Poll: Do you like the Dreadknight model?

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**Kroothawk**

Well, here we go.
What is your opinion on the new Dreadknight model? Some hate it some love it. Haters usually dominate threads, as seen with the Storm Raven, where most people expressed their hate but polls showed about half the people liking it. Now how about the new Dreadknight model?

**purplefood**

I quite like it...
The main reason i like a new codex coming out is because there are usually some pretty awesome looking models as well...

**OverwatchCNC**

If I play Grey Knights I will definitely be getting 3 of them just because the rules are awesome. The model is merely average. I think all the models are CAD sculpts that have been sitting on the back burner for 3 years. They just aren't up to the same level as the other new plastic kits such as SW BA DE.

**Micromegas**

The model as a whole is just... I don't know. I dislike it. The fact he is piloting a walker and is fully exposed, well. It seems redundant. Some well aimed shots or explosives and the walker has now become inoperable, because Space Jim is KO'ed. The feet also seem kind of odd, to me anyway. If it was a sarcophagus or something as the centerpiece it would be rocking.

I am sure people will make it work, though. And there will be some pretty awesome conversions. Right now though, it just seems silly, personally.

**NoBaconz4You**

To be honest, I do not like it, BUT I don't HATE it. It could've been better.

**puma713**

Micromegas wrote:The model as a whole is just... I don't know. I dislike it. The fact he is piloting a walker and is fully exposed

Exactly. What is stopping that Bloodthirster from reaching into the framework and crushing that poor Grey Knight's exposed skull?

**Brother SRM**

I find it pretty ugly. The baby harness look is awful, and the aesthetics don't match any of the Marine vehicle aesthetics that GW have been carefully building on for years. I find it to be an uglier model than Canis Wolfborn.

However, if you removed the pilot and made it look like there was a guy driving from the inside it might look a little better. The thunderhammer looks awful though.

**Cerebrium**

NoBaconz4You wrote:To be honest, I do not like it, BUT I don't HATE it. It could've been better.

This. I don't like the GK just hanging there, but I'll still field them.

Looking at the parts, however, it looks like not adding the marine is a possibility. If that's the case, I'll be happy to get them.

**juraigamer**

I need to work on the GK baby carrier on it's chest, then it would be an awesome model. Beyond that, it's good.

Putting an un-helmeted guy in termi armor in more armor? Hella stupid.

**Klawz**

I love it. Lovelovelovelove it. I want a friend to play GK just so I can fawn over that model.

**snake**

There is no question the model will sell. There will be people will want it as a part of their list, those who find it "good enough" looking, and those who buy it with the intention of converting it. However, according to responses throughout Dakka (ie not just this poll), there are few who outright like the model.

My question is what goes through GW's mind when it designs and releases a model like this. It is clearly against the 40k and Imperial asthetic. Surely GW knows this, so why go along with it? As for the more subjective appeal of the model (ie not considering it against the rest of the 40k line), are you telling me GW can't recognize the oddities of this model that would lead to few, if any actually liking it outright?

**Trickstick**

It looks quite good, it is not like there is no option for a helmet for the terminator. This is another "I hate the look of the model" trend that I don't seem to understand. I'm not saying everyone should love it but is it really that bad? Sometimes I think people just like to make fun of things. The stormraven looks good and fits with the aesthetics of a marine army. This looks good too and fits with the whole "higher technology" thing that the grey knights seem to have.

**Dark**

Honestly, I don't like it. It breaks from the imperial aesthetic, and should I ever play Gray Knights and put one in my list, I'd rather scratchbuild something in between a Dradnought and a Titan.

More boxy and clumsy looking =)

**Brother SRM**

Trickstick wrote:It looks quite good, it is not like there is no option for a helmet for the terminator. This is another "I hate the look of the model" trend that I don't seem to understand. I'm not saying everyone should love it but is it really that bad? Sometimes I think people just like to make fun of things. The stormraven looks good and fits with the aesthetics of a marine army. This looks good too and fits with the whole "higher technology" thing that the grey knights seem to have.

The thing is this doesn't fit in with the Marine aesthetics. There's absolutely no precedent for this, and nothing looks similar in any way. Imperial vehicles aren't smooth.

**MechaEmperor7000**

As a stand alone model it looks great. At least it's not Optimus Prime we all thought it was. Design wise, it fits in with the aesthetic of the GKs themselves, but not imperial vehicles.

Personally I think it's the "new" version of the Knight Paladin. Remember how the Trygon and Tomb Stalkers were suppose to be these gargantuan creatures and yet the models we have are....less then comparable? Comparing the DK to an actual FW titan and the aesthetic comes together somewhat.

**Micromegas**

Trickstick wrote:It looks quite good, it is not like there is no option for a helmet for the terminator. This is another "I hate the look of the model" trend that I don't seem to understand. I'm not saying everyone should love it but is it really that bad? Sometimes I think people just like to make fun of things. The stormraven looks good and fits with the aesthetics of a marine army. This looks good too and fits with the whole "higher technology" thing that the grey knights seem to have.

I don't think this is mob mentality or what have you. Furthermore, if you open yourself up to something that is accessible enough to be "picked on" or made fun of by a wide audience, then chances are... Not everyone is going to like everything. It really is that bad, TO ME.

Even with a helmet on, you are half-reducing the purpose of a walker unit -- the protection it affords. Throwing a termie onto a walker is just superfluous. Its like putting your dog in a yoyo so you can yoyo while . . .

Sorry, it just seems a poor choice and a waste of resources -- to me.

**MechaEmperor7000**

As a design choice it might have been better to stick something akin to a Dreadnought Sarcophagus on the front. Would be in line with the name "Dreadknight"

**Klawz**

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Comparing the DK to an actual FW titan and the aesthetic comes together somewhat.

This. This is very true.

**Pyriel-**

Getting 3.

**Dark**

A friend just mentioned "IT'd be more like a Rhino with legs" on msn xD

Ig uess it's a good start for a scratchbuild instead of the original model (1000 hours on ms paint later...)

**agnosto**

Seriously, if that hunk of junk has 4 wounds and is an MC, my broadsides should be able to fly and drop nukes.

**purplefood**

agnosto wrote:Seriously, if that hunk of junk has 4 wounds and is an MC, my broadsides should be able to fly and drop nukes.

Don't say that! It might happen... You don't want to give GW (Read:Matt Ward) ideas like that.

**agnosto**

I always thought daemon hunters were a dumb idea. Why make an army that totally gimps another army? There's just no point in taking a Daemon army in tournaments now....or friendlies againts at GK player.

**MechaEmperor7000**

After Space Jesus and the Chibihawk, I really dont care anymore about continuity. The thing looks awesome (bar the baby harness) and that's all I care about.

**Yak9UT**

I would like to see it converted into a powerloader in a game against Tyranids.

**Saphos**

I love it. Could it have been even more awesome? Most likely. Will I convert it to some degree? Also likely. We will see. A real point for criticism seems to me that the legs are not as posable as they could be. Same problem with the arms. They could have done more there. But that is besides the topic here.

Also I do not feel that it is such a strong break with the Marine aesthetic as many people make it out to be. The Dreadknight emulates more the actual armour of the Marines and Terminators and less the actual vehicles like Landraider and Rhino. It is an exosceleton after all. Fluff also says that those things are quite old and sophisticated. It looks quite sophisticated. Seems fine to me. It has also all the usual Greyknight bling. And curved armor is not exactly unheard of in marine vehicles. The closest comparison, the Dreadnought, has rounded armour on its legs as well and the arms aren´t exactly square either. The new Furioso has rounded extra armourplates as well.

By the way. Arguing about "realism" in 40k seems to me to be silly to the extreme. It is not exactly new that we see minis go bareheaded on the battlefield. In this case it seems that the suspension of disbelief doesn´t stretch far enough for quite a number of people to accept it as it is. Use the helmet then and get over it.

Bottomline: If you don´t like it, fine. But don´t be silly about it.

**MechaEmperor7000**

Yak9UT wrote:I would like to see it converted into a powerloader in a game against Tyranids.

We do already have this though http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Guard/Imperial_Guard_Support_Vehicles/SENTINEL-POWERLIFTER.html

**Yak9UT**

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
Yak9UT wrote:I would like to see it converted into a powerloader in a game against Tyranids.

We do already have this though http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Guard/Imperial_Guard_Support_Vehicles/SENTINEL-POWERLIFTER.html

Yes I know about the sentinal pwerlifter but it dosent look as much of a Aliens powerloader as the dreadknight does

**Commander Cain**

My opinion on the dreadknight? Highly salvageable, unlike the chibi hawk. Great design idea, it just needed a different approach to the modelling itself.

**sourclams**

You need a final option: Hate the model, love the rules.

That's the camp I'm in. The DK rules are good enough that I'm going to run 2-3... all the time.