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So I'll have to get two boxes of blood bowl to get the appropriate number of Bitzers for a human team? Assuming the ideal balance for human teams remain the same.
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
Gamgee wrote: Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!
Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.
Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.
40k is setting and not a novel. Making it into novel just kills creativity from players as they can't make up their own storyline without having their work wiped by GW.
Novel isn't better than setting for novel. Make good setting. That allows creativity for players. Novel suppresses it.
40k is mess because of lousy rules. Rules!=fluff. They could easily fix rules without making good setting into novel(most likely bad one to boot).
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usernamesareannoying wrote: so how many times are they going to release, discontinue, release, discontinue this game?
what's next, space hulk again?
That's what happens when your primary source of income for Specialist Games is nostalgia.. Might as well release some "member berries" too with each team since GW seems intent on never updating the rules to fix glaring issues that could easily make these games more fun, less frustrating and cause people to play them more than a few times.
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I'll drop this here since I'm not sure it merits its own thread. (we really need a kind of 40k catch all for all the little rumour snippits)
Tom Walton who worked on many 40k vehicles is active on twitter. He mentioned that has in the office doing overtime sculpting minis for an army he has never worked on before.
30 minutes of Google fu later I have it narrowed down to Aos (he does vehicles so unlikely) nids (organic so unlikely) orks or sisters. So new ork or sisters vehicles incoming then.
Chikout wrote: I'll drop this here since I'm not sure it merits its own thread. (we really need a kind of 40k catch all for all the little rumour snippits)
Tom Walton who worked on many 40k vehicles is active on twitter. He mentioned that has in the office doing overtime sculpting minis for an army he has never worked on before.
30 minutes of Google fu later I have it narrowed down to Aos (he does vehicles so unlikely) nids (organic so unlikely) orks or sisters. So new ork or sisters vehicles incoming then.
Unless its the rumored steampunk-inspired Steamhead Duradin (who already have a Gyrocopter and Gyrobomber).
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Chikout wrote: I'll drop this here since I'm not sure it merits its own thread. (we really need a kind of 40k catch all for all the little rumour snippits)
Tom Walton who worked on many 40k vehicles is active on twitter. He mentioned that has in the office doing overtime sculpting minis for an army he has never worked on before.
30 minutes of Google fu later I have it narrowed down to Aos (he does vehicles so unlikely) nids (organic so unlikely) orks or sisters. So new ork or sisters vehicles incoming then.
Hastings mentioned there will be a 'plague army' release for 40k. Do Hruds qualify for it?
If something is sculpted now it won't be released anytime soon though. It takes about two years from design to release, so this would be a late 2017 product the very earliest, probably a 2018 one. It is more likely these are different product ranges. Hrud or Slann would be interesting though.
Orks need updated buggies and skorchas
Back in 2008 when GW showed not only upcoming product but CAD images at their Games Days (Photos: Brueckenkopf.de)
Spoiler:
There was this Skorcha kit
No info what happened to it
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Gamgee wrote: Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!
Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.
Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.
40k is setting and not a novel. Making it into novel just kills creativity from players as they can't make up their own storyline without having their work wiped by GW.
Novel isn't better than setting for novel. Make good setting. That allows creativity for players. Novel suppresses it.
40k is mess because of lousy rules. Rules!=fluff. They could easily fix rules without making good setting into novel(most likely bad one to boot).
That might mean more of they didn't keep rewriting/retconning the fluff. See Necrons/C'Tan
Chikout wrote: I'll drop this here since I'm not sure it merits its own thread. (we really need a kind of 40k catch all for all the little rumour snippits)
Tom Walton who worked on many 40k vehicles is active on twitter. He mentioned that has in the office doing overtime sculpting minis for an army he has never worked on before.
30 minutes of Google fu later I have it narrowed down to Aos (he does vehicles so unlikely) nids (organic so unlikely) orks or sisters. So new ork or sisters vehicles incoming then.
Sounds interesting. Would be really good to have a heavily modded sticky thread for just rumours. No comments or discussion, just updates regarding 40k Would something be possible Mods?
On one of the football forums I frequent we have a "Read Only" Thread. If someone has a rumour, they post it, it gets approved by a mod before it even appears in the thread, any unwanted spam just gets deleted before it even posts. That way people can keep an eye on rumours without having to trawl through pages of back and forth discussions and wishlisting etc. It would be super handy.
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Firstly, people didn't read it because it was a sticky.
Secondly, to go to one thread, read about something, then go to another thread to discuss it is clumsy when there's fundamentally no issue with the current system. As it was brand new info about a possible new rumour, Chikout was quite within their rights to create a new thread. In fact, that they didn't is the issue.
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Rerelease of Warhammer Fantasy, as they pull AOS and they let you know that they were just joking. You heard it here first.
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Gamgee wrote: Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!
Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.
Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.
The fluff has absolutely nothing to do with the current state of the game. Let's be fair, the end times is only going to happen because they've already turned it up to 11 and nobody has a better idea than to turn it up to 12.
Exactly. And the claim that advancing the fluff is letting them do new things that make 40K better is hilarious, given the stuff they've been doing recently that everyone has liked have been shameless, blatant dips into the company's own past output(Mechanicus, Heresy, GSCult) none of which need or benefit from a timeline advance.
To an extent, advancing the fluff is not strictly "advancing the fluff".
Look at Genestealer Cult/Deathwatch and Overkill. It's not them advancing the fluff but actually elaborating upon events from the past. The same thing goes with the "War Zone" books we've been getting, a few of them were set decades if not centuries before the "Minutes to Midnight" of the Eye of Terror campaign.
Gamgee wrote: Aw man. End time is more like the never times at this point. Nothing is happening!
Good. 40k does not need fluff moving. Too bad it's going to happen though :( Still bad decision is a bad decision.
Bad decision was keeping 40K stale for 30 years. That is why 40K is in the mess it is in now.
The fluff has absolutely nothing to do with the current state of the game. Let's be fair, the end times is only going to happen because they've already turned it up to 11 and nobody has a better idea than to turn it up to 12.
Exactly. And the claim that advancing the fluff is letting them do new things that make 40K better is hilarious, given the stuff they've been doing recently that everyone has liked have been shameless, blatant dips into the company's own past output(Mechanicus, Heresy, GSCult) none of which need or benefit from a timeline advance.
To an extent, advancing the fluff is not strictly "advancing the fluff".
Look at Genestealer Cult/Deathwatch and Overkill. It's not them advancing the fluff but actually elaborating upon events from the past. The same thing goes with the "War Zone" books we've been getting, a few of them were set decades if not centuries before the "Minutes to Midnight" of the Eye of Terror campaign.
I have no issues whatsoever with, lets call it, "horizontal expansion", with adding breadth and depth to the state of play of the setting. What I have zero interest in seeing, and which as your own point again shows is completely unnecessary to expand the setting, is timeline advancement, AoS'ification, whatever you want to call that. I don't want to see the hard work I and many others have put into writing fluff for armies and campaigns overwritten because some hack at the studio decided to wipe out the part of the sandbox we'd chosen to play in as a stakes-raiser as they push the Black Crusade to Terra so they can justify releasing 40K Custodes, or because their insistance on writing ever-more bombasic bolterporn-style fluff has put them in a corner like it did with WHF and rather than sort it out they just push the reset button.
Horizontal expansion is GW giving us more tools to play with.
Timeline advancement is GW taking our tools away, using them, and then telling us we have to accept what they've made.
I was arguing against the latter and that it isn't required to add more stuff.
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daemonish wrote: So is it blood bowl confirmed or still just speculation?
Weren't they selling it at the last FW open day?
No, but they had the first box off the production line (allegedly the first, anyway.)
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daemonish wrote: So is it blood bowl confirmed or still just speculation?
Weren't they selling it at the last FW open day?
No, but they had the first box off the production line (allegedly the first, anyway.)
should have been more specific, sorry. Is the, midnight release confirmed as blood bowl, there is a lot of AOS & 40k talk even though the title says Blood bowl, just looking for a little clarity.
The midnight event is a local thing, it could mean anything. The AoS and 40k posts are only for the giggles.
For Blood Bowl there will be a book collection on November 26 from Black Library. It will be released that day. On the first pages of this thread user Guru mentioned Blood Bowl will be released then, too.
So November 19 would be BB's preorder date and November 26 its release date.
At the Open Day they said that they were hoping for a December release, but it was something they had no say over whatsoever. Could be December, could be 2017.
Could be a pre release for the midnight opening for blood bowl. Early access, if you will, to build hype? Then have the full release in December.
Or it could be releasing earlier than they thought at the open day, because of a push from higher ups? Who knows.
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
Souleater wrote: Please, guys, take your 40k discussion elsewhere.
Where? A thread about possible 40k releases? Oh wait... this is one.
Willy waving arguments about the merits (or otherwise) of back story changes belong in 40K General. Not in an N&R that we haven't even coined is for a 40K product.
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