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Lady of the Lake






So unsurprisingly Nintendo has announced yet another pokemon game. This time for the 3DS, also finally taking a proper step up with its looks.


Battles are now awesome.

Once again the starters are strange, but this is the first time I've been interested in the fire type. Hopefully it stays somewhat the same as it is.

And here you can find a video of Iwata talking over it. It does start off with a nostalgia bomb though.

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Nintendo just gives up on naming their games and starts using the alphabet. Magic.

(insert slow clap)
   
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Lady of the Lake






Yeah, at least we're finally away from minerals and colours I guess.

   
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Morbid Black Knight






Wales

I look forward to it. Here's hoping that fire type doesn't become Fire/Fighting AGAIN.

Veteran Sergeant wrote:If 40K has Future Rifles, and Future Tanks, and Future Artillery, and Future Airplanes and Future Grenades and Future Bombs, then contextually Future Swords seem somewhat questionable to use, since it means crossing Future Open Space to get Future Shot At.
Polonius wrote:I categorically reject any statement that there is such a thing as too much boob.


Coolyo294 wrote:Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
 
   
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Lord of the Fleet





Texas

A fire fox and a water frog

Havent seen that before

Though at least the battles are now like pokemon stadium!

Alright place your bets on the standard new pokemon! The Bird, the Grass, the useless Poison, the HM carrying Normal, etc

 
   
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker




New York

Sadly, Black 2 was my last Pokemon game (and despite the crappy Pokemon, Black and Black 2 had excellent storylines).

Nintendo also announced that there'd be a new type in the game...
   
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Morbid Black Knight






Wales

What exactly can they do as another type though?

Veteran Sergeant wrote:If 40K has Future Rifles, and Future Tanks, and Future Artillery, and Future Airplanes and Future Grenades and Future Bombs, then contextually Future Swords seem somewhat questionable to use, since it means crossing Future Open Space to get Future Shot At.
Polonius wrote:I categorically reject any statement that there is such a thing as too much boob.


Coolyo294 wrote:Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
 
   
Made in us
Lord of the Fleet





Texas

 4oursword wrote:
What exactly can they do as another type though?


Flame type!

Sorry, old joke

Well.....they technically dont have light. I dont think electricity is good against dark

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Junior Officer with Laspistol




Perth/Glasgow

 4oursword wrote:
What exactly can they do as another type though?


Air?
Cardboard?
Punk? (They already have Rock and Metal(Steel) )
Plastic?
Lava?

Currently debating whether to study for my exams or paint some Deathwing 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Burtucky, Michigan

Im pretty excited. Ive been waiting for a Pokemon game like this since Shadow Colosseum. Bought frigging time Nintendo made a Pokemon game with current graphics.....well.....closer to anyways.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




St. Louis, Missouri

This actually looks pretty cool. It'll be the first pokemon game for me since Gold/Silver

And if you're drinkin' well, you know that you're my friend and I say "I think I'll have myself a beer"
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon





Tied and gagged in the back of your car

Pokemon X and Y sounds like the name of a porno parody.

That aside, looks not terrible. Could be good. Won't be buying unless they tone down the offensive metagame/power creep though. 5th generation was ridiculous with that.
   
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St. Louis, Missouri

 Fafnir wrote:
Won't be buying unless they tone down the offensive metagame/power creep though. 5th generation was ridiculous with that.

Out of curiosity, what do you mean? Other than some of the new pokemon being lame, I heard that Black/White were actually quite good.

And if you're drinkin' well, you know that you're my friend and I say "I think I'll have myself a beer"
DS:80+SG-M-B--IPw40k09-D++A+/mWD-R++T(Ot)DM+
 
   
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Lady of the Lake






It's always been that way though, the only way to avoid it is to do online play early on before everyone gets around to EV training. Since this will be the first time it's had a global release there won't be any head starts.

   
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Junior Officer with Laspistol




Perth/Glasgow

 mega_bassist wrote:
 Fafnir wrote:
Won't be buying unless they tone down the offensive metagame/power creep though. 5th generation was ridiculous with that.

Out of curiosity, what do you mean? Other than some of the new pokemon being lame, I heard that Black/White were actually quite good.


Some people who played it just sat and make super-awesome max stat pokemon just for winning online games, I think

Currently debating whether to study for my exams or paint some Deathwing 
   
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon





Tied and gagged in the back of your car

Black and White is just way more offensive than previous generations. Granted, they've been getting more and more sweeper happy as generations went on, but now it's just getting silly.

It's like every generation's sweepers keep growing to completely outdo the last generation's, and in doing so, completely trash every single wall on the way.

I preferred the offensive/defensive balance of third gen. Although 4th gen has the best gameplay mechanics.

For the record, I'm one of those guys who made max stat pokemon. My issue isn't with the min/maxing, my issue is with the game balance itself.

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Lady of the Lake






You mean stuff like Garchomps everywhere. Get one or watch your team be killed by one?

   
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon





Tied and gagged in the back of your car

Back in my day, Garchomp was uber tier. Nobody used him. Unless they were playing ubers.

The power creep is so bad that it's gotten to the point that Garchomp is OU now.
   
Made in au
Lady of the Lake






I haven't seen it yet, but did the b2/w2 Ditto end up working out in the end? Seemed like an ability it should have had the whole time instead of stuff like limber...

   
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Liche Priest Hierophant







Seriously, the Water Frog is called "Froakie"
Is that worse than the Icecream pokemon "Vanillite"?
   
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon





Tied and gagged in the back of your car

He's still NU in B/W. Aside from the serious pimping that's always been the norm, it looks like he can work as a decent revenge/scout pokemon. That said, at the end of the day, he still only has 48 HP. The rule seems to be that you just stick him with a choice scarf, and switch in on something like a 600 Dragon.
   
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker




New York

Garchomps were bad, but Arons with endeavor/quick attack , holding leftovers, and having Sturdy were the WORST!.
   
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 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Seriously, the Water Frog is called "Froakie"
Is that worse than the Icecream pokemon "Vanillite"?


As soon as I saw the ice cream cone pokemon, I stopped playing that one and went to do another play through Red.

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Lady of the Lake






 Fafnir wrote:
He's still NU in B/W. Aside from the serious pimping that's always been the norm, it looks like he can work as a decent revenge/scout pokemon. That said, at the end of the day, he still only has 48 HP. The rule seems to be that you just stick him with a choice scarf, and switch in on something like a 600 Dragon.


Ah k, so I guess when he got bumped up to uber for being a "game changer" it was probably for a week at most.

   
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Dr. What wrote:
Garchomps were bad, but Arons with endeavor/quick attack , holding leftovers, and having Sturdy were the WORST!.


Not a particularly potent strategy. At the end of the day, you're still going 1 for 1 with a pokemon that can't support its team in any other way. It's also completely screwed over by hail, ghost pokemon, any rapid hit move (so cloyster does not give a gak), and any Pokemon with Mold Breaker.


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 n0t_u wrote:
 Fafnir wrote:
He's still NU in B/W. Aside from the serious pimping that's always been the norm, it looks like he can work as a decent revenge/scout pokemon. That said, at the end of the day, he still only has 48 HP. The rule seems to be that you just stick him with a choice scarf, and switch in on something like a 600 Dragon.


Ah k, so I guess when he got bumped up to uber for being a "game changer" it was probably for a week at most.


Well, no. He can compete in any tier, thanks to the fact that what he does can be applied to damn near anything. He's one of the best revenge killers you'll get. But he's completely one-dimensional in his utility, and his low HP makes him incredibly reliant on choice scarf to get anything done, which means he'll only ever be good for one thing. So just make sure you don't build up a tonne of buffs beforehand (Imposter copies buffs, and you do not want to give a CS Ditto 2 dragon dances), and you can handle him like any other CS pokemon. The only difference is that you know what moves are available, and thus exactly what to send in to make sure that Ditto won't make itself useful.

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Liche Priest Hierophant







I always loved the smeagle combo, wrecked face but it you messed up you lost
   
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Lady of the Lake






I liked how Smeargle could be used like Ditto, but for egg moves.

So anyone have an ideas what types the starters could be in their final forms? It's just some fun guessing at the moment since we have nothing to go on yet. I'd like to see an electric fire starter.

   
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Liche Priest Hierophant







Froakie will look nothing like a frog, just look at Oshawat's final evelution, I mean, WTF is it anyway? Otter->BA Otter->WTF?

Fenekin, in true fire-type form, will turn from incredibally cute to incredibaly BA, or it will turn into another Tepig, cute->BA->Ugly as all feth. I'm hoping it will be a mixture of Zoroak and Ninetails.
EDIT: Better not be another Fire/Fighting either... 3 of them in a row? Seriously Nitendo???

I'm unsure about Chespin, though. I'm hoping it turns out BA, though. It looks cool.




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One thing is for sure, though, I need to get a 3DS

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My jimmies have been girded against the impending genwunner butthurt.

And I'm seriously considering getting a 3DS just to get this game.

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Morbid Black Knight






Wales

That fire-type almost definately used a Psychic-type move- I predict fire/psychic, grass/fighting, water/dark.

Veteran Sergeant wrote:If 40K has Future Rifles, and Future Tanks, and Future Artillery, and Future Airplanes and Future Grenades and Future Bombs, then contextually Future Swords seem somewhat questionable to use, since it means crossing Future Open Space to get Future Shot At.
Polonius wrote:I categorically reject any statement that there is such a thing as too much boob.


Coolyo294 wrote:Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
 
   
 
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