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RogueRegault wrote:

And the changing stats based on warcaster takes the thing I hate most about Warmachine (The 'caster specific meta) and cranks it to 20.

Isnt the Caster kind of the central part of Warmahordes? Thats like complaining about the central premise of the King in Chess

Its not like 40k where if you wanted to you could just have a bare bones leader and focus on everything else.

I would like to see a demo game with these new guys in it.

They look all pretty, but at the end of the day, after Cryx gets one or two, I want to see if they will end up sporting a skull or bones in there.


As to thier "Level 7" game? Not a fan. Seems like someones pet project getting jammed down everyones throat with all sorts of sporty advert work, and no substance. They could have done just as well doing some live action commercials for the IK/ Warmahordes lines.

What peeved me the most I think was the unabashed self congrats insincrerity that comes with ego that was forced on PP, almost without warning.


I'd really like to see these robot guys in action though. I think they will be better recieved then the elf ones were.

They were playing them / playtesting here at TempleCon last night, apparently! But I missed it

I do have more concept arts pics on my phone that I'll post once back.

Those definitely look neat. I'm kind of impressed.

 Grot 6 wrote:

They look all pretty, but at the end of the day, after Cryx gets one or two, I want to see if they will end up sporting a skull or bones in there.

Cryx already got one, Mortenebra was a priestess of Cyriss before she got... hmm... "converted"...


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RogueRegault wrote:
Meanwhile, still no real Rhulic faction.

I hate to break it to you, but there will probably never exist a Rhulic faction outside Mercenaries...

RogueRegault wrote:
Meanwhile, still no real Rhulic faction.

You are aware the rhulics are getting a colossal of their own. Yeah its just a colossal and they are mercs but the rhul folk are a faction in a faction.

OT- cyriss stuff looks rather good. Not sure I will get any as I have a few factions on the go all ready though I will wait and see

Here's the concept art that was given away as a top prize for Iron Arena:

Never played Warmachine but these are wonderful concepts, really love the look of this faction, might just get me into Warmachine. Wouldn't mind a whole army of those female angel automata's, I'm sure with a little conversion work I could alter the standard infantry to look more feminine, or if the angels are plastic convert them into various types of troops, I'd paint them white and gold just like Agis from Persona. Although I am getting a little ahead of myself here, I have no clue if conversions are even allowed by PP or accepted within the community, does anyone here know?

Well I found my next army.

 Rolt wrote:
Never played Warmachine but these are wonderful concepts, really love the look of this faction, might just get me into Warmachine. Wouldn't mind a whole army of those female angel automata's, I'm sure with a little conversion work I could alter the standard infantry to look more feminine, or if the angels are plastic convert them into various types of troops, I'd paint them white and gold just like Agis from Persona. Although I am getting a little ahead of myself here, I have no clue if conversions are even allowed by PP or accepted within the community, does anyone here know?

These are my Bane Knights;

 Rolt wrote:
Never played Warmachine but these are wonderful concepts, really love the look of this faction, might just get me into Warmachine. Wouldn't mind a whole army of those female angel automata's, I'm sure with a little conversion work I could alter the standard infantry to look more feminine, or if the angels are plastic convert them into various types of troops, I'd paint them white and gold just like Agis from Persona. Although I am getting a little ahead of myself here, I have no clue if conversions are even allowed by PP or accepted within the community, does anyone here know?

Despite the conversions shown here, they're typically not allowed in PP tournaments. Especially not with so much GW.

 RiTides wrote:
Here's the concept art that was given away as a top prize for Iron Arena:

IS that a buzzsaw shooter?

Yes. Yes it is.

 cincydooley wrote:

Despite the conversions shown here, they're typically not allowed in PP tournaments. Especially not with so much GW.

Those are still the right miniatures (the bane knights)-- I bet lots of TOs would allow them.

There's always been talk for years about "official only" and "tournament legal" but people tend to think things are far more restrictive than they actually are. People are actually really flexible in real life. They only cry "but that's not tournament legal!" on the internet.

There are lots more players in PP games that are in it for the game first and foremost, so the rate of conversions and customizations is quite low. But people still appreciate them, especially if they are as well executed as those necron-ified bane knights.

That guy better be included in the starter Box.
ALso, Release DATE, I NEED IT NOW!!!!!!

 cincydooley wrote:

 Rolt wrote:
Never played Warmachine but these are wonderful concepts, really love the look of this faction, might just get me into Warmachine. Wouldn't mind a whole army of those female angel automata's, I'm sure with a little conversion work I could alter the standard infantry to look more feminine, or if the angels are plastic convert them into various types of troops, I'd paint them white and gold just like Agis from Persona. Although I am getting a little ahead of myself here, I have no clue if conversions are even allowed by PP or accepted within the community, does anyone here know?

Despite the conversions shown here, they're typically not allowed in PP tournaments. Especially not with so much GW.

I've been tournaments in 8 different stores in five different states, including Warmachine Weekend where PP staff are in attendance. The only unit of mine that has ever been banned from an event are my Drudge Slaves, which are nothing more than Dark Eldar Wracks that use zero PP parts, and those were only banned at Warmachine Weekend, which many in attendance still found surprising. I've used them in three other tournaments in as many states.

The conversion rules are written stricter than they are enforced, and even then those Bane Knights I showed with all the GW parts are legal by those conversion rules because they're still 50% original Bane Knight parts and have the appropriate weapons. If it reasonably looks like it's what you're using it as you're unlikely to have problems.

Surprises me a bit, TBH. Our press gamgers are pretty militant about no-GW in their Warmahordes.

Well that's just stupid and not something that actually exists in the conversion rules. I've had PP staff tell me they think my stuff is cool. Although DC told me he had to hate my stuff on principle...

It's not no GW so much as can you tell what it is and is it
mostly privateer press parts.

Official conversion rules break down as;

1.) Model must contain a majority of the parts from the model it's supposed to be. Note that's not majority PP parts, it means specifically that that unit of Bane Knights has to be made of Bane Knight parts, not Bane Thrall parts even if they're similar.

2.) You can't change what kind of weapon they have. If their card says sword, you can't give them an ax.

3.) `Jacks and `Beasts are an exception to rule 2, in that you're not allowed to change their weapons at all. This is because with several jacks using the same body, those unique weapons are what tends to tell them apart. This is also however about the least enforced/followed of the conversion rules.

4.) Upgrade kits for `Jacks/`Beasts must use ALL of the parts in the upgrade blister. Upgrade kits for units/UAs only have to have the upgrade parts on the UA. A UA wiith upgrade parts has to be used as the upgrade.

5.) The most heavily enforced, straight up mandatory rule. You must use the correct base size on your figures for what they are.

The only rule I've never broken is 5. What's far more important than the Letter of the conversion rules is the Spirit of the conversion rules. Keeping things obvious and non-confusing about what they're representing.

Yeah, one of the things I've had to call people out on is wrong
base sizes. Usually it's because of packing problems, like
Old Witch's Scrapjack coming with a large base.

Great Bears have frequently been packed with medium bases as well, and they're so bad arse that people think it's correct.

"You MUST use the correct base sizes for your models."

*Ships models with incorrect base sizes.*

: I

That actually looks impressive.

If they could faithfully translate that concept art into actual models without the WoW/Starcraft-looking silly aesthetic of the other Warmahordes line, I'm sold. I may actually decide to delve into Warmachine.

Many PP models also have an excess of flat, boring parts. With the detail in the concept art, it doesn't leave much room for flat parts.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
That guy better be included in the starter Box.
ALso, Release DATE, I NEED IT NOW!!!!!!

Already been said by me in this thread. Already replied to YOU with it....

 Grimtuff wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
ANy idea on Time frame?

Prerelease at Lock and Load then on general release at the end of June from what I hear.

Post in wrong thread. Sorry :S

 cincydooley wrote:
Surprises me a bit, TBH. Our press gamgers are pretty militant about no-GW in their Warmahordes.

I think PP wants to grow the game, and knows that encouraging conversions and modelling helps that. Higher level PP staff clearly have a longer ranged view of things.

Pressgangers, like any volunteers, are generally True Believers, and can focus on winning fanboy battles. Toss in a dash of good old fashioned fun with authority, and a lot of press gangers on the ground are going spin rules out of thin air.

I've seen some pretty sweet conversions based on Reaper minis.

Pirates and Rhulic I'm looking at you. There are plenty of examples out there to be found.

Have a good start on a few myself, using one I've seen wearing a kilt, with a wrench, and the rest of them. ( ones a dwarf, theres another from reaper that needs maybe a warplock pistol, or a beer keg.

add in Grunderson and the others, and you can have yourself a pretty well rounded rhulic army.

Started on one myself, based on a mercenary contract. Then add in a couple of sweet tag alongs, and you are set.

Digging in hard on adding on some of those from Malfaux as well. Those miner guys come to mind.

So, Cyriss is basically the goddess of math/logic?

I think I found my push into Warmachine. Love the deco art style and aesthetic. Love the old school sci-fi vibe and I've always been a fan of robots, especially clockwork ones.

The shield wall units look far better in the concept art, looks like something changed there. I'd ather they had less of a humanoid head and neck type assembly, and just reserved that for the warcasters, would set them apart a bit more and reinforce that Maria-bot Metropolis vibe with Directrix and the rest. If that plastic is easily cut through I might have to modify them should they look good enough to buy.

The steel color is kinda dull, should I pick them up they are being painted bronze and brass, patina'd like crazy.