green treatment as the other one did. I like the idea of ghosts just realizing that the body died.
Kind of a "Oh maaaaan! I had a whole day planned!" feel to the situation.
The walls of which are going to be great stuff expanding foam (I'm sure you know what that is), covered in Tyvek (Wtf is Tyvek?), and then hit with a blowdryer.
Tyvek is tightly woven plastic fiber, and used almost everywhere. houses that you see being constructed are wrapped in Tyvek. The wristbands you get at the waterpark and at concerts are Tyvek. They have Tyvek mailing envelopes and Tyvek hospital gowns.
It breathes really well, allowing water vapor through, but is waterproof against liquids. You can paint it. You can cut it with scissors. You can wrap expanding foam in it.
Pretty awesome stuff. When it gets hit with heat, it gets even better. It forms blisters, and stretches and contracts randomly. Looks organic.
Below are some samples of what you get by taking a scrap of Tyvek and hitting it with a blowdryer.
Picture this all over a game board, with termagants poking through places, and a honeycomb floor. That's what I'm building.
Thank you! They're also pretty fast to make.
I used Jimsolo's advice from the other thread on this, and went the extra mile to paint a brighter white wash into the recesses of the "ghost" marines.
It worked out fairly well. I also went a little lighter on the amount of coats of the "bath" that I give them, so more white shows through.
Have to say, for ten minutes yielding two reasonably decent paintjobs that glow in the dark, this method works pretty nice. The effect actually almost hinges on the fact that you put no time into it. The faster you do it, the better it looks.
I like the "just dead" Marines. Maybe a ghost looking down at a severed head, comically unaware of his decapitated body still momentarily standing behind him. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product.
marmaduke wrote:so i am kinda curiose if you would do a tutorial about how to cut up models so they are easily reposible?
Basically, get a model with as many parts as possible. Makes the basic work easier than doing reposes on an AOBR marine.
Beyond that, what I do is figure out where I want the bend to be, usually at an elbow or knee joint, and then cut a V where I want to bend the plastic. This way I have to bend less plastic, and it has a back cut to fall into. You can also use a lighter, but be careful not to melt put detail.
You should mod one of the "Whole" marines and give him a big ragged hole through his torso, like he got on the wrong end of a Lascannon or something. You could also have one with an impact crater on the front (small), with a bunch of organs/intestines/geneseeds coming out the other end (Kinda like how actual gun wounds occur). Or just a sad ghost marine, holding his intestines, or using them to sadly jump-rope with himself....
Oh they're still usable.
Really only a few of the have been ... Further genetically modified? (Dr. Evil face) and they were AOBRmarines anyway. This is a better life for them.
The majority of them are just green though. I've been told it's not easy being green, but somehow I think they'll manage.
mullet_steve wrote:Hmmm at best I think maybe three weeks before Nyal has a cyber Ripper
As a longtime follower of this thread, you had a bit of an edge there. You know I'm savagely impulsive and wouldn't last that long.
3 weeks? Just under 3 hours.
I also made a brush, and painted a whole model with it. It was a difficult experience, this being my first brush that I made, but I think its a great step towards being "the hardcores" when it comes to claiming moral superiority of painting methods. Dip? Never. Wash? Get out. I see threads like that all the time, but I also use those methods ... all the time. And its not cheating. Its a technique. So In order to ascend to the ultimate in unimpeachable positions on the subject, I'm going to fashion my own brushes from hair that I grew from my own bod, bound in dog hair and sealed with tree sap. I'll use dyes that I procure from nature. Gonna peel blueberries and crush the skins for purple/blue dye, reds meticulously refined from my own blood.
While this may make me one step closer to a hermit that lives in a cave and hisses/ throws dung at intuders, I feel that it will also give me a very strong position to argue from. "Oh, you used a BRUSH? That you BOUGHT? No sir, YOU are the cheater. YOU have slacked off of the true path of painting purism, not I." And I will use this obviously very sane, very rational method to defend people that use dips and washes. Who will be able to argue THAT? You can't. You just pick your jaw up off the floor and get the frack out of my cave.
It is.
But out of curiosity, would it be any less weird if it was someone else's hair? The best brushes (IMO) are from sable hair, which are in the same family as ferrets and weasels. Is that not weird?
So for purism, I'm going to make brushes from my own hair, from materials that I gather from nature. Anything else would be "Cheating". I'll try my very best to restrain myself from being overly crude or graphic with this project, but the point of it will be ridiculous. It has to be, or else the parody falls apart. Threads like "Is army painter really fair?" or "Is dipping cheating?" crawl under my skin, as it undermines the truth of talent being involved. A person with a magic pencil that can draw whatever they imagine has to first imagine what they want to draw, and are limited by imagination. A person with a can of Minwax polyshade suffers the same problem.
So yes, it is my hair. I'm gonna go pre-medieval on this problem.
Even pre-medieval people used horse hair. But meh.. to each his own. I prefer Mandrill hair personally. You can see I just plucked some new bristles.(he's angry) Gives the brush an exotic feel. Just don't tell anyone about my panda hair brush I smuggled out of China.
Don't they issue you horses and Peacemakers at the state line?
Cyberripper looks cool by the way. And I commend you for taking 'painting purism' to its furthest logical extreme. Sometimes it seems like the best way to point out the ridiculousness of something is just to actually do it all the way.
Interestingly enough, no. No they don't.
Its a funny perception though, one that I get a lot. I've had clients who are surprised by my lack of a drawl, or that I've never owned a pair of cowboy boots or seen a tumbleweed.
I've never even had a saloon shootout.
It must be because I live in the 4th largest city in the US, and pretty much everywhere else can be viewed by me to be a backwater hellhole without all the amenities that I enjoy.
Its good to hear support on the painting thing, because I can definitely see how one could wonder if I'd snapped.
Edit: I sometimes do.
I just spent the last 3 hours of work reading this thread and am delighted to find it still alive.
I love all of your conversions DT, please keep up the good work. On a related note, I found the lack of penises and vaginas dissapointing in the last 10 pages.
Is it weird that I'm watching this human hair brush project with a view to copying it if it works well? I'm vegan and have to stick to synthetic brushes
Well, let me preface my answer that the difference between the brush I made and my 10/0 masters touch spotter cannot be told. Which of the models on page 32 was painted with that brush? One of them was, but which?
Pretty good job, I'd say. Just took a little longer, and the mistakes will be corrected on the next brush.
And what does it matter where they came from? Hair is hair. There exists a greater than zero possibilty that they are my pubes, but that's just hearsay!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Hearsay that is 100% accurate.
lindsay40k wrote:Is it weird that I'm watching this human hair brush project with a view to copying it if it works well? I'm vegan and have to stick to synthetic brushes
...I'm not trying to be a jerk, I am genuinely curious, can vegans use people-products? I am aware that you don't use animal products including cheese, leather, eggs, fur, or animal hair. Is it okay if it comes from a human? How far does that extend?
I'm not trying to be a butt, I've just never thought about how vegans would approach human-based products.
lindsay40k wrote:Is it weird that I'm watching this human hair brush project with a view to copying it if it works well? I'm vegan and have to stick to synthetic brushes
...I'm not trying to be a jerk, I am genuinely curious, can vegans use people-products? I am aware that you don't use animal products including cheese, leather, eggs, fur, or animal hair. Is it okay if it comes from a human? How far does that extend?
I'm not trying to be a butt, I've just never thought about how vegans would approach human-based products.
I do not think that Vegans have problem with "People Products" because people can say "Yes" or "No" Animals cannot. It isn't about liking or not liking meat or animal products for the most part, it is about what is given and what is taken, IIRC.
If I actually liked swineflesh, then sure, a pig that could give informed consent to be eaten would come under the same philosophical category as that bloke who let the German cannibal kill and eat him.
Speaking of pig type things, it occurs to me that my counts-as-Grotsnik Mad Doc design veers into 'potentially offensive' territory.
Doc Ulkskab is a doctor with a beard who goes around injecting friend and foe with Genestealer phage cells. His name is derived from the Ork words for 'ship' and 'untrustworthy individual'.
I'm planning a complementary Big Mek with KFF and some massive sideburns. Finding the etymology of 'Frederick' to be 'Peace Rule', the best I can come up with is 'Nakrumpnob', meaning 'Not noisy authority'; seems to fit the most senior unarmed defensive unit. 'West' can best be translated to 'Uz', meaning 'sun' - west being sunwise, and east being widdershins. I'll work on Nakrumpnob Uz's design when I've got a box of Lootas with the bitz I'll have available to me.
Update on the progress of my Ninja Turtles. Minimum broodlord squad is 5 with the broodlord, so it will fit perfectly with 4 Turtle genestealers and a broodlord Splinter.
Going to make some bases with goo dripping on the mini adrenal gland/ toxin sac turtles.
Splinter will be the "Queek Headhunter" Skaven model minus the trophy rack and with a weapon swap.
Heres a step by step:
-50/50 mix of dheneb stone and bleached bone, plus a lot of rubbing alcohol (dries faster) gets painted on over the bate gray models. Two coats if neccessary, dries in about a minute anyway.
-Creatix airbrush transparent green. I paint it on, and it dries clear. Gives it that slimy look. It's the same green that I used on the ghosts, only without the glow paint to lighten it. Two layers of this gives the paint a weird depth effect with lots of different hues.
-bubonic brown abs, catachan green shell.
-the muscle slits will be painted the same color as the headband for each turtle. Orange, red, purple, and blue.
The transparent airbrush line from Creatix is really changing the ease that I can paint cool effects. I used to rely on mixing the paints with GW water effects. I'll toss a paint tub in with the models I'm sending you, Jim. Try painting it over a superglue blob, it's how I'm going to make my goo. Same color, but without the whitish undercoat, will look totally different.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, I also mix my paints with alcohol rather than water. It evaporates many many times quicker and so I never worry about gravity affecting the painting. It also allows for the paint to pool the same way as water, but with transparent paint this means the same effect as doing several layers in one spot, without the hassle of painting over and over.
I'm going to try painting a transparent red over a yellow for lava effects, I'll post my results.
Not sure about metalics, but if it's acrylic based paint I would guess a no. No ill effects that I've noticed, but I'm not exactly scrubbing it on, more like flowing it on like a wash.
Yes of course, Batboy. Greenstuff and purity seals, complete with weapons.
More progress. Weapons need painting, and the eyes need dotting in, and some minor touchups of the green.
Other than that, I think that everything is coming along very nicely.
Ok, we're at the point of just needing touch ups and nice basing. Maybe some pizza. Oh, and Splinter.
Manchu, thanks again for the idea. For everything, really.
Great end work. I love the sai especially. But they are all quite well done! I'm looking forward to seeing Splinter and the rest of them all done up and based on pizza slabs.
*hides his brand new TMNT comic which just started a new series last week*
Nah in all seriousness, great idea! Disturbing as hell, but great
Disturbing?
Sit back and hold on to your value structure. Poppa is about to blow your mind.
Kevin Eastman. Heard of him?
Notable works include TMNT, but also Heavy Metal.
No, not the musical style. The Magazine (and movie!) that focuses on Sci fi art (cool), music (love it), and erotica (hold up, what?).
Do some google searches for some images. I'll wait.
Yeah! I know, right?! Seems all kinds of artists have pervy demons all up ins.
Be comforted though that the route with these Turtles seems clean.
Just surfing through the madness and win that is your thread. Your sig is also made of win. And it appears everything that constitutes your reasons for having this thread are righteous.
In addition, the continued success and existence is a testimony to the win that is Dakkadakka.
Doomthumbs wrote:Yeah, I'm actively trying to trade for a Queek Headhunter skaven model.
Take your pick of the nids posted here in trade, folks. Or commission some conversion work of your own.
I'm tempted to take this offer up for the Hentaithrope... very reluctant to grab finecast off eBay though, I've seen enough dodgy ones to only feel safe buying in a GW or large indie stockist.
I mean it, people, brace for impact. Catheterize yourselves.
I mentioned a few posts back about my wanting to go full on natural with a paintjob. "Purist" to couteract the "Puerile" claims that methods such as dipping are cheating. That by using minwax, you're devaluing the model industry with your childish scrawling of paint followed by a dunk.
I believe my stance was "Eff that."
So here is the start of my hardcore paint job. I made my own brush, primer coat, and dip.
I'm sure I'll talk about it more in the posts to follow, but let me walk you through the basics.
The brush: I whittled a small stick free of its bark, and dragged a razor across it to smooth it. I then used tree sap to bind a clump of my own hair into a bundle. It took about a day to fully dry out in the sun. Then split the tip of the twig, and broke out half of the split to form a crude socket for this clump of hair. More tree sap, followed by half of the drying time. When the sap was almost dry I mashed small rocks and dirt into it, and let these dry to form more of a wall around the hair to keep it in place.
The primer coat: I went online to find natural paint, and this took some doing. I found a recipe for face paint that included equal parts of corn starch and flour, mixed with a little water, and some glycerine. Wtf was that last one? Oh, its for binding purposes, so once it dries it wont cake and dust off. Well I don't have any fancy glycerine. I used baby fluid. Don't you judge me, don't you dare judge me. I see your gallery, and it is full of acrylic paints, cheater. Mixed it with my finger, because I'm freaky like that.
The first coat of color: I froze blueberries so that I could peel the skin off easier once they had thawed a bit. But then it hit me. No, I'm not going to crush the paint on with my fingers, as I had originally intended. I'm going to make a dip. So I crushed about 2 cups of blueberries into a paste. Swirled my model around in it.
The rest is pictures, I tire of words. More to come later.
I'd suggest, if you live near a coastline, to try to get some fresh squid for a black ink dip. While you haven't harvested the squid in question yourself, I'm sure you'd be able to barter some of your paintbrushes to an organic fisherman or something to get one.
I'd bet you'd be able to mix blood or some crushed grass juice to the paint to get a red or green for details as well.
Don't forget more tree sap/crushed insects in glycerine for a varnish finish!
Fishermen have long scary knives. No brushes for them. No ink for me.
Get out of my head. I AM going to mix the green from st augustine grass stains to try and make a mottled tone to go with the berry juice.
I do intend to use my own blood on the muscle slits and back, as well as the tongue.
I'm making my own charcoal out of willow cuttings for the black wash, and using cedar sap for the final gloss.
You could even shame the people that use real grass on their bases, and instead use your own hair, painstakingly painted with your green paint and washed with the berry ink wash. "You had to use actual grass for your model base? Amateur."
Only thing left is to whittle a genestealer from a treebranch you broke off using an obsidian knife you flintknapped yourself...
EDIT: Oh, man, give him a tiny little axe with a tiny stone blade, like the guy from the Gary Paulsen book Hatchet
I'm only out to shame the people that call out other people for using any technique to achieve something that looks decent, so no, I'm not going to do that.
Whatever they use, if it ends up looking good, and works for them, that's ok by me.
I'm definitely not trying to say that I'm better than anyone. That kind of thought pattern is what makes people... well, douchebags. I'm just a dude, and so are you. Unless you're a lady, and even then you're just a lady.
Better results than expected from this next step. There is this evergreen tree outside (unsure of the type of tree) that has these weird globular pine ball things.
So in search of colors, I split it open. Huge score.
There is this dark, gooey resin inside. It looks dark brown, but when smeared, it turns yellow and green. YES. I smeared some over the genestealer with the brush.
Did the mottling trick with the berries really easily.
Yes, Mr. Thornberry has the proper junk in the trunk.
That stealer looks amazing actually, and I'm vaguely tempted to try this for myself and my stealers that have been laying around. I can't wait to see what it'll look like in the next few steps!
I could be wrong, but I think the growth from your evergreen tree is actually a kind of fungus, if it is what I think it is. (It is a little hard to tell from the picture.)
I wonder what the life expectancy of the colors you have will be.... natural pigments will break down over time.... it will be interesting to see how long it takes and what happens.
That stealer is really looking good! I'm still curious as to how well that paint job will hold up to the basic wear/tear or touching it during a game or just time, but the look you're achieving is very impressive!
Its going to hold up well I think.
I mean, the last layer I put on was pretty sticky resin. That is now baking in the sun. I dont think the colors will fade from oxygenation because they're going to have a resin barrier between them and the air. How colorfast was the mosquito from Jurassic Park? The genestealer is going to be around that long.
Jim- I don't think its fungus. Its more like little pinecones.
Doomthumbs wrote:Better results than expected from this next step. There is this evergreen tree outside (unsure of the type of tree) that has these weird globular pine ball things.
So in search of colors, I split it open. Huge score.
There is this dark, gooey resin inside. It looks dark brown, but when smeared, it turns yellow and green. YES. I smeared some over the genestealer with the brush.
Did the mottling trick with the berries really easily.
The crazy thing is: That model looks better than some other stuff I've seen. And those other guys didn't even make their own brushes or paints.
Rawson wrote:The crazy thing is: That model looks better than some other stuff I've seen. And those other guys didn't even make their own brushes or paints.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Its not even done. I'm gonna fill in the back, and then repaint the claws and such white. The brush being incredible crude I think is helping. I'm going for a very uneven splochy coat.
The work that got done next is as follows:
I repainted the claws and fingertips with the white paste, and took the end of the brush (a stick) and dabbed in the teeth to the best of my ability.
The brush is now almost completely ruined.
I touched over some places with a blueberry skin, darkening the purples and blending them a little into the yellowy green of the main body. Nice and bruised, necrotic tones from this. Very evocative of a genestealer that has just banged his limbs against power armor over and over, bruising them all to hell.
Now comes the painful bit. I took a razor and sliced down the little green thumbtack that comes in tubes of crazy glue to open the tube. Whittled down the outside diameter until it could fit into the barrel of my air pistol (you can see it in one of the pictures, sitting on the chair). I pumped the gun once (minimal velocity is the name of the game here, also not trying to give myself an embolism) and fired it into the meat of my right thigh. I'll spare you the pictures on that. Little pinprick of the house red wells up, and I dip the stick into it and smear it onto the genestealer. I washed the stick beforehand, and had sterilized the pin with a lighter.
Its now pretty much finished except for the base. For a glue, I took long grain basmati rice and soaked it for about an hour, then boiled the crap out of it until the water was mostly gone. Hooray for primitive glue. Sprinkle some dirt heavy with decaying pine needlles, and its finished. One all natural Nurgle themed Genestealer.
Now, for all you self righteous painters who have never dipped a model, who think army painter is cheating, who think any kind of corner cutting devalues your hobby, I say to you:
I approve of these methods and others whole heartedly, if they result in any saved time or generate visually stimulating results on a model.
Argue if you'd like, but I'll bet you used a store bought brush. Cheater. And paint? Ha! Who uses paint, anyways?
Man up and do it the real way instead of cutting corners, ye naysayers! You can't touch this moral high ground!
Everyone else, please continue doing what you do.
Dude, this looks awesome. I think that the blueberry stain actually looks like a technique worth using. Having topcoated it, do you find it sticky to handle? Any adverse effects whatsoever?
Doomthumbs, you sir, are a god among men, and when god destroys the earth because of the filth you have created, you shall take to the sky on said filth, and truly ascend to your rightful place as a god. a god of Pwnography
I, sir, ride for Doomthumbs, to smite the haters out there
I've used skull. Bone's such a fun material to use!
Actually, that's what you could do, Doomthumbs! Make a 'nid out of bone! Chicked or other similarly sized vertibrae work well for Biovore backs, and small toe, finger and tail bones (as well as some of the smaller ribs) can be used to make limbs. Some sort of natural clay to fill in the gaps and sculpt the fleshy bits out of...
Oh, and a great way to do skin/wing membranes is to hard boil eggs, then peel them, taking care to get the inner-shell membrane off in one piece. Layer that over whatever you're using as the under frame, and let it dry. It hardens and shrinks, becoming pretty tough in the process. It also takes superglue pretty well.
The goal is not to smite haters, but the willfully ignorant.
Haters gonna hate is actually more like haters gonna maybe make some valid points that I can learn from.
A policy of actively ignoring dissenting opinion is a bad policy.
Thinking that there is only praise and not considering differing opinions at all... That way lies full blown sociopathy.
That said, the blood is still bright red. Truly, a miracle from Khorne.
Well, hot damn. Those are some nice looking genestealers you got going there. I love the way the blueberry one came out. He looks so... so damn amazing! Keep it up, DT!
I've got Leonardo totally done, and scenic bases on the way for the other three. Still no splinter...
But I've got a sewer dropping goo on a turtle.
Donatello will have some kind of machine on his base, most likely a mouser.
Raphael will have a manhole cover.
Michelangelo gets a pizza box.
mullet_steve wrote:I think your a bit late... Apparently Doomthumbs was so awesome he got repremanded straight off the site.... alas poor doomthumbs we knew him horatio!
This cannot be true. Less there be rioting in the streets.
We must storm the MODS/ADMINS castle and demand an explanation. FOR DOOMTHUMBS
EDIT: I went on the member list, clicked on find a specific user, typed in Doomthumbs, and I got sent to his profile page, I think that he hasn't been banned, maybe just temporally suspended.
As much as I would like to agree I'm afraid the mods won't publicly justify or explain why anyone was banned due to certain issues such as confidentiality and such... however I believe the issue that tipped the balance was Doomthumbs posting from other poeples accounts. That is technicaly a banning offence I'm afraid so as much as I'd love to get doomthumbs back I think a pettition would be more usefull than storming anyones inbox.
As long as it's not for the content of his blog... I don't have anything to say about it, as the details allude me. Hopefully it will not be a permanent sentence.
Now where is this petition thread? I must sign it!
I never knew the man personally but from what i have witnessed I know him to be a genius , when i first saw his phallic hive mind i knew that instant he was a man that stood for the rarest of things ... a true visionary of our times .
Wish thee well Doomthumbs on thy great sabbatical.
lets raise our Kraken Phallus to the maestro...
"Doomthumbs" a man for whom innuendo is just not enough
In a hobby where creativeness is set up to thrive, Doomthumbs is one of the most original and visionary hobbyists out there, really going out of his way to show us what could be done with the hobby if you really wanted to.
I think he was round his mates house, his mate had dakka up on his computer and he did the stupid thing of not logging in under his own name to save time... or thats what i have gathered. Don't know if it's true
mullet_steve wrote:I think he was round his mates house, his mate had dakka up on his computer and he did the stupid thing of not logging in under his own name to save time... or thats what i have gathered. Don't know if it's true
If that's the case I'm sure it's only a suspension. As Reds8n said on the other thread it's pretty unusual for someone to get banned permanently, especially for something so innocuous.
Yeah, just because someone is banned doesn't always mean they remove their profile. I still have GWAR! on my friends list, after all. I do hope it's just a suspension, though.
EDIT: Having read reds8n's reply before locking the petition thread, I don't have a lot of hope.
The impression I got from the mod statement wasn't that he'd crossed a 'temp suspension' line but that he'd been judged to have crossed another more serious line we haven't heard about.
To tide us over until DT or a sockpuppet returns, here's my Snikrot's scrotum. No, it's not an innocent toxin gland, it's a testicular sac. Even though neither Orks nor Genestealers produce taddies.
Well, it looks like (apart from checking back every so often to see if he's really still gone) I'm done checking dakka.
This thread provided endless amounts of creative energy and just flat out cool stuff.
Had no idea what a non-newtonian fluid was before this thread, specifically the boombox fex.
Love the organically painted genestealer and am considering using that paint job on my Nurgle marines. It's just too appropriately cool not to.
So, later folks...
I ride for doomthumbs. Heed not the annouying one nor heed the famous. Heed those that push the wall. Doomthumbs pushed on the wall till it feel right on him. Now we dig him out, and walk out of the wall.
Begin the spamm my fellow mates. Make the mods wish they never messed with doomthumbs. Swarm more then a tryanid hive fleet, a ork waghh. have more fury then a blood angel more brute force then a terminator. Show them your fire. And burn them alive!
Lt. Coldfire wrote:If someone makes a graphic, posts it here, then I will put it in my sig. God knows my current sig pic is overdue for a replacement anyways.
cormadepanda wrote:Begin the spamm my fellow mates. Make the mods wish they never messed with doomthumbs.
This kind of talk will get this thread locked, and possibly get folks in trouble. I'm all for throwing a graphic in a signature to remember a fallen brother, but it's still the mods' sandbox. We just get to play in it.
Lt. Coldfire wrote:If someone makes a graphic, posts it here, then I will put it in my sig. God knows my current sig pic is overdue for a replacement anyways.
This kind of talk will get this thread locked, and possibly get folks in trouble.
QFT
Abso-fraggin-lutley. I was all for the "get Doomthumbs back" petition and any show of solidarity for a fallen brother but spam the mods inbox sounds like an idea made of fail and banned......
If the mods have banned him for life then they did so only after discussion and the reason must have been a good one.
so lets celebrate the good stuff Doomthumbs did with a sig piccy and remember the good (and horribly wrong) stuff he did that brought a little giggle to our days even if that giggle was followed by an EWWWWW!
mullet_steve wrote:If the mods have banned him for life then they did so only after discussion and the reason must have been a good one.
My only issue is how do we know it was a good reason? I'm fairly trusting of our mods and their judgement, but it seems like banning someone without at least saying what line they crossed would be like a judge holding a trial closed to the public (Okay, I guess) and sentencing the accussed without ever stating their crime. At least in actual closed court cases the public knows what the defendant stands accussed of, instead of wild guessing.
I'm not saying I want (or need) a blow-by-blow account of their transgressions, or the mod's decision-making process and individual reasoning for the ban, but at the very least I'd like to know why my favorite P&M blogger got shut down? If we then try to impose our own judgements of whether the ban was fair/unfair after hearing the issue, by all means shut us down ASAP, but at least knowing why he was banned would halt a lot of the eventual rumor-mongering in it's tracks.
Heck, non-transparent (To the DakkaDakka public) banning could quickly devolve into banning anyone who even slightly disagrees with a mod (Even politely) or a mod's friends if you were to eventually accidentally promote an unscrupulous mod. I'm not saying stop banning or make it a public decision. I'd just say a public record (Perhaps a locked General Discussion Sticky thread saying "User X was banned/suspended on X date for XYZ" would work). Just my $0.02...
TL;DR: I wanna know why Doombthumbs was banned, and I'll base my riding-for off of that. ..
mullet_steve wrote:If the mods have banned him for life then they did so only after discussion and the reason must have been a good one.
My only issue is how do we know it was a good reason? I'm fairly trusting of our mods and their judgement, but it seems like banning someone without at least saying what line they crossed would be like a judge holding a trial closed to the public (Okay, I guess) and sentencing the accussed without ever stating their crime. At least in actual closed court cases the public knows what the defendant stands accussed of, instead of wild guessing.
I'm not saying I want (or need) a blow-by-blow account of their transgressions, or the mod's decision-making process and individual reasoning for the ban, but at the very least I'd like to know why my favorite P&M blogger got shut down? If we then try to impose our own judgements of whether the ban was fair/unfair after hearing the issue, by all means shut us down ASAP, but at least knowing why he was banned would halt a lot of the eventual rumor-mongering in it's tracks.
Heck, non-transparent (To the DakkaDakka public) banning could quickly devolve into banning anyone who even slightly disagrees with a mod (Even politely) or a mod's friends if you were to eventually accidentally promote an unscrupulous mod. I'm not saying stop banning or make it a public decision. I'd just say a public record (Perhaps a locked General Discussion Sticky thread saying "User X was banned/suspended on X date for XYZ" would work). Just my $0.02...
TL;DR: I wanna know why Doombthumbs was banned, and I'll base my riding-for off of that. ..
Right now, the only picture we have is what Doomthumbs has said about the situation elsewhere on the internet.
I'll add to this an observation that I used to be part of another special interest forum (unrelated to wargaming) that became notorious amongst that community for having mods with hair-trigger banhammers accountable only to the site owner, not to the community in any way. I was amongst the forum users who felt that whilst the site owner obviously had rights and liabilities as the person legally responsible for the paperwork, there was not enough engagement with the user base to feel that forum membership was desirable - and took our contributions (in terms of content and funds) elsewhere.
I really want to remain part of , and have been considering DCM. I have to have strong confidence in a site's organisation to make such a step, and issues such as a fair suspension procedure are a part of that.
I'd just like to add that I registered here because of this very thread (so blame Doomthumbs for me being here) and I believe my first post ever was in this thread as well.
The mods do discuss this and if they believe Doomthumbs deserved to be banned for some reason, then okay, he probably did. yes I will miss him, but comments like spam them achieves nothing, and is the kind of stuff that could escalate, and eventually lead to suspensions and threadlocks.
Deciding bannings/suspensions is completely within their purview and I don't dispute that, since justice via mob is a really poor idea.
However, not informing the public of the basic problems that led to the ban undermines trust in their authority, as we have no way of knowing if he was banned for language, ad spam, threats, or simply picking his nose the wrong way (All conjecture, btw! See how the problems start?...). Worse yet, without knowing why he was banned, we have no idea if he may have been banned for questionable reasons. I doubt he was, but without knowing I can't dismiss that possibility.
I agree the "I ride for Doomthumbs" or "Bring doombthunmbs back!" is a bit over the edge, especially if his ban was on legitimate grounds (Which I'm fairly confident it was). However, I strongly disagree that asking the mods to address the grounds on which he was banned is "Spam."
nectarprime wrote:Many forums have a list of users that were banned and they give a brief description as to the reason. Something like that would be nice here.
Exactly! Usually if someone was banned because of what they were saying in a thread, unless the posts were deleted, it's usually self-evident why. But afaik, the "using someone else's profile with their permission to post" is the only line crossed, which seems (Warning! Warning! Personal conjectures ahead!) to be nowhere near enough for a full ban: Warning? Definately. Suspension? Sure. Ban? Seems a bit harsh imo, especially since I can't find anything in the Code of Conduct forbidding it . (/Conjectures)
I thought the last thing I saw Doomthumbs posting was a series of pictures he said he was banned from another site for posting, maybe that was someone else though.
Guys and Girls. Many of you know, that Doomthumbs and I are good friends IRL, and I have spoken with Doomthumbs personally, and I would like to clear up a few things just to kinda fill in the gaps for those who HAVE TO KNOW!
I understand Mods do not discuss the terms of Suspensions/Bannings, so I will not go in depth about this and (justifiably so) earn myself a suspension...
Doomy has been part of a "misunderstanding" and the Mods have decided that given his already "controversial" nature, previous NSFW subject matter, and heated discussions with some who would disagree, it would be a plus to give Dakka a vacation from Doomthumbs.
I can see both sides. I ,unequivocably, side with Doomthumbs on this one, (given I know all the parties involved in the misunderstanding) and while I have been suspended myself for my firery right-wing rhetoric in the OT threads, I can ABSOLUTELY see the MODs side and understand what has been done has been done in spirit of equally enforcing the rules of Dakka,
....not some vandetta-esq attempt to censor our favorite degenerate.
I will say again that Doomykins was suspended, not banned, and will be returning soon, so lets not start a revolution, so to speak, and unintentionally create a pariah whose value would be outweighed by his liability.
Gawds Willing, "The Maplethorpe of Dakka" will return sooner than you can say "Transgender Carnifex Genetailia."
Cool, thanks to you and DT for keeping us in the know. I deliberately made the banner so as not to be over the line, so I guess it wouldn't be controversial to keep it around until team NSFW are complete again
I'll remark that a lot of this escalation and speculation could have been avoided with a simple 'this member's account is suspended' notification on suspended profiles (that would not have raised any privacy issues), and say IMO the matter is closed.
However, if we're to keep this thread out the graveyard, there's going to have to be some life support. Anyone else got anything icky they can show and tell?
I'll add to this an observation that I used to be part of another special interest forum (unrelated to wargaming) that became notorious amongst that community for having mods with hair-trigger banhammers accountable only to the site owner, not to the community in any way. I was amongst the forum users who felt that whilst the site owner obviously had rights and liabilities as the person legally responsible for the paperwork, there was not enough engagement with the user base to feel that forum membership was desirable - and took our contributions (in terms of content and funds) elsewhere.