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First shot is without flash and crappy lighting.  Second shot is photoshopped lighted from Daffrid of Dysartes.com, and much closer to the true to life colors.  More pictures soon!

very nice. you seem to be a fan of the dip

personally I'd dip yellow with a brown - the black dip looks a little too grimy, unless that's the effect you want

How come they were not entirly dipped yellow? They look good but I wonder how they would have looked if they were all yellow?

Um...they are dipped brown. They are dipped in Minwax Polyshades "Antique Walnut Satin".

I didn't want to do completely yellow fists, I was going for a pre-heresy-ish type of scheme that makes them look a tad more interesting I think. Leaving most of the armor grey gives them a gritty serious look I think.

Plus I was trying to avoid the standard red and yellow "ketchup and mustard" marines.

That is some of the best yellow-work I've seen in a while. I appreciate how your have tried to make the yellow a more subtle accent.

They look great whitedragon, nice work on, on the yellow especially. The yellow guns are interesting too

Dumb question: how did you do the bases? You paint and dip them with blank bases (right?), then ... glue sand, ink it some, paint it some, drubrush it some? I've always glued down sand before priming, but I won't be doing that when I get around to dipping my Tau ...

- Boss Salvage

Guns are yellow because I couldn't think of another color to make them. Thanks for all the compliments guys.

As for the bases, I don't do them until after the model is dipped. So yes, dip model, let dry, and then I add sand and paint it.

Whitedragon-

Which yellow did you use?

Also, you might want to experiment with magic wash. I think it works really well.

-ender502

I used GW sunburst yellow.

Dang! Dipping can sure look nice. I have to get my hands on some of this dipping stuff and dip my nids away.

Superclean looking, and I love the grim look on the fists. Sure beats the yellow fairy sisters.

Greets
Schepp himself

any suggestions on dipping red marines? and where i can get the techniques from? oh yeah and where i can find the stuff in the uk?
cheers
millest

They look like decent gaming models to me but they wouldn't score high on painting points. They basically lack highlights altogether and some areas that are supposed to be clean look totally messed up. If you want to get an army done in a day then dip ahead but if you intend to make it look really good then this strategy is doomed to fail. The only time I would recommend using it would be with huge FB ranked regiments where you could dip the middle ranks and only paint the front ranks and command models properly.

Therion-

I think most of us are not going for golden demon quality. That being said... Any wash is a bit of a cheat. You have to be especially careful because you don't have as much control using a dip as you do using a blending technique. I find diping to be a great way to create depth to a model but not as a final step. Models generally need a highlight or four to start really looking nice.

Millest-

Dipping is just any type of wash work that uses a non-standard base material. "Wonder Wash" uses floor wax mixed with water and pigment. You can check out Dr. Fausts painting clinic. He has a nice article on "magic Wash" and a recipe to make your own as well as multi-country wax types.

ender502

-Therion, I definetely don't plan on winning any demons. But with dipping, I can have a fully painted army in no time, that looks good on the table. Actually, since I've started dipping, in a year I now have 4 fully painted armies, where before, it took me over a year to get just one.

Millest, go to

http://www.dysartes.com/model/painting/Dipping1.php

Everything you ever wanted to know about dipping, including what products to get depending on what part of the world you are in.

I wasn't talking about Demons I was talking about getting a good painting score at a grand tournament. The judges will be looking for clean colours and layered highlights and these models have neither. What they have is a brown shade splashed all over all of the colours. However like I said they are still decent gaming models.

those are nice dragon. I like the added silver

I like this technique, it gives the finished Marine / miniature a "dreamy" quality, and it gets rid of pesky brush strokes...etc!

Perhaps a way around the whole "quality" issue, for me, would be to try to paint a miniature to, what I ould call, display level and then dip the miniature in a finer solution. Not too much so that the quality paint work is smothered, but enough to give an all over "wash"

Then follow up with a few finishing touches, like writing on the armour, or detailed waist rope painting in the case of Dark Angels, and bang a sweet miniature.

I would say though, I'd rather have one gak hot looking army in a year, then 4 or more so so forces.....not saying this work is so so, but just commenting on the point of speed over quality.

White Dragon-

Can you explain a step by step process that you dip with? I am imagining it is a ..."paint the model and then dip" method. It is kinda hard to get around that with dipping because of the viscosity of the dip.

Try a "wonder wash" experiment when you get a chance. It has much the same effect but is way thinner and allows you to paint over the wash when you are done. It adds depth and really brings the models up a level.

But dipping IS the way to go when dealing with models that you want to look dirtier and rougher. It is what I plan to do with my LATD when I get them all constructed.

ender502

I'd have to disagree with you there. Any wash is a tool like any other technique.

Also, I'd rather see 1,000,000,000,000 dipped minis that are finished than one that isn't when I go out to pursue my pleasure... uh hobby.
Not that I'm not guilty of having unfinnished stuff on the table. I'm stating a preference here.

I could care less about paint scores or such. Those a wicked cool paint jobs and the dip did wonders.

Now, I'm going that route now on mine. However, according to 50 threads here on Dakka, my Dark Angels are a bunch of dips anyway. ;P

Nice work. Really nice work.

Exactly my viewpoint (Also the unfinished stuff, sadly).

Greets
Schepp himself

Also, I'd rather see 1,000,000,000,000 dipped minis that are finished than one that isn't when I go out to pursue my pleasure... uh hobby.
Not that I'm not guilty of having unfinnished stuff on the table. I'm stating a preference here.

Zubbiefish-

I was speaking as to the standard that the tournie winning painters use blending as opposed to dipping. But in general I agree. I would rather a dipped army than an unpainted one.

I use wonder-wash and many pro painters think that is a cheat. Me, I like the effect , so to heck with them.

ender502

Good stuff WD, one of the best dip jobs I've seen! The colors are most excellent.

Awesome.

Therion, I think most of us go for tabletop, and dipping usually
brings out a nicer tabletop paint job than I can get withOUT
dipping.

Thanks for all the replys everyone!  Even the negative ones. 

And someone asks how I painted them.  Yes I painted them and then glued them to a special "Dip Stick" I created which is nothing more than a straw glued into the bottom of a GW paint pot lid.  Then I dip the Mini into the Minwax, and then I hold it upside down inside my trashcan, (with an empty trash bag inside to catch all the dip) and then I spin the stick between my hands as if I'm trying to start a fire for about 3 or 4 seconds.  Then I put the stick in a piece of foam or in a hole in a cardboard box to dry.

Very simple.  Here's a picture that shows the dip stick.  You do have to pour alot of super glue in there to make the straw stick, and I also folded a straw and put it inside the main straw for more strength.  I've dipped a Hordes WarpWolf on this same stick and had no problems spinning it.

EDIT:  Ignore the datestamp on this picture, I didn't have it set properly and this was the first picture I took with the camera.  The time was around july of 2006.

I have used the dipping technique with success. I hot glue the models to a large nail that I use as a handle when painting. I stick the nail into a piece of flat styrofoam to hold the model for drying. When dipping, I put the nail into my variable speed drill, dip, hold the model inside a plastic lined trash container and use the drill to spin off the excess dip. I then place the nails back into the foam for drying.

I find the faster spinning of the drill removes a little more of the excess dip and makes for a slightly cleaner look. I would not use this technique for large models.

Hehe he said dipstick.

Whitedragon:

I think they look great! I'd been balking at dipping Marines, but I can see here that it definitely works. I do, however, have a few questions.

How did you actually paint them? Just base white/gray the bodies/yellow the armor/metal the bits and then dip? Did you shade them before dipping?

Hey Dragon! I love you Pre-Heresy Fists. By chance do you frequent the Fantasy shop or GW store in St. Louis at all? I've been looking for someone to show me that dip technique. Care to take on a student?