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 Jihadin wrote:
Has either side denounce the violence?

Not that I've seen. They likely won't, as it's easier to not address it, or just say "Oh, they weren't our supporters". Otherwise, they get roped into apologizing for every riot or protest.

Such violence should be denounced.

As weak and ineffective. Next time, use ultraviolence.

Seriously, though, this election is dumb.
Day after endorsement, Ryan slams Trump

 jmurph wrote:
Such violence should be denounced.

As weak and ineffective. Next time, use ultraviolence.

Seriously, though, this election is dumb.
Day after endorsement, Ryan slams Trump

Well, he did side with Mitt Romney, Captain Flip Flop.

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Has either side denounce the violence?

Not that I've seen. They likely won't, as it's easier to not address it, or just say "Oh, they weren't our supporters". Otherwise, they get roped into apologizing for every riot or protest.

By the magic of Google I was able to do a deep and intense search, and after less than 30 seconds determine that both Hillary and Sanders have denounced the violence for months now.

Glad we got that solved.

Same 30 sec's. None of them personally denounce the violence. I've Hillary Chairman and that's about it.

 whembly wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

Second, I'm sorry people are protesting and causing a gakstorm at a Trump rally but guess what? The brought it on himself. You can't piss in the wind and be surprised when it hits you in the face.

That argument is no different than a rapist blaming the victim for wearing that hot dress.


Protest all you want... but, resorting to violence should be called out no matter which sides does it.

The irony of all of this is that it helps Trump, as it clarifies this election as a BINARY choice. While minimizes the #neverTrump... like me.

The difference is that Trumpo is actively working to threaten the interests of Mexicans and Muslims, so they've got some kind of moral right to actively work back. A rapist doesn't have any moral right to assault a woman for wearing a skimpy dress.

I agree that violence is not the best way, though.

No. Stop.

The moral right is to PEACEFULLY PROTEST and PEACEFULLY ENGAGE the system... the best defense against bad speech is GOOD SPEECH.

The only moral right for violence is to eject an actual-honest-to-god Tyrant/Dictator.

Read what I typed.

Then apologise for equating rape with political protest.

 jmurph wrote:
Such violence should be denounced.

As weak and ineffective. Next time, use ultraviolence.

Seriously, though, this election is dumb.
Day after endorsement, Ryan slams Trump

To whomever running this Universe Simulation... this has sufficiently gave me brain aneurysm:
Susan Sarandon: Trump Might Be Better for America Than Hillary Clinton

Please stop...


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 Kilkrazy wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

Second, I'm sorry people are protesting and causing a gakstorm at a Trump rally but guess what? The brought it on himself. You can't piss in the wind and be surprised when it hits you in the face.

That argument is no different than a rapist blaming the victim for wearing that hot dress.


Protest all you want... but, resorting to violence should be called out no matter which sides does it.

The irony of all of this is that it helps Trump, as it clarifies this election as a BINARY choice. While minimizes the #neverTrump... like me.

The difference is that Trumpo is actively working to threaten the interests of Mexicans and Muslims, so they've got some kind of moral right to actively work back. A rapist doesn't have any moral right to assault a woman for wearing a skimpy dress.

I agree that violence is not the best way, though.

No. Stop.

The moral right is to PEACEFULLY PROTEST and PEACEFULLY ENGAGE the system... the best defense against bad speech is GOOD SPEECH.

The only moral right for violence is to eject an actual-honest-to-god Tyrant/Dictator.

Read what I typed.

Then apologise for equating rape with political protest.

I did. You're still mistaken.

This wasn't a protest, this was violence. So, justifying this violence because of what Trump has said/represent is equivocation to a rapist blaming his actions because of how his victim is dressed.

 Jihadin wrote:
Same 30 sec's. None of them personally denounce the violence. I've Hillary Chairman and that's about it.

Google harder.

They both did, personally, back in March when all of this first started.

If we want to move the goalpost from "denounce violence" to "denounce it every time it happens" then we can, I guess, but that seems silly.

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Has either side denounce the violence?

Not that I've seen. They likely won't, as it's easier to not address it, or just say "Oh, they weren't our supporters". Otherwise, they get roped into apologizing for every riot or protest.

Trump has a history of condoning violence by his supporters against protestors.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35793103

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Has either side denounce the violence?

Not that I've seen. They likely won't, as it's easier to not address it, or just say "Oh, they weren't our supporters". Otherwise, they get roped into apologizing for every riot or protest.

Trump has a history of condoning violence by his supporters against protestors.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35793103

Hey, we said denounce, that is TOTALLY different!

We always mention inactive participants in elections, low voter turn out, under informed to misinformed voters etc etc etc......now we have some entertainment

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!

 Jihadin wrote:
We always mention inactive participants in elections, low voter turn out, under informed to misinformed voters etc etc etc......now we have some entertainment

and still wouldn't be surprised by low voter turn out.

Its the reason I am voting for Trump. He entertains me. Also something he mention back a couple weeks ago I agree with...

 Frazzled wrote:
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!

COMPULSORY ENJOY. YOU WATCH NOW.

The reality TV star comes of age in his greatest role yet.

 Jihadin wrote:
Its the reason I am voting for Trump. He entertains me. Also something he mention back a couple weeks ago I agree with...

he said a lot of things a couple of weeks ago, doesn't exactly narrow the field some

Herman Cain quoting the Pokemon Movie was entertaining. Trump's just screwed up.

That is the point of what he said, he doesn't want you to know.....

Asterios wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Its the reason I am voting for Trump. He entertains me. Also something he mention back a couple weeks ago I agree with...

he said a lot of things a couple of weeks ago, doesn't exactly narrow the field some

Why I can't claim the 110% entertainment excuse. For the life of me it most be a low priority for me

Edit

Being I can't remember what he said I agree with

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!

COMPULSORY ENJOY. YOU WATCH NOW.

The reality TV star comes of age in his greatest role yet.

The greatest film ever told, based on real events!

 Spinner wrote:
Herman Cain quoting the Pokemon Movie was entertaining. Trump's just screwed up.

I had to look that up. How did I not know about this?

 LordofHats wrote:

 Spinner wrote:
Herman Cain quoting the Pokemon Movie was entertaining. Trump's just screwed up.

I had to look that up. How did I not know about this?

I'm not sure. It was the single greatest moment of the last election.

I think my favorite part about it was Jon Stewart finding a more appropriate Pokemon quote for the speech, trying desperately to get through his bit without laughing too hard.

 Jihadin wrote:

Asterios wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Its the reason I am voting for Trump. He entertains me. Also something he mention back a couple weeks ago I agree with...

he said a lot of things a couple of weeks ago, doesn't exactly narrow the field some

Why I can't claim the 110% entertainment excuse. For the life of me it most be a low priority for me

Edit

Being I can't remember what he said I agree with

but you agree ?

looks like the Mayor of San Jose is coming under major fire from all sides over his comments and actions.

and trump has put up this meme:



also it seems these are popping up to before events like San Jose:

 whembly wrote:

This wasn't a protest, this was violence. So, justifying this violence because of what Trump has said/represent is equivocation to a rapist blaming his actions because of how his victim is dressed.

There are some things that do deserve (and must!) be met with violence whereas how a person is dressed is irrelevant. If you want to say that in this particular case whatever happened wasn't justified for whatever reason then ok but you're throwing out big sweeping statements that don't hold up.

There is always violence in a protest, anyway, because even if nothing happens that's the implication. The whole point of a protest is to say that "we're being relatively nice for now". Otherwise it's kind of a waste of time because whatever you're protesting can simply ignore you.

I think we can add memes to the list of things Trump doesn't understand.

Rosebuddy wrote:

 whembly wrote:

This wasn't a protest, this was violence. So, justifying this violence because of what Trump has said/represent is equivocation to a rapist blaming his actions because of how his victim is dressed.

There are some things that do deserve (and must!) be met with violence whereas how a person is dressed is irrelevant. If you want to say that in this particular case whatever happened wasn't justified for whatever reason then ok but you're throwing out big sweeping statements that don't hold up.

There is always violence in a protest, anyway, because even if nothing happens that's the implication. The whole point of a protest is to say that "we're being relatively nice for now". Otherwise it's kind of a waste of time because whatever you're protesting can simply ignore you.

really? how many protests have you been too? I've seen a lot that were not violent.

by your words if I don't like how you think and want to protest I can hit you, beat you and attack you and that is ok ?

also Trumps supporters were tagged and attacked most likely by their hats or shirts or signs which said Trump on them, so do you wish to reword your post?

also on a side note if you don't like the Ghostbusters reboot, you are a trump supporter:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/entertainment/judd-apatow-ghostbusters-trump/index.html?sr=fbCNN060316judd-apatow-ghostbusters-trump0528PMStoryGalLink&linkId=25177479

Rosebuddy wrote:

 whembly wrote:

This wasn't a protest, this was violence. So, justifying this violence because of what Trump has said/represent is equivocation to a rapist blaming his actions because of how his victim is dressed.

There are some things that do deserve (and must!) be met with violence whereas how a person is dressed is irrelevant. If you want to say that in this particular case whatever happened wasn't justified for whatever reason then ok but you're throwing out big sweeping statements that don't hold up.

There is always violence in a protest, anyway, because even if nothing happens that's the implication. The whole point of a protest is to say that "we're being relatively nice for now". Otherwise it's kind of a waste of time because whatever you're protesting can simply ignore you.

Riots/violence <> Protest.

So, I reject your premise and stop making me defend the Trump voters.

 whembly wrote:
stop making me defend the Trump voters.

It's step one in where we know this is going. Accept it, it is your destiny.

 Ouze wrote:

 whembly wrote:
stop making me defend the Trump voters.

It's step one in where we know this is going. Accept it, it is your destiny.

Food for thought...

Which candidate will be held accountable by the media?

 Ouze wrote:

 whembly wrote:
stop making me defend the Trump voters.

It's step one in where we know this is going. Accept it, it is your destiny.

#NeverTrump leads to #MaybeTrump. #MaybeTrump leads to #AlwaysTrump. #AlwaysTrump leads to #TheDarkSide.