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Hi, I'm new to the forum so thought I'd post my army list as I promised in my Introduction thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/226914.page#513958.

So here it is;

Big Mek w/ 'eavy Armour, Cybork Body, KFF, Grot Oiler - 105

Big Mek w/ Cybork Body, KFF, Grot Oiler - 100

15 Lootas - 225

20 Choppa Boyz; Nob w/ PK, Bosspole - 160

20 Shoota Boyz; Nob w/ PK, Bosspole; 1 Big Shoota, 1 Rokkit Launcha - 180

20 Shoota Boyz; Nob w/ PK, Bosspole; 2 Big Shoota - 170

20 Shoota Boyz; Nob w/ PK, Bosspole; 2 Big Shoota - 170

3 Killa Kanz w/ Big Shootas - 120

3 Killa Kanz w/ Big Shootas - 120

3 Killa Kanz w/ Rokkit Launchas - 150

Any tips and help will be more than welcome, thanks in advance guys!

i would consider to make your slugga boyz, shoota boyz as well. a lot of fire power that is. 80 shoota boyz, hmmmm.
i would also make 1 unit of 15 lootas. a lot more survivable. 8 strong is just to little. 3 casualties and they go running.
i would idd try to find the points for some KMB on one squadron of kans to go tankhunting.
the strategy looks sound to me.

Rokkit Launca's would be better than KMB cause KMB arent Ap so no +1, theyre the same but KMB get hot. But yeah, I'm trying to find points for rokkits on killa kanz. I was thinking of your idea of 15 in one unit before you posted actually
Plus it'd give me 25 points to upgrade big shootas to rokkit launchas!
I think i'll do that, infact. I'll edit the original list. Thanks man.

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well, I'd be inclined to upgrade 2 squads of killakanz to rokkits for reassurance.

Also as a returning Ork player, I've been finding out just how much fun burnaz are, I took a squad of BloodAxe Kommandos recently with a burna and they did all kinds of horrible things to my Tau opponent and really redirected his fire away from the main force.

Oh and Aidanator1... zog off ya trollin git.

To MeanGreenStompa; I'm actually usuing Burna models to proxy Lootas and because both cost 15 in friendly games ill be swapping between wether I want them as burnas or not
In friendlies flame templates tend to do very well, whereas in tournaments basically its just losing an ork for every burna!
Wish I could find the points, man! Extra 30 points for each squad!
IF you've got any ideas how I could get the points, it'd be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

I like the list. lots of orks is solid.

the only advice i'd humble offer as a speed freak general...is that orks are really bad at shooting! and if my memory serves me correct the rokkits on killa kans aren't twin linked? where as they are twin linked on warbuggies and deffkoptas.

so if you want some more ranged rokkit shots they could be an option for you.

Thanks, s.j.mccartney! But the Killa Kanz resistance to fire (plus theyre BS3 rather than BS2 ) Their armour 11 and +1BS are worth it compared to the vulnerable deffkoptas and warbuggies, plus they're more useful on the charge too! Thanks dude!

No problems. hope you have much oomie killing joy!

have shoota boyz not choppaz ands take away the PK so you can add more stuff

I kept the one squad of choppas for the counter attack with a whopping 101 attacks on the charge! 6 of those being powerklaw attacks!
After the Waagh!, believe it or not, there's still left overs! Because this unit wipes out enemy units that much quicker it can be used to support other units or take down stragglers in the 3/4th turn! Hence not having all shoota.

I use this justification and method because I'm purchasing Assault on Black Reach and it has 20 Slugga boyz

This is a very solid list and is a perfect all-comers list. Not out of balance and would be a lot of fun to play against. Good job. Have fun painting all those orks. One thing that I did was paint all the clothes and pants the same color, but helmets/armbands and other highlights in one color/per mob. That way it was easier to set up, and distinguish which mob is which when playing.

That's a good idea actually, bluedevil27. What about my Boyz with no helmets or wristbands? =P
I was thinking of maybe painting the rims of bases different colours for each squad but keep whats on the base and colour schemes the same as bases wound be more profounded and maybe nicer! I'm going to test that actually, was a spur of the moment idea!

What do you think?

Joining the squads with give you enough points to take some nifty upgrades:

Big Mek w/ Cybork Body, KFF - 95
Big Mek w/ Cybork Body, KFF - 95

15 Lootas - 225

30 Shoota Boyz; Nob w/ PK, Bosspole; 3 Big Shoota - 235
30 Shoota Boyz; Nob w/ PK, Bosspole; 3 Big Shoota - 235
20 Slugga or Shoota Boyz; Nob w/ PK, Bosspole; 1 Big Shoota - 165

3 Killa Kanz w/ Rokkit Launchas - 150
3 Killa Kanz w/ Rokkit Launchas - 150
3 Killa Kanz w/ Rokkit Launchas - 150

Prophet of Dakka; My second list is sort of like this but instead of combining units I swap Killa Kanz squad for a Deff Dread with 2 rokkit launchas, change the big shootas to rokkit launchas on the Killa Kanz and gives the second big mek eavy armour, too, instead of the 1st Big Meks Grot Oiler.

So it looks abit like this;

Big Mek w/ 'eavy Armour, Cybork Body, KFF - 100

Big Mek w/ 'eavy Armour, Cybork Body, KFF - 100

15 Lootas - 225

20 Choppa Boyz; Nob w/ PK, Bosspole - 160

20 Shoota Boyz; Nob w/ PK, Bosspole; 2 Rokkit Launchas - 180

20 Shoota Boyz; Nob w/ PK, Bosspole; 2 Big Shoota - 170

20 Shoota Boyz; Nob w/ PK, Bosspole; 2 Big Shoota - 170

3 Killa Kanz w/ Rokkit Launchas - 120

3 Killa Kanz w/ Rokkit Launchas - 120

Deff Dread w/ 2 Rokkit Launchas - 95


Thanks in advance!

The Deff Dread can be more survivable and even cheaper if you give him 2 Skorchas and Grot Riggers. I use that configuration and mine hasn't been blown up too much (worst case was when he lost both of his arms and a Skorcha to Pedro).

Skorchas aside, Grot Riggers help so much. I had my Dread get Immobilized twice in one game, Riggers fixed him both times.

The 2 Skorcha/Riggers configuration costs 90 points. Not sure of what you'd do with 5 points though, maybe give one of your Kans a KMB

are deff dreads really worth the points? i used to think killa kans were the right choice

A lot of people say Deff Dreads suck. I tell them that they obviously haven't used one if they can say that with a straight face.

"My Walker costs 155 points. Quite cheap for something so devastating, if you ask me."

"Cool. I get a Walker who's better in CC, has more weapons, can repair itself, looks cool, counts as a Troops coice, and has more attacks. All that for 90 points."

Nofasse 'Eadhunta; Skorchas aren't as all rounders as big shootas and aren't anti high av (which I need in my army) so wouldnt really be worth it for me. Plus KMB are just rokkit launchas with Ap2 instead of Ap3 (which wont effect vehicle killing) but 'Get Hot!' and cost +5pts aswell!

thedarkside69; The argmument is for around 50 points you lose 2 WS, an attack and -1av to Frony and sides but you get +1BS and effectively '3 wounds' and an extra shot. Theyre great in combat as well (T10 in combat is always good) and launch a mek into combat but in base contact with 1 or 2 and he can repair them in the shooting phase, while still in a fight! So yeah, people do consider Deff Dreads rubbish in comparison.

The Deff Dread is just a test really, as I stated that list is just the 2nd varient of the list. 3 Killa Kanz would be better as 3 wounds will be useful for my tactic of using them as a screen, plus there could be 12" (or fractionally more) between 2 squadz of Kanz and the meks KFF will still get his rule on them!

Walkers don't Get Hot with those kinds of weapons.

Your best bet with tackling high AV is charging the vehicle, Nobs with PKs are S9. Orks lack long-range tank-busting, so CC is where they truly shine.

yeah, all the squads have Nobs with Pks and the kanz 18 S5 attacks after 9 Rokkit Launcha attacks should do the trick against those pesky tanks! I keep forgetting they're walkers for some odd reason, and today I even forgot Walkers got the run move!