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HQ
1 x Chaos Lord
- Mark of Nurgle
- Aura of Dark Glory
- The Murder Sword
- Veteran of the Long War

TROOPS
5 x Plague Marines
- 2 x Plasma Gun
- Rhino

5 x Plague Marines
- 2 x Plasma Gun
- Rhino

5 x Plague Marines
- 2 x Plasma Gun
- Rhino

FAST ATTACK
1 x Heldrake
- Hades Autocannon

5 x Chaos Spawn
- Mark of Nurgle

HEAVY SUPPORT
3 x Obliterator
- Mark of Nurgle

3 x Obliterator
- Mark of Nurgle

What do you think?

Nice solid list. What I would look to do to it; or my ideas to help it develop are:

Lose an obliterator from each squad and/or a spawn and use the points to increase the plague marine unit sizes to help them swing combats

Flamer on the heldrake and vector strike any other flyers.

Looks like a nice rounded list, I would agree on adding more troops simply for having more objective grabbers.

 Jasper wrote:
Nice solid list. What I would look to do to it; or my ideas to help it develop are:

Lose an obliterator from each squad and/or a spawn and use the points to increase the plague marine unit sizes to help them swing combats

Flamer on the heldrake and vector strike any other flyers.

Um have you actually tried this?

The way fliers and their movement work you basically get one shot at this, and its only s7 against armor 11-12 flyers... you have a very low chance of doing anything.

Assuming of course you get your flyer in at the perfect time.

Looks good overall, I would just suggest dropping the spawn. I haven't found that they are much better than before. With those points, or if you can squeeze some from elsewhere, bigger PM squads are a plus.

Fearfire,

Not had chance to try it on flyers but I have come across opponents who do it quite well. The rear armour is usually 10 for a flyer so a little bit weaker. I just think the autocannon on a hell drake is not a great weapon; abd makes the flyers more of a defensive unit. For defence I think it is better to invest in ground based AA (defence line + gun and a few havocs) rather than the autocannon helldrake. Offensively its the hell drake and flamer over the defensive line everytime,

Looks good. If you really wanted more troops you could drop 2 Spawn and add a Plague Marine to each squad. Alternatively you can drop the whole Spawn unit and VotLW from your Lord and add another 5-man Plague Marine Squad with the double Plasma and Rhino. Personally I'd go with the latter, but any of them seem fine (including leaving your list as is.)

The baleflamer is the better choice on a helldrake. Yes you lose a little anti-flyer BUT the horror of a str6 ap3 torrent flamer that comes on from reserve is just upsetting.

Would 3 squads of 2 Obliterators give you a little more flexibility?

when you go up to 1850 get epidermus

and 20 cultists
and typus

us typus to kill 20 cultists and instant 20 stack on epidermus