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Made in us
Fixture of Dakka






.................................... Searching for Iscandar

From this thread:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/215966.page

Needs some guidance I think.

This isn't an all-powerful uber list, but it is way better for the points.

2500 Pts - Eldar Mech

1 Autarch @ 72 Pts
Fleet; Independent Character; Master Strategist; Forceshield (FShld); Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Avenger S-Catapult (ASC); Haywire Grenades (HayG); Plasma Grenades (PG)

1 Autarch @ 72 Pts
Fleet; Independent Character; Master Strategist; Forceshield (FShld); Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Avenger S-Catapult (ASC); Haywire Grenades (HayG); Plasma Grenades (PG)

4 Fire Dragons @ 232 Pts
Fleet; Fusion Gun (Fg); Melta Bombs
1 Fire Dragon Exarch @ [33] Pts
Fleet; Crack Shot (CS); Dragon's Breath Flamer; Melta Bombs
1 Wave Serpent @ [135] Pts
Energy Field (Wave Serpent); TL Shuriken Catapult (TL-Scat); TL Bright Lances (TL-BL)

4 Fire Dragons @ 232 Pts
Fleet; Fusion Gun (Fg); Melta Bombs
1 Fire Dragon Exarch @ [33] Pts
Fleet; Crack Shot (CS); Dragon's Breath Flamer; Melta Bombs
1 Wave Serpent @ [135] Pts
Energy Field (Wave Serpent); TL Shuriken Catapult (TL-Scat); TL Bright Lances (TL-BL)

4 Fire Dragons @ 232 Pts
Fleet; Fusion Gun (Fg); Melta Bombs
1 Fire Dragon Exarch @ [33] Pts
Fleet; Crack Shot (CS); Dragon's Breath Flamer; Melta Bombs
1 Wave Serpent @ [135] Pts
Energy Field (Wave Serpent); TL Shuriken Catapult (TL-Scat); TL Bright Lances (TL-BL)

0 Guardian Squad @ 262 Pts
Fleet
10 G Storm Squad @ [92] Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Flamer (x2)
1 Warlock @ [35] Pts
Psyker; Destructor ; Fleet; Rune Armour (RAmr); Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Witchblade (WB)
1 Wave Serpent @ [135] Pts
Energy Field (Wave Serpent); TL Shuriken Catapult (TL-Scat); TL Bright Lances (TL-BL)

0 Guardian Squad @ 262 Pts
Fleet
10 G Storm Squad @ [92] Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Flamer (x2)
1 Warlock @ [35] Pts
Psyker; Destructor ; Fleet; Rune Armour (RAmr); Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Witchblade (WB)
1 Wave Serpent @ [135] Pts
Energy Field (Wave Serpent); TL Shuriken Catapult (TL-Scat); TL Bright Lances (TL-BL)

0 Guardian Squad @ 262 Pts
Fleet
10 G Storm Squad @ [92] Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Flamer (x2)
1 Warlock @ [35] Pts
Psyker; Destructor ; Fleet; Rune Armour (RAmr); Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Witchblade (WB)
1 Wave Serpent @ [135] Pts
Energy Field (Wave Serpent); TL Shuriken Catapult (TL-Scat); TL Bright Lances (TL-BL)

0 Guardian Squad @ 262 Pts
Fleet
10 G Storm Squad @ [92] Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Flamer (x2)
1 Warlock @ [35] Pts
Psyker; Destructor ; Fleet; Rune Armour (RAmr); Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Witchblade (WB)
1 Wave Serpent @ [135] Pts
Energy Field (Wave Serpent); TL Shuriken Catapult (TL-Scat); TL Bright Lances (TL-BL)

0 Guardian Squad @ 262 Pts
Fleet
10 G Storm Squad @ [92] Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Flamer (x2)
1 Warlock @ [35] Pts
Psyker; Destructor ; Fleet; Rune Armour (RAmr); Shuriken Pistol (Sp); Witchblade (WB)
1 Wave Serpent @ [135] Pts
Energy Field (Wave Serpent); TL Shuriken Catapult (TL-Scat); TL Bright Lances (TL-BL)

1 Fire Prism @ 115 Pts
TL Shuriken Catapult (TL-Scat); Prism Cannon (PC)

1 Fire Prism @ 115 Pts
TL Shuriken Catapult (TL-Scat); Prism Cannon (PC)

1 Fire Prism @ 115 Pts
TL Shuriken Catapult (TL-Scat); Prism Cannon (PC)

Total Roster Cost: 2495

   
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Hamburg

A rock solid list. You left the Prisms naked. Holofields often lead to weapon-destroyed results. No stones on the vehicles? Could be useful for moving them around and contesting objectives. Autarchs are naked, too. Their task is to improve reserve rolls, nothing else. Makes sense since in cc they die anyway.

Former moderator 40kOnline

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Made in us
Fixture of Dakka






.................................... Searching for Iscandar

Correct analysis on the Prisms. I've been trying to tell people that, but they aren't grasping it. "BUT IT LIVES AND CAN TANK SHOCK". Meh.

Why bring stones? They need to roll a "2" on the table else I'm not stunned.

That 15 point extra armor for Rhinos in the new Dexes is really insulting.

I say, eff it. If they stun, fine they stun. I wouldn't count on it happening as any kind of 'strategy' though.

Autarchs die in CC? Say it ain't so.

   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka






.................................... Searching for Iscandar

Oh and thank you for the compliment. Nice to see someone post that on the board and not via PM or email.

   
Made in de
Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator






Hamburg

Autarchs die in CC? Say it ain't so.

I guess you put the Autarchs into the Guardians' Serpents. They should avoid cc anyway. Stay in the backfield for a while and target armored units with bright lances. Then take or contest objectives in the end-game.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/08/10 10:02:07


Former moderator 40kOnline

Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!

Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a "" I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."

Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss 
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka






.................................... Searching for Iscandar

Well the guardians can give hordes two flamers and a heavy flamer (that usually means dead hordes).

BL are good for the MC spam and vehicle spam I expect to see at the Ard Boyz.

Especially hole lists like the one I'm going to run.

Going to have fun with it, win or lose. I'm determined to be a but a fun one, this year. lol

   
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Hamburg

How would you trim this list list down to 2000 pts? Or would you take another approach?

Former moderator 40kOnline

Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!

Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a "" I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."

Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss 
   
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Fixture of Dakka






.................................... Searching for Iscandar

Toss the Guardian wave serpents x2.

Prisms give you anti-infantry, the fire dragons give you anti-elites and anti-vehicle.

Guardians are pure chaff but the vehicle spam is gold.

   
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Hamburg

Toss the Guardian wave serpents x2.

This gives you 3 scoring units. Should be fine.

Former moderator 40kOnline

Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!

Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a "" I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."

Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss 
   
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I disagree- 3 scoring units is not enough in 2500. Even if you are fairly likely to contest most objectives because of the point limit, all your opponent has to do is destroy your scorers and hold one objective.

If you do manage to contest all objectives with elites etc., you might well win on VPs thanks to all the Serpent hanging around not getting shot at much.

I dunno- it looks like this list would have trouble with basic Marines in quantity.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/08/13 03:06:44


Infinity: Way, way better than 40K and more affordable to boot!

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reading comp, duder. he would drop the guardians for a 2000 point list, not the 2500. maybe it's a typo on your part.
   
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Yep, typo. 3 in 2500 would be insane. 3 in 2000 is not enough.

Infinity: Way, way better than 40K and more affordable to boot!

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