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With rumors starting to appear what's on your IG 6th edition wishlist?

Let's leave out hopes for new infantry models or old regiments in plastic, I think GW has shown they're not going to revisit old kits for a long, long time. I mean if Khorne Bezerkers can't be resculpted I have no hope for a new IG regiment. None.

For me...

1-Bigger CCS: a colonel should not be running around with 4 guys. The 4th edition codex helped adding bodyguards and advisors but I'd like to see the option of taking more troopers so I could have 4 guns, a medic, a standard, a com guy etc in one unit. Making them Colonel + 4-10 troopers would be great.

2-Arbites: I know now we will never get Codex Arbites, so i'd settle for this. Storm Trooper stats, shotguns, optional shield and shock maul (raises them to S4 rending and 3+ save). Please?

3-Heavy stubbers as special weapons: So there's something useful to take besides plama in a stand and shoot squad

4-Vendettas can only transport 6 models-due to the weight of the generators and batteries, blah blah blah, unit fixed more or less.

5-More crazy Imperial madness - fold in some of the Inquisition henchmen stuff. Love the Penal Legion, love the enginseer, let's see more. MOAR!

6-A jeep: the Salamander will do nicely thank you

7-Interceptor for Hydras: please? I converted up 3 of them...

8-Death world vets: An elite infiltrating scouting unit, a counterpart to Storm Troopers with some nasty assault rules

9-All special and heavy weapon options in the trooper box: I mean really? You halved the box, kept the price almost the same and we STILL don't have all the special options? Really? I mean Empire troops have all of the THEIR weapon options and they have multiple arm options and IG can't get a plasma gun in their troop box? Really?

10-More Marbo-like characters: Nothing earth-shattering or game breaking but let's see the ultimate sniper, the ultimate las gunner, the ultimate heavy weapon guy etc.

1-Some way to make barrage artillery twin linked or accurate like the griffon. Something like "Orbital Targeting Array" or just let the psykers have access to that spell, presience I think?

2-Kits for all the artillery sets

Aside from price adjustments everywhere to balance things out and make everything more or less equally viable...

1) Two weapons on sentinels. It'd be nice if they could diversify a bit, like being able to take a heavy flamer and a ranged weapon.
2) A rough rider kit.
3) Special weapons squad kit so people don't have to jump though hoops to properly outfit a squad.
4) Missile Launchers moved from heavy weapon teams to a special weapon. I like the aesthetic more and it'd be cool to have anti-tank/anti-air options in that slot. Heavy Stubbers would also be cool
5) Buffs to sniper rifles! I want them to be more useful for tackling MCs.
6) Army-wide customization like what they had before 5th edition.
7) Better psykers. It'd be cool to be able to get a level 2 primaris psyker, and/or psyker battle squads taking book powers.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
With rumors starting to appear what's on your IG 6th edition wishlist?

Let's leave out hopes for new infantry models or old regiments in plastic, I think GW has shown they're not going to revisit old kits for a long, long time. I mean if Khorne Bezerkers can't be resculpted I have no hope for a new IG regiment. None.

For me...

1-Bigger CCS: a colonel should not be running around with 4 guys. The 4th edition codex helped adding bodyguards and advisors but I'd like to see the option of taking more troopers so I could have 4 guns, a medic, a standard, a com guy etc in one unit. Making them Colonel + 4-10 troopers would be great.

Just add the "High Command" from the post-Eye of Terror campaign replays.
A batman, stormtrooper bodyguards, artillery coordinators, etc all in one unit.
Oh yeah. Add Inquisitors/Interrogators here as an option as well.

4-Vendettas can only transport 6 models-due to the weight of the generators and batteries, blah blah blah, unit fixed more or less.

NO MORE VENDETTAS! DEATH TO THE VENDETTAS!

Seriously. Just kill the stupid concept and bring the Vulture in. Full stop.

6-A jeep: the Salamander will do nicely thank you

That's not a jeep...

More Sentinel options. Drop Sentinels, Long Range Recon Sentinels, etc could easily be awesome.

8-Death world vets: An elite infiltrating scouting unit, a counterpart to Storm Troopers with some nasty assault rules

Why not just Super Hardened Veterans?

I actually mean that as a serious statement. We've already got Paladins, Deathwing Hardcore Awesome Dudes, etc. Why not just add some Veterans that are stupidly expensive but able to be equipped and tailored as you see fit?
Make them a single purchase but deployed independent of each other.

9-All special and heavy weapon options in the trooper box: I mean really? You halved the box, kept the price almost the same and we STILL don't have all the special options? Really? I mean Empire troops have all of the THEIR weapon options and they have multiple arm options and IG can't get a plasma gun in their troop box? Really?

The Empire troops suffer for having all of their weapon options. Some of them have no shoes!
I could understand the halving of the box though. The addition of the "Hardened Veteran Squads" pretty much changed how I can run my infantry heavy Guard army. From two huge blocks with Chimeras to multiple smaller blocks with more Special Weapons and Chimeras.

Plus the only way I would agree with this is if they get rid of the stupid special weapons available now and go back to the bulky backpack mounts. Backpacks make everything cooler.

10-More Marbo-like characters: Nothing earth-shattering or game breaking but let's see the ultimate sniper, the ultimate las gunner, the ultimate heavy weapon guy etc.

LESS Marbo-like characters!

More Bastonne-like characters. Badass sergeants who are from units of badasses. Because badass.

For my own PERSONAL requests?

1) Dedicated rules for Kasrkin.
2) Doctrinal Warfare returning, tied to the army lead.
3) Sergeants, Lieutenants, Captains, and Colonels having access to fire support. Whether it be mortar strikes, Earthshaker barrages, airstrikes, etc--totally should be doable.
4) Valkyries gaining "Mine Seeder" attachments allowing for deploying a "No Man's Land" that benefits stationary shooting a bit but does not discriminate between friend or foe.
5) ACTUAL HUMAN SNIPER TEAMS. Spotters/snipers like the Elysian Sniper Teams from FW. Maybe to differentiate from the Ratlings give the human teams a heavier rifle that has a somewhat shorter range?

1. Doctrines. Doctrines, doctrines, doctrines. Got high hopes for this one, actually, hearing about the Space Marine system. Drop Troopers, Armored Companies, Penal Regiments, Recon...plenty of options!

2. Inquisitorial ties. Probably less likely, but it'd be fun to be able to pull off an Inquisitorial Stormtrooper detachment.

3. A few lighter vehicles. Salamanders, Tauros, that sort of thing.

4. Either cheaper or two-weapon Sentinels. Even a one-shot heavy flamer would be great!

5. More weapon options in the kit without tacking on a massive price increase...please? Have mercy?

I have another -- bring back the old russ rules so that my LRBT's don't have to snap shot if they fire ordinance. Please. Please.

Internal balance.

eclipseoto wrote:
I have another -- bring back the old russ rules so that my LRBT's don't have to snap shot if they fire ordinance. Please. Please.

That, and plastic Colossus, Gryphon, Medusa etc.

Interceptor for hydra I heavily agree. They are often killed by the aircraft they are built to defend against before they can even fire on them.

Tank destroyer style Leman Russ, or bring in the Laser destroyer, its heavy gun is balanced by its total lack of defensive weapons besides a single possible stubber or storm bolter on its top end.

Vanquisher more powerful in respect that it can hit more frequently like a Veteran crew upgrade, increase BS +1 or something, or even a coaxial stubber/storm bolter or something that can be added for X points.
etc

 Blacksails wrote:
Internal balance.

^^

Plus doctrines.

 Yonan wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
Internal balance.

^^

Plus doctrines.

Obviously.

And do something with the abortion of balance the 'Detta is.

And some cool rough rider options, like an entire scoring platoon of mounted, screaming, explosive-tipped, mayhem hurling at your enemy.

And make the elites a force org worth looking twice at. Too much wrong in that force org slot to even begin.

And make sentinels viable. Models are too ballin to be 8th tier units.

And make Russes that tiny little smidgen better so that you really have to hum and haw between tanks and arty.

And make the other troop options that aren't vets better.

Actually, I think all of that would pretty much fall under a general 'make it internally balanced' umbrella. Pretty much make it so its the exact opposite of the CSM dex.

Oh, autocannon chimeras. Make it so.

A: slightly more loadout options for vehicles and infantry both (more options, but less stuff like ubiquitous meltavets or flamer PCS)

B: some kind of special rule that let's massed lasgun fire hurt ANYTHING with a toughness, because foot guard working with no vehicles at all would be lovely.

I only play in fun / friendly games... My wish list:

- Engiseers effectiveness somehow increased... relentless so he can bring along some servitors maybe? A bulwark type ability could be cool now that cover saves were reduced.
- HQ that interacts with your vehicles somehow whether through buffing or rules altering. Could even be an engiseer or whatever...
- Stormtrooper HQ choice that allows stormtroopers to be taken as troops similiar to the FOC altering abilities many other army HQs have.
- Slight points drop for stormtroopers.
- Better psyker options.
- Multiple weapon sentinels to make a better firing platform.

Thats all that really comes to mind... i dont think we need more vehicles honestly, plenty of options across the slots. I love the effectiveness of vendettas (i have 4) and have never run them as valkyries because I dont like relying on dual purpose units. That said, they are so big compared to everything on the board that I'd be fine with them removing them to be replaced by something more reasonably sized. Dont see it happening though.

I would like to see ogryns become a more ppor mans terminators. A similar relationship to a space marine and a guardsman. The guardsman is a little less effective but you get more. Have the ogryn a little less effective than a terminator (less armour save) but you can get more in a unit. Then give them feel no pain.


Psyker battle squads as more than just psykers. Maybe make them combat based, they would still have the limitations of a humans strength and toughness but give them a better weapon skill an extra attack and maybe force weapons. I am visualising jedi style troops.

I want to see Vendettas become AV 13, gain Shrouded, and drop to 100 points. Just because I want to see everyone scream and cry when it happens.

1. New rules for Artillery, Rough Riders, Ogyrns and Hydra's that fit 6th Edition.
2. New plastic kits for Rough Riders and Ogyrns
3. Plastic kit for Hydra (doubt this because FW make one)
4. Definitely Doctrines (and do some new orders while they are at it!)
5. Some buffs to Storm Troopers and Veterans (Vets don't really seem to be very special IMO - give them a price bump up in return for extra wargear and non bias shotguns (i.e. Shotguns that are the same strength as Space Marine ones ))
6. Some buffs to Penal Legion - make them more risky with much better rewards
7. MOAR TANKS!

Other than that, I want it all to be a surprise....

A toned down baneblade in the new codex, I mean if Eldar and Tau can field the Wraith Knight and Riptide respectively in regular 40k games we can get a bigger leman russ.

Different munitions for the artillery. DPICM (cluster bombs), WP (incindiary), smoke (for a cover save wherever and whenever you want), HEAT (ultra Ap), laser/radar/auspex guided, flechette (super anti-infantry), chemical warheads. I was an artileryman in the Army, so im a little biased towards artillery.

 Peregrine wrote:
I want to see Vendettas become AV 13, gain Shrouded, and drop to 100 points. Just because I want to see everyone scream and cry when it happens.

I find it funny because you are massively butt-hurt in the thread about Veterans losing their 3rd special weapon, amongst other things.


Anyway, here's what I'd love

Primaris Psykers are Mastery Level I for 40 points. They may become Mastery Level II for 25 points.

Imperial Guard Honors:
Honorifica Imperialis needs to make a return, dangit!
Actually all of those wargear options from our 3.5 codex need to make a comeback. I want my Signature Item!

Special Issue Wargear
Bionics for 2 or 3 pts, gives the officer FNP 6+

Different banners like Dark Angels would be much appreciated.

Different doctrines would be nice too. Exactly like the Space Marine Chapter Tactics, you could have Regiment Doctrines. Sharpshooters could make a comeback, as could close order drill and maybe even the ability to replace lasguns with laspistols. That would be cool.

Oh and most importantly: I wish that they don't screw with the platoon option at all. Seriously its perfect as far as I am concerned. Add in Regimental Doctrines, some point reductions for SWS and HWS, and you're all set.

Actually I can also see them making Guard squads 40 points and making a Veteran Sergeant a 10 pt upgrade like they do in DA and SM.

My list:
- Platoon level "doctrine" upgrades. Because even though I dig doctrines, I also love customization and nothing say "Customize!" better than 4 Infantry Platoons rigged to do four completely different things!
- Platoons in every FOC slot: Command Platoon in HQ, Veteran Platoon in Elites, Infantry Platoon in Troops, Scout Platoon in Fast Attack and Heavy Weapons Platoon in Heavy Support.
- Remove the Vendetta.
- Make the Hydra AC double-mode like the Soul Grinder's gun.
- Fix the "Heavy" classification on the Leman Russ. Currently, a Baneblade is thrice (!!!!) as fast as a Leman Russ on top speed!
- Price drop on the Storm Troopers.

I'd like to see Stormtroopers get a large point reduction & possibly be taken as troops under certain conditions, unique regiment specific rules, make foot guard more viable, salamander scout tank in IG Codex, More orders, "Massive" point reduction on Commissar Yarrick or changing his rules so that he is worth taking. Creed > Yarrick in pretty much every way. Ogryns/Rough Riders need love etc.

The Vulture Gunship needs to be included, and be more viable than the Vendetta. This allows some variety in Drop Troop armies, and presents an interesting selection challenge. Another Valk, or a supporting gunship?

Also, give Stormtroopers the rules from their Apocalypse datasheet.

Storm the Objective:
In any turn in which the Storm Troopers disembark from their Valkyrie transports, they may shoot, run, then shoot again. This second round of shooting may be at a different target if you wish. In addition, cover saves taken against hits caused from these shooting attacks suffer a -1 penalty, representing the defenders being caught by surprise.
Note that this rule only applies to the Storm Troopers, not the Valkyie transports.

It would make them far more effective, and keep it fluffy.

Other than that, I'm looking forward to fluffy supplements, taking the best of the old doctrine system. So Catachans get light infantry and Stealth:Jungle, Mordians get Close Order Drill, etc.

Plastic vulture in the codex would also sell plenty models.

Go forth, GW, and make it so.

 CadianXV wrote:

The Vulture Gunship needs to be included, and be more viable than the Vendetta. This allows some variety in Drop Troop armies, and presents an interesting selection challenge. Another Valk, or a supporting gunship?

Also, give Stormtroopers the rules from their Apocalypse datasheet.

Storm the Objective:
In any turn in which the Storm Troopers disembark from their Valkyrie transports, they may shoot, run, then shoot again. This second round of shooting may be at a different target if you wish. In addition, cover saves taken against hits caused from these shooting attacks suffer a -1 penalty, representing the defenders being caught by surprise.
Note that this rule only applies to the Storm Troopers, not the Valkyie transports.

It would make them far more effective, and keep it fluffy.

Other than that, I'm looking forward to fluffy supplements, taking the best of the old doctrine system. So Catachans get light infantry and Stealth:Jungle, Mordians get Close Order Drill, etc.

Love both of these suggestions. Would love to own a Vulture Gunship & Storm the Objective would make stormtroopers worth their current point values. Its totally fitting as well.

- Give some of the HQ models +1 in initiative. Why bother outfitting them for melee when your HQ's all hit slower then 90% of what's walking around out there. Oh right, Guard doesn't work that way, so why bother giving a Lord Commissar WS 5 then if he can never properly use it in the first place?

- The option to give the Medallion Crimson to your officers for X-amount of points.

- Plastic Griffon kit

This is just me, but I'd like to see more of a Mechanicum presence. Some creepy AdMech dudes would add a lot of spice.
Aside from that, more artillery options. I like Musashi's different types of ordinance theory. Different strokes for different folks.

Christopher300 wrote:
I would like to see ogryns become a more ppor mans terminators. A similar relationship to a space marine and a guardsman. The guardsman is a little less effective but you get more. Have the ogryn a little less effective than a terminator (less armour save) but you can get more in a unit. Then give them feel no pain.

I'd rather they became a poor man's centurions, T5 & W2, and able to take them as either assault or heavy weapon variants, give them relentless. Make the save 5+ but balance it with FnP.

I'd really really like to see the Valkyrie Sky Talon as a full plastic kit and the rules in the codex, not going to happen.

The return of doctrines, my Valhallans need love.


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 Spartan089 wrote:
A toned down baneblade in the new codex, I mean if Eldar and Tau can field the Wraith Knight and Riptide respectively in regular 40k games we can get a bigger leman russ.

The macharius would have words with you.

As much as I think the current IG codex is as close to a perfect codex as we're going to get (ignoring fliers that became broken through a quirk of the rules), here are a few:

- Give commissars limited access to orders, with a slight points increase, maybe 90 points for a Lord Commissar with CCS-level orders.
- Doctrines available to all units, not just vets.
- Defensive order, boost to overwatch (TL/BS2)
- Fix the ordnance Russes!
- RR platoons, or stats in line with the IA12 death riders (2W, 4+ save)
- Keep the Platoon and Orders mechanics EXACTLY THE SAME!

 MWHistorian wrote:
This is just me, but I'd like to see more of a Mechanicum presence. Some creepy AdMech dudes would add a lot of spice.
Aside from that, more artillery options. I like Musashi's different types of ordinance theory. Different strokes for different folks.

Im also a fan of the larger admech presence. I know most people will groan when they read this but I would like to see Knights backing the guard, with the option to be fitted for fire zupport or barreling bead first into CC. Thats just me though, I thought this would be cool long before the dreadknight or riptide ever r3ared their heads.
As for rules, yeah some units need the once over especially RR and sents those are the ones I'd want revamped the most with a close second being being stomies and ogryns.

Rough Rider command squad in hq, allowing RR to be taken as troops. Doesn't even have to be competitive, but a full cavalry army would be so much fun.

I guess people will not like me saying this, but veterans really should not be able to take more than 2 special weapons.

More customization choices for the CCS. I'd like to see the guard equivalent of artifacts to be special equipment/advisors for the CCS instead of equipment for individuals.

Cheaper Stormtroopers. The rules are fine, they are just to expensive. I'd also like some more weapon options. Shotguns with the old ammo options (bolt shell, inferno shell, executener shell) would be awesome, they would be sternguards little brother and a great arbites counts as.

Overhauled penal legion. Units should be 10-30, cheaper and get rid of the useless random abilities. Instead make those explosive collars actually explosive. And really, penal legion shouldn't give kill points, but that would propably be unbalanced.

I'd like to see a new elite choice. Maybe some kind of admech unit?

Plastic kits for stormtroopers, battle psykers, rough riders and penal legion.

A guardsmen kit that looks like it's from 40k and not 2k would be a bonus.

I guess you can see I'm more a fan of 40k weirdness than tanks.