Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

One thing I’m curious about is cross compatibility with the Darkoath Ravagers kit from Warcry. Once they are available again, I’m snagging at least 2 of the Warcry boxes to have moreoptions/less repetition in my units.

Snagged one of the army boxes on pre-order. Almost got a second, but my fiscal discipline kicked in.

Incoming Warlock Engineer

Pretty cool, pretty cool.

I shall call him Wallace! For his engineering prowess and love of cheese!

And as if like magic, full article:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/22/skaven-warlock-engineer-fuse-magic-and-technology-with-this-rodent-researcher-from-the-clans-skryre/?utm_source=Social+Media&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=AoS&utm_content=Mini+reveal&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2kn5s0rKae_-W4DFGvFCRYW0SGJi1yHqxegsGjlw1hkLXQFgNV4Vy9eVQ_aem_ATrclnoL5q6rkZw_eoFv8aTplu6q3TIh64eHlTXZNdWAq4P5psCi-oKeotunYOr6huUNzs1ZVcEKi4jOra5E6u4W

So does the Sniper Master ability only ignore the second bullet point of Guarded Heroes or the whole thing?

Seems to give definitive timing ("when picking the target for their shooting attacks") which suggests only the second bullet point (as that's the only part of the rule that matters "when picking the target" for your shooting attacks).

Hurray, ambiguity. Maybe it's cleared up by the full rules.

I’m encouraged that the Ratses aren’t overly blingy.

 Rihgu wrote:
So does the Sniper Master ability only ignore the second bullet point of Guarded Heroes or the whole thing?

Seems to give definitive timing ("when picking the target for their shooting attacks") which suggests only the second bullet point (as that's the only part of the rule that matters "when picking the target" for your shooting attacks).

Hurray, ambiguity. Maybe it's cleared up by the full rules.

That's a... depressingly good catch.

But at least there's good independent character protection in the core rules.

love the new model

I am not impressed by that model. Maybe it is the paintjob, maybe something else but it does nothing to me. Compared to Bombardier it looks lifeless.

 Rihgu wrote:
So does the Sniper Master ability only ignore the second bullet point of Guarded Heroes or the whole thing?

Seems to give definitive timing ("when picking the target for their shooting attacks") which suggests only the second bullet point (as that's the only part of the rule that matters "when picking the target" for your shooting attacks).

Hurray, ambiguity. Maybe it's cleared up by the full rules.

They wrote it as "For the Rest of the Turn" they ignore the rule "When picking their target" - the "For the Rest of the Turn" they ignore the rule, so that would, as written, mean that they ignore the whole thing, not just clause two.

Phrased differently, the trigger is "When picking a target", the result is "They ignore the rule for the rest of the turn".

 Rihgu wrote:
So does the Sniper Master ability only ignore the second bullet point of Guarded Heroes or the whole thing?

Seems to give definitive timing ("when picking the target for their shooting attacks") which suggests only the second bullet point (as that's the only part of the rule that matters "when picking the target" for your shooting attacks).

Hurray, ambiguity. Maybe it's cleared up by the full rules.

It reads to me you use the Sniper Master prior to any attack sequence, given there is no timing imperative for "pick a visible hero" under the declare step outside of "shooting phase" for the whole ability. In which case once the Warplock Jezzails or whatever target the unit, the Guarded Heroes has already been removed for their shooting attacks, avoiding the hit penalty.

I've actually re-read it, and it's not meaning "picking a target" as in the step of the attack sequence where you pick targets.

It's actually referring to when you pick the target you ... erm, targetted? when you declared the ability (ie the enemy hero) as the target of your attacks, you ignore the ability.

So not ambiguous afterall, just, awkwardly worded. The wording they picked happens to coincide with the wording of another thing. Only with careful reading can you parse out what they're actually meaning.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
I am not impressed by that model. Maybe it is the paintjob, maybe something else but it does nothing to me. Compared to Bombardier it looks lifeless.

I thought it was just me but the new shaven are really boring and dont look fun to paint at all.

They seem to have more fur, NAVARRO, despite being shaven.

 Dysartes wrote:
They seem to have more fur, NAVARRO, despite being shaven.

Not going to edit typo, its shaven from now on.

Wasn't too impressed by the clanrat, but Il really like that Warlock

 lord_blackfang wrote:
But at least there's good independent character protection in the core rules.

Yeah, infantry heroes always seemed very flimsy in the prior editions.


Honestly, though, I'm just left thinking 'why can't 40k have this?'.

It seems substantially better than Characters being glued to a single unit.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/24/heres-how-battlepacks-battleplans-and-the-generals-handbook-work-in-newaos/

new rules for battleplans and info on how gw plans to handle the general's handbook

Oh good season bloat is staying.

I think one handbook a year is slightly over-exaggerating bloat.

especially when the books are specifically replacing each other, rather than adding on top. it's not bloat, it's rules replacement. i think it's fair to dislike that, but since this is specifically for matched play, it's pretty easy to let it pass you by. on the other hand, i think these rules are a nice way of keeping games fresh and adding new extras without going too far with it

It's nice to see someone who actually has a positive outlook on this site for a change.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
especially when the books are specifically replacing each other, rather than adding on top. it's not bloat, it's rules replacement. i think it's fair to dislike that, but since this is specifically for matched play, it's pretty easy to let it pass you by. on the other hand, i think these rules are a nice way of keeping games fresh and adding new extras without going too far with it

This. I figure they'll also use the GHBs to provide updated core rules, just like they currently do, but that's covered by errata as well for folks who don't want to buy a copy. We'll probably also see more of the primal magic style of rules, given how they've described modular rules as a thing they want to experiment with for seasonal play. It'll probably work more smoothly as well, as they can simply replace entire sections of the book for a season.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
It's nice to see someone who actually has a positive outlook on this site for a change.

You can be positive and dissatisfied at the same time they are not mutually exclusive. Just saying.
Seems to me you have a negative opinion about Dakka.

Dakka's known as Whineseer 2.0 for a reason.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Dakka's known as Whineseer 2.0 for a reason.

Is that your positive outlook? I pass then

No, it's just stating the obvious really.

Obvious but only in your opinion, which you are perfectly entitled to, just as I am entitled to disagree with you.

Battle tactics:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/26/battle-tactics-are-the-key-to-winning-in-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-heres-how-they-work-in-newaos/

I like the way you can screw with the double turn