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I'm adding the Space Marines models to my Heresy-era legion and the SOS and Custodes will be a fun to team with other Imperial forces.

 SirDonlad wrote:
The plasmaguns and meltaguns are not the same as those from BaC - they have two bonding studs on the backhand of the trigger/handle gauntlet and the plasmagun has a redesigned foregrip.
The BaC plasma foregrip is smooth and has a 'drop down' section on the uppper edges (where the tips of the marines fingers are) - the BoP one has slots in it like on the meltagun.

I like how the SoS flamers are really svelte compared to every flamer ever designed by GW, they look like you could actually carry one if it was made of metal!

Damn. Though I suppose I could give the Sergeant of my Mk IV Tactical Support Squad the BoP Plasmagun. That way it he looks a little special. At least the Heavy Bolters are the same so I can use them with my two Mk IV Veteran Tactical Squads.

I haven't commited to what I want to do for Special Weapons on my Breacher Squads. On one hand, I think using Gravguns as stand-ins for Graviton Guns would be good, but I don't overly like Graviton Guns.

Nvs wrote:
I purchased both Calth and this with the intention of starting a Thousand Sons 30k army. Just waiting to see what Forgeworld releases as far as special unit, terminators, and dreadnaught. Plus the rules obviously.

As far as paint, the description of the red in the Ahriman book is how I plan to do mine. It's described as red so dark that it looks black in shadows. Or something along those lines.

So who's red is darker: Thousand Sons or Word Bearers?

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Assuming equal coverage of the red ink wash, the gold base should be a little darker and a little warmer; the silver base should be a little brighter and a little cooler.

Vorian wrote:
I disagree, the videos are really pretty simple to follow and give you something that looks good.

Long may they continue

Agreed. I'm tabletop quality at best after 15+ years painting but my painting has improved more the last year or so with these cool videos.
I really like the one for the wolves linked above.


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 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:
On topic: How many people are buying it for starting a 30k army? How many folks are combining it with Betrayal at Calth for that end?

I like this mark armor better than any other I've seen. But I'm buying it for the boardgame (although I have B@C and could combine them if the new 40k is any good).

Just ordered both Prospero and BaC, my TSons army is about to get a whole lot larger!

I am pretty excited to see what people do with the new set. There are too few Thousand Sons armies out there and I love to see other people's takes on the force. It's also secretly nice to know that I have a 5 year head start on anyone making a similar army

Now all I have to do is decide what to do with another 70+ marines. Fortunately the only rule I need abide to is the rule of cool...

Edit: Ah heck, probably should have gotten some paint to go with them/1

Nvs wrote:
I purchased both Calth and this with the intention of starting a Thousand Sons 30k army. Just waiting to see what Forgeworld releases as far as special unit, terminators, and dreadnaught. Plus the rules obviously.

As far as paint, the description of the red in the Ahriman book is how I plan to do mine. It's described as red so dark that it looks black in shadows. Or something along those lines.

The Thousand Sons Dreadnought is already out:
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Thousand-Sons-Contemptor-Dreadnought

Between Calth and Prospero, I think the MKIII marines will be split between Iron Warriors and Death Guard, while the MKIV will be mixed between Thousand Sons, Ultras (and I guess) enough Word Bearers and Space Wolves to play a "proper" game of Prospero - assuming the boardgame part is actually any good. I just feel like the Wolves and Thousand Sons will both work better for me in MKIV than MKIII.

 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:
On topic: How many people are buying it for starting a 30k army? How many folks are combining it with Betrayal at Calth for that end?

I AM! Playing emperors children

Vorian wrote:
I disagree, the videos are really pretty simple to follow and give you something that looks good.

Long may they continue

Agreed. I've always liked their painting videos, even the quick tip ones they've been doing lately.

Mine is going to be split three ways; SoS, Custodes and one squad of Wolves built for the actual game (which is what I did for Calth); the other side for both games will be built from my nascent CSM army, using a mix of Mk III, Mk IV and normal CSM and the remainder will go to make some special weapons squads for my Ultramarines, so I can use them in 30k if I want. I've been using Mk IV for ranged squads (plasma, missiles, etc.), going to use the Mk III for melta and flamer squads.

I really want a box for December since I'm taking the Christmas week off from work. For me, all those 30 marines and terminators will be for Iron Warriors!

Yeah I'm probably going to take ten or so and turn them into special weapon squads for my UM, and out the other twenty into a box with twenty mark 4, some mark 8 from Deathwatch, and some Mark 7 modern marines and make me a battle company list.

I'm going to swap some parts out between this and Calth, to make a 20 man tactical squad and ten man veteran squad of MKIV Emperors Children, and the same in MKIII for Deathguard.

Each will get one termie squad too. The EC will have the dread as it fits better with MKIV I reckon.

Then I can play both games with opposed (non cannon) Heresy armies.

It also gives me a reasonable start if I want to fall down the HH rabbit hole.

Regarding future SoS releases Kraut Scientist has dug out an older artwork with some good hints at what FW could produce for the range. I especially like these dogs. With how close most models in BoP already are I think there is a good chance FW will continue to stay true to these concepts

Large image - via the Eternal Hunt blog

I know I shouldn't care so much, but I'm having a heck of a time deciding on whether or not I should start a 30k Thousand Sons force or if I should just paint them like regular 40K Thousand Sons because of the lack of clear cut direction on when they changed their colors and emblem. It really bugs me. I can't really afford to buy two separate armies right now, so I have to prioritize one or the other...

I use my Sons of Horus models as Black Legion units with veterans of the long war-upgrades in 40k games and will continue to do so with TS. With BaC and BoP (and lots of Rhinos, LR, artillery like Rapiers and other 40k models plus some resin FW characters) the amount is already enough for the occassional 30k game. I think you should decide what game you want to give priority, 30k or 40k and then choose the colour scheme. You could also send Forgeworld or the White Dwarf team an email or ask about it on Facebook, they have been pretty good at answering stuff like this lately

I`d totally trade some of the Prospero Marines for some Calth ones if I get this.

I still have B@C sitting in its box. I was going to do Salamanders because MkIV helmets lend themselves to a dragon look. But now I really want to do Thousand Sons with BoP. But I didn't really want to do two new armies, just one. Of course I have mounds of other plastic to paint first. So it's all really a theoretical dilemma.

Funny enough, I picked up 2 Calth sets and all the pads, heads,etc to make Thousand Sons. Then I bought 2 of BoP. Besides Ahzek, the set will be made into the core of Imperial Fist army as id like to use the SoS and Custodes.

As for armor color as a base for Thousand Sons, all opinion on what you like. Silver Base/Gold base. I did mine in silver with the clear red airbrushed and love it.

I also read the rules for playing the board game. Basic but seems fun enough I want to give it a go. Also their rules writing seems to be getting better and better with added good examples on how stuff works. A big plus to see them putting effort into their board games again and making them with good quality. The quick reference sheets are a big plus.

Gonna use 21 of the Mk3 and the Cataphractii from BaC to finally get my Death Guard going. Tartaros and Custodes will be going with the Mk4 from BaC to my Imperial Fists. The remaining 9 Mk3, SoS and characters will go to my wife's projects.

And here's the third one:

Myself and a few buddies split this box three ways, they have been looking for something to paint and do some skirmish games with so I let them know this was coming out and we ordered it a few days ago. Super pumped about those mk3, bought some of the BoC stuff to go along with this set.

Definitely going to buy a box for my Dark Angels. My plan are to put most of my BoC minis into veteran squads, to represent the elite of the Legion getting the better armor. The leftovers and the Prospero box will be used for Legion tacticals or despoilers. Hopefully we see a Dreadwing ROW that helps it make sense in my head cannon.

Ya know, extra souped up Mk III armor for Dreadwing tacticals heading into dire/Zone Mortalis situations.

The whole deal with SoS only being in unbound armies has really killed it.

I had offered to buy about 20 of em from people but now, well, I'm in a bind. I don't know if I need them if I can't play them at most organised events.

 godswildcard wrote:
I know I shouldn't care so much, but I'm having a heck of a time deciding on whether or not I should start a 30k Thousand Sons force or if I should just paint them like regular 40K Thousand Sons because of the lack of clear cut direction on when they changed their colors and emblem. It really bugs me. I can't really afford to buy two separate armies right now, so I have to prioritize one or the other...

I'm considering a couple of squads in each of the two schemes. 40k DA have three concurrent schemes (green, black, bone), Sons of Horus have at least two, as do Word Bearers. I'll also supplement both sets of TS with some GW, FW and 3rd party bits and consider the force "good enough" to play in various eras.

 Azazelx wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
I know I shouldn't care so much, but I'm having a heck of a time deciding on whether or not I should start a 30k Thousand Sons force or if I should just paint them like regular 40K Thousand Sons because of the lack of clear cut direction on when they changed their colors and emblem. It really bugs me. I can't really afford to buy two separate armies right now, so I have to prioritize one or the other...

I'm considering a couple of squads in each of the two schemes. 40k DA have three concurrent schemes (green, black, bone), Sons of Horus have at least two, as do Word Bearers. I'll also supplement both sets of TS with some GW, FW and 3rd party bits and consider the force "good enough" to play in various eras.

With T-sons, it seems easier than most to explain away why they may have these pristine sets of armor from the old days...

"They got sent into the warp and haven't been seen until now."

 Thunderfrog wrote:

The whole deal with SoS only being in unbound armies has really killed it.

I had offered to buy about 20 of em from people but now, well, I'm in a bind. I don't know if I need them if I can't play them at most organised events.

If you like the models, then get them. Not every game is a tournament - Unbound is not an issue if you talk to your opponent beforehand, especially for something as tame as a few units of Sisters.

And on top of that, I would expect Sisters and Custodes to get ways to be used in the not too distant future. It happened for all the models in Betrayal at Calth, it happened for Deathwatch/Genestealers, etc. The box like just came out, have patience.

 godswildcard wrote:
I know I shouldn't care so much, but I'm having a heck of a time deciding on whether or not I should start a 30k Thousand Sons force or if I should just paint them like regular 40K Thousand Sons because of the lack of clear cut direction on when they changed their colors and emblem. It really bugs me. I can't really afford to buy two separate armies right now, so I have to prioritize one or the other...

They didn't change their armor color until after prospero fell and they were transported into the warp/their newly readied demon world with Magnus. One may also assume perhaps they didn't change their armor color until struck by the rubric of ahriman a little while later (32nd millennium?) If you want to keep things accurate i'd do 30k sons in red, and post heresy TS blue. I trust what forge-world shows in their books more than what is read in the black library books, which are fairly hit/miss and you have an authors interpretation and there are many authors of those books. The heresy thousands sons scheme should be expanded on more with the release of inferno/book 7 soon enough. I particularly want to see more FW scheme layouts, I remember when the emperor's children ones were unveiled with the release of betrayal and they looked amazing with the gleaming metallic purple.

Anyone have any good ideas for making the bases for this set look like the game board/tiles? I was thinking using plastic card cut into square tiles and painted to match the board. That's probably the cheapest way to go instead of getting more costly themed resin bases.

 Nah Man Pichu wrote:
Definitely going to buy a box for my Dark Angels. My plan are to put most of my BoC minis into veteran squads, to represent the elite of the Legion getting the better armor. The leftovers and the Prospero box will be used for Legion tacticals or despoilers. Hopefully we see a Dreadwing ROW that helps it make sense in my head cannon.

Ya know, extra souped up Mk III armor for Dreadwing tacticals heading into dire/Zone Mortalis situations.

This is what I did. I now have 40 tac but built a 5 man legion tac support squad w/meltagun (1 extra from BaC) and a sgt w/plasma/pfist. All the bolt pistols and chainswords used for great use. Command squad as well. Finally expanded my DG beyond tac, breachers and terminators, and armor. Assault marines jetpack/torsos sadly can't get around but the other stuff is flexible. Much luck with your Dark Angels!