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HQ
1iC & 2iC Honey Stuart - 390?
2x Honey Stuarts

Combat Platoons
3x Honey Stuarts - 295

3x Honey Stuarts - 295

Brigade Support Platoons
Armoured Car Platoon - 115?
3x Marmon Herringtons

Motor Platoon - 210
3x Anti Tank Rifles

Royal Horse Artillery Battery - 350?
4x OQF 18/25pdr
Quads & Trucks
Marmon Herrington OP

Hurricane II - 25

I wrote this list a month or so ago before I got my hands on the V3 rules. At some point this year when I finish my Soviets I plan to build it (or maybe something else). Any suggestions welcome.

Where is this list from George? I have seen the LW list like this, but never an EW list.

Seems like a fast, in your face list. Do they get recce in EW?

Mat

It's from Hellfire and Back. Only the Marmon Herringtons get recon the Stuarts don't even have HE.

Snazzy list. No HE? Hmmm, that could be problematic against an all infantry list, but I am sure your aware of that. I've yet to really look over the other EW armies beside the Germans in Blitzgrieg.

That's one of my problems, One of the biggest hard counters to this list is any infantry list.

There's also Barbarossa and updated German and Soviet lists coming. Heavy tanks like the KV1 (or Matildas) will be piratically unstoppable with this list. It's got an even number of platoons, recon, artillery and air interception (no AA available) it just doesn't seem to put out much.

To counteract having no HE on all your tanks, your artillery all have the new Horse Artillery rules.

Combined with the new transport rules, these allow you to call in your transports from the rear, limber up your guns, drive them forward as far as your transports allow, unlimber, then fire at RoF 1.

Thus your transports and guns spend no time in their vulnerable limbered state, and you can quickly bring guns up to bear that can blast infantry out of their foxholes in direct fire.

All your guns also have gun shields, protecting them from minor amounts of small arms fire.

Do 18/25s have turntables? That will help prevent assaults from infantry and vehicles.

Likewise your Stuarts will protect them against other vehicles going around the gun shields.

According to the product page they do have turntables.

That rule should make a big difference, possibly allowing me to make use of direct fire against some opponents.

The command platoon stuarts now form an additional platoon under the 2iC. That also gives me more platoons under V3.

My wheeled armoured cars will also benefit from the new 12" movement.

Having just checked out the new Warmachine Colossal at £85 I got to thinking how much this army will cost me. Prices are estimated based upon an assumption of releases and costs at around RRP -10%


1iC & 2iC Honey Stuart
2x Honey Stuarts

Combat Platoons
3x Honey Stuarts

3x Honey Stuarts

Support Platoons
Armoured Car Platoon 3x Marmon Herringtons

Motor Platoon 3x Anti Tank Rifles 3x Rifle teams Cmd Team 3x 15cwt trucks Command vehicle?

Royal Horse Artillery Battery
4x OQF 18/25pdr 4xQuads & 1/2x Trucks
Marmon Herrington OP

Hurricane II

There are 10 Stuarts in this list which (if PSC do an M3 Stuart at five to a box for £15) will come to about £30 for the lot. Additional stowage and Peter Pig crewmen will probably come to about £5 The armoured car platoon and the Herrington OP I can source from a friend. I already have two of them (missing turrets) but I think I could bodge up the four of them for less than a tenner (£10). A Battlefront Motor Platoon is £10 and additional Battlefront transports will probably cost about £7 (I already have two). Four 18/25 pounders with crew comes to £30ish and about £14 for the quad transports. The Hurricanes don't actually appear on the table so I don't need to buy any models.

So assuming I can't get any of this cheaper that comes to around £100 with the possibility of being down a few transports.

George Spiggott wrote:Having just checked out the new Warmachine Colossal at £85 I got to thinking how much this army will cost me. Prices are estimated based upon an assumption of releases and costs at around RRP -10%


1iC & 2iC Honey Stuart
2x Honey Stuarts

Combat Platoons
3x Honey Stuarts

3x Honey Stuarts

Support Platoons
Armoured Car Platoon 3x Marmon Herringtons

Motor Platoon 3x Anti Tank Rifles 3x Rifle teams Cmd Team 3x 15cwt trucks Command vehicle?

Royal Horse Artillery Battery
4x OQF 18/25pdr 4xQuads & 1/2x Trucks
Marmon Herrington OP

Hurricane II

There are 10 Stuarts in this list which (if PSC do an M3 Stuart at five to a box for £15) will come to about £30 for the lot. Additional stowage and Peter Pig crewmen will probably come to about £5 The armoured car platoon and the Herrington OP I can source from a friend. I already have two of them (missing turrets) but I think I could bodge up the four of them for less than a tenner (£10). A Battlefront Motor Platoon is £10 and additional Battlefront transports will probably cost about £7 (I already have two). Four 18/25 pounders with crew comes to £30ish and about £14 for the quad transports. The Hurricanes don't actually appear on the table so I don't need to buy any models.

So assuming I can't get any of this cheaper that comes to around £100 with the possibility of being down a few transports.

I'm insanely curious, is there any indication that PSC is planning on doing Stuarts soon? I really, really, REALLY, want this to be true.

Sometime this year apparently. Hopefully there will be M3 and M5 hulls and options for Jalopies.

Vertrucio wrote:To counteract having no HE on all your tanks, your artillery all have the new Horse Artillery rules..

Just checked my H&B book, never realizing this....Thanks!

This just makes Brit artillery that much better!

combat engineer wrote:Snazzy list. No HE? Hmmm, that could be problematic against an all infantry list, but I am sure your aware of that. I've yet to really look over the other EW armies beside the Germans in Blitzgrieg.

No HE is pretty much the standard for all british tanks in EW, except for the Vickers MkVI models and the Matilda Is, so there is not really any way to avoid it and play a list with real AT capability. Kind of why I thought the BAR fix was a bit of overkill on Battlefront's part. The really broken part of the BAR was an entire company coming on with a single reserves roll. That was painfully unbalancing, but the easiest way to stymie a BAR was and still remains dug in infantry. Unfortunately now you have fewer vehicle MGs with which to make those elusive FP-6 rolls because of the increase in points costs on vehicles with Tally-Ho.

Skriker


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George Spiggott wrote:That's one of my problems, One of the biggest hard counters to this list is any infantry list.

There's also Barbarossa and updated German and Soviet lists coming. Heavy tanks like the KV1 (or Matildas) will be piratically unstoppable with this list. It's got an even number of platoons, recon, artillery and air interception (no AA available) it just doesn't seem to put out much.

Well no matter what list you use the British have nothing other than their artillery pieces that can hope to hurt a KV1, or even destroy a T-34/76 for that matter. The best a 2pdr can do on a T-34 is a bail result.

In our EW league last year one player tried out a EW listing from battlefront for the russians. It included a platoon of 6 T-34s on a breakthrough mission with me as the defender. I had 2 25pdrs on the table and they couldn't move so I had nothing that could destroy the T-34s directly. The only way I took some out was initially he would assault my infantry and I would counter attack and bail out a single tank and then the reluctant conscripts would run away allowing the bailed tank to go boom he eventually stopped assaulting with his tanks. I won the fight, but only by completely ignoring the T-34s and destroying everything else in his army instead. I hate to imagine an EW battle against Russians, as the British, if the opponent were to be playing tanks without any light tanks in the force. The brits would be next to powerless to stop such a force. That isn't sour grapes...just a fact. Pioneers on the assault might get the job done if you can assault out of cover and avoid all the defensive fire that tanks can pump out.

Skriker

Skriker wrote:The really broken part of the BAR was an entire company coming on with a single reserves roll. That was painfully unbalancing...

I thought they fixed the British Armour Regiment.

Ghaz wrote:

Skriker wrote:The really broken part of the BAR was an entire company coming on with a single reserves roll. That was painfully unbalancing...

I thought they fixed the British Armour Regiment.

They did, but in the "fixing" they made the force even weaker against infantry armies by not only fixing the reserves rule which was the real problem and increasing the points costs of anything with Tally Ho!

Skriker

V3 fixed the reserve rules. Platoons always arrive separately now