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RatBot wrote:Pretty sure the Mangler Squig unit entry is actually described as two big Squigs chained together, "guided" by (particularly foolish) Night Goblins, and stacking them is the only way they can get two Squigs that large onto one 60mm base.

Then perhaps they shouldn't have been that large.

Howard A Treesong wrote:Is there a reason why the model depicts one squig standing on the head of another instead of a single big f-off sized squig?

Because Warhammer Forge are doing one of those in Monsterous Arcana as far as I know?

AlexHolker wrote:

RatBot wrote:Pretty sure the Mangler Squig unit entry is actually described as two big Squigs chained together, "guided" by (particularly foolish) Night Goblins, and stacking them is the only way they can get two Squigs that large onto one 60mm base.

Then perhaps they shouldn't have been that large.

No argument here. I'm simply saying that's why the Mangler Squig kit must be two Squigs on one base instead of one giant one, which is what Howard asked.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Anything that gets sculptors other than Trish to sculpt GW monsters is a good thing.

+1

- Salvage

Howard A Treesong wrote:Is there a reason why the model depicts one squig standing on the head of another instead of a single big f-off sized squig?

That's the way they are described in the book. The model is actually dead on to what they describe. Two giant caves squigs chained together with a handful of inept night goblins trying to guide them along, getting caught in the chains and smushed dead as the rolling ball of doom impacts with a unit.

Great model. painted up a couple of them.

RatBot wrote:Pretty sure the Mangler Squig unit entry is actually described as two big Squigs chained together, "guided" by (particularly foolish) Night Goblins, and stacking them is the only way they can get two Squigs that large onto one 60mm base..

Whilst I was researching how I'd be able to afford the models I came accross this beauty, which shows a giant cave squig and skarsnik's giant squig easily on a 60mm base.


I trialed 2 giant cave squigs, no problems, only issue was the cost of making 3 of the damned things.

MajorTom11 wrote:So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Heh, I'm looking at the Cygon, and Necrosphynx, to make Magnus...



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LazzurusMan wrote:Has nobody else realised that the Jabberslythe is an almost exact copy of the design for the JHabberwocky from the movie, Jabberwocky???

Which, takes off the well known Tenniel illustrations from -Alice through the Looking Glass- It was pretty clear from the day it was printed that the Jabberslythe was a Alice Expy......

Lanceradvanced wrote:

LazzurusMan wrote:Has nobody else realised that the Jabberslythe is an almost exact copy of the design for the JHabberwocky from the movie, Jabberwocky???

WHich, probably takes off the well known tenniel illustrations from Alice through the Lookinglass.. It was pretty clear from the day it was printed that the Jabberslythe was a Alice Expy......

LOL yes, exactly, Lanceradvanced... in fact, here it is:



From Wikipedia.

I would have been extremely disappointed if something called a "Jabberslythe" didn't look related to this critter!

P.S. Space Emperor Celestia forever!

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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

RatBot wrote:Pretty sure the Mangler Squig unit entry is actually described as two big Squigs chained together, "guided" by (particularly foolish) Night Goblins, and stacking them is the only way they can get two Squigs that large onto one 60mm base..

Whilst I was researching how I'd be able to afford the models I came accross this beauty, which shows a giant cave squig and skarsnik's giant squig easily on a 60mm base.


I trialed 2 giant cave squigs, no problems, only issue was the cost of making 3 of the damned things.

Why would you need 3? You can only have 2 in games of 3k or less? Do you often run larger games than that?

Nagashek wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

RatBot wrote:Pretty sure the Mangler Squig unit entry is actually described as two big Squigs chained together, "guided" by (particularly foolish) Night Goblins, and stacking them is the only way they can get two Squigs that large onto one 60mm base..

Whilst I was researching how I'd be able to afford the models I came accross this beauty, which shows a giant cave squig and skarsnik's giant squig easily on a 60mm base.


I trialed 2 giant cave squigs, no problems, only issue was the cost of making 3 of the damned things.

Why would you need 3? You can only have 2 in games of 3k or less? Do you often run larger games than that?

Not often, but occasionally.
Even a couple tournaments per year with 3000 point games.

Gymnogyps wrote:

Lanceradvanced wrote:

LazzurusMan wrote:Has nobody else realised that the Jabberslythe is an almost exact copy of the design for the JHabberwocky from the movie, Jabberwocky???

WHich, probably takes off the well known tenniel illustrations from Alice through the Lookinglass.. It was pretty clear from the day it was printed that the Jabberslythe was a Alice Expy......

LOL yes, exactly, Lanceradvanced... in fact, here it is:



From Wikipedia.

I would have been extremely disappointed if something called a "Jabberslythe" didn't look related to this critter!

P.S. Space Emperor Celestia forever!

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I dont see the resemblence. I have seen the movie and remeber the Jabberwocky making an early appearance in warhammer fantasy role play back in the day, and know it originally to be a Lewis Carrol creation, but the first thing I thought when I saw the Jabberslythe was dissapointment they didnt make it look like a Jabberwocky.

I really hope that we get to see a sprue of the Ghorgon/Cygor before release, because I want to know how many skulls I need to file off before I buy it. I will probably still get one, but do a lot of small conversions on it to make it more personal and less... skull-y?

Fayric wrote:

I dont see the resemblence. I have seen the movie and remeber the Jabberwocky making an early appearance in warhammer fantasy role play back in the day, and know it originally to be a Lewis Carrol creation, but the first thing I thought when I saw the Jabberslythe was dissapointment they didnt make it look like a Jabberwocky.

The Jabberslythe looks like Jabberwock's fat, short, ugly cousin. It seems pretty clear it is "inspired by" the Jabberwocky, not a copy.

Take a look at the overall shape, especially the rounded head. It also has the bulbous body, plus smallish wings, huge hands on skinny arms, and sinuous tail. The biggest difference in shape the lack of long, thin neck for Jabberslythe. Extend that neck, give it an S bend maybe, and add some pretty gills/frills to the face, and it would be a pretty good grimdark Jabberwock.

Anyway, yes, it is not a Jabberwocky. It isn't intended to be. Its a Jabberslythe, GW's interpretation. It is enough of an homage to recognize the nod being given to Carrol and Tenniel, but it is still a new GW critter. At any rate, several of us have noted the resemblance!

Gymnogyps wrote:

Fayric wrote:

I dont see the resemblence. I have seen the movie and remeber the Jabberwocky making an early appearance in warhammer fantasy role play back in the day, and know it originally to be a Lewis Carrol creation, but the first thing I thought when I saw the Jabberslythe was dissapointment they didnt make it look like a Jabberwocky.

The Jabberslythe looks like Jabberwock's fat, short, ugly cousin. It seems pretty clear it is "inspired by" the Jabberwocky, not a copy.

Take a look at the overall shape, especially the rounded head. It also has the bulbous body, plus smallish wings, huge hands on skinny arms, and sinuous tail. The biggest difference in shape the lack of long, thin neck for Jabberslythe. Extend that neck, give it an S bend maybe, and add some pretty gills/frills to the face, and it would be a pretty good grimdark Jabberwock.

Anyway, yes, it is not a Jabberwocky. It isn't intended to be. Its a Jabberslythe, GW's interpretation. It is enough of an homage to recognize the nod being given to Carrol and Tenniel, but it is still a new GW critter. At any rate, several of us have noted the resemblance!

Bah! It dont even have a vest
No seriously, I get that its a Jabberslyth rather than a Jabberwoocky, and I guess I need to see a better picture or more angles, but honestly, I would say the overall shape, and especially the head, is the things that really set it apart from the Woocky. The "skinny arms" looks untrained and fleshy rather than the woockys insectlike arms. On the whole I see a crawling nurgle lizard where I would like to have seen a insect wyvern with a hint of turtle (and with some minor edits to set it apart as a slythe).
Funny thing is, I like the Jabberslythe more than most of GWs new monsters. Exept the dysfunctional wings (as with the other SoM monsters).

Dont like any of 'em unfortunatly.

If anybody refers to the Jabberwock as a Jabberwocky in this thread again, I will set the squigs on them.
Jabberwocky was the poem, dammit.

Fayric wrote:
Bah! It dont even have a vest !

Touche. LOL

I see your point on the Nurgle-ness, also.

I will now describe Mr. Slyth as "the Jabberwock's fat, short, ugly, fashion challenged, Nurgle corrupted cousin."

@Vampirate, usage corrected for this post.

I was hoping the Jabberslythe would look more like this lol

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Kroothawk wrote:The Jabberslythe is fine. Not a fan of the other kit: The sculptor is undecided between an untrained Giant body and muscular arms and legs of a Minotaur. The head repeats the design of the new plastic minotaur, also not my taste. The pale pink paint job is not helpful for a wild monster like that.

Personally I would prefer the Maelstrom monster, even if it is an adult model showing its genitals:

I preferred the concept Artwork from GW to the Banebeasts/Maelstrom figure, but I far prefer the Banebeasts figure to the GW one.

MajorTom11 wrote:So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Good call! I just found the box with my classic metal figures in it literally last night - about 15 hours ago or less. I'll have to dig one of those out and actually paint it!






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One thing that also annoys me about the GW kit is that the 4-armed one has only one set of pectoral muscles. Thankfully Maelstrom has some idea about how anatomy works.


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Kirasu wrote:
Is the reason an Avatar is on a square base because of some kind of internal balance? I think the answer is closer to "..Because they just are.. some guy put the wrong base in the package and we just stuck with it"

Eldar Avatar? Well, once upon a time there were no large round bases. The current Avatar has been around since 1993, and GW probably haven't changed the parts codes in all of that time, since it's been a metal figure in a box the entire time. I imagine the Finecast update will give it a round base, though. So it wasn't the "wrong" base, but the only base available at the time. All the large 40k stuff (eldar walkers, sentnels, marine, CSM, Ork dreads) came with 40mm squares for a hell of a long time. (no 50mm squares back then, either).

Forever Lona over at "Da Warpath" posted these sprue pics of the Finecast Squig:

So feasibly, one could assemble it with each Mangler Squig on their own base if one wished to?

Huh. Cool.

I certainly wouldn't care if someone decided to base them separately.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentionally done.

Yeah, that's pretty cool of GW to do in this case. I can't imagine why people would stack them up like that, instead of basing them separately...

RiTides wrote:Yeah, that's pretty cool of GW to do in this case. I can't imagine why people would stack them up like that, instead of basing them separately...

Because a Squig Totem Pole of Death is awesome, obviously.

So two for the price of one.

Good god, GW doing something that actually adds value for the consumer?

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