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So everyone seems to think that Orbital Bombardments in the Codex Marines list cannot work first turn. I ask them to find this rule and they cannot (because it's not there). Orbital Bombardment is treated exactly like a shooting weapon which can be fired "provided that the Chapter Master did not move in the preceding movement phase." To me it seems pretty obvious that the "preceding movement phase" is the movement phase directly preceding that Shooting Phase, i.e. the one in the same player turn. Thus I can fire it first turn as long as the Chapter Master did not move.

If by some stretch of interpretation the "preceding movement phase" meant "not the immediately preceding movement phase, but rather the one in the previous turn," then it is true that the Orbital Bombardment would not work the first turn. However, my opponents probably would like that (bad) interpretation even less, because it would mean that I could start the game in a Land Raider, stay still the first turn, then move the LR 12", hop out, shoot my Orbital Bombardment (at the unit i'll be assaulting,) and then assault them, because Orbital Bombardment is an Ordnance Weapon, not a Heavy Weapon, and there's no restrictions on Movement and firing Ordnance if you're not a vehicle (which is why they put that above restriction there in the first place.)

Does anyone here interpret the "preceding movement phase" to mean the one in the previous player turn, not the one immediately preceding the current Shooting Phase?

Hell no.

Dude, seriously. What?

The "preceding movement phase" is the last movement phase to happen before you shoot it.
Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to be shown Pulp Fiction 9001 times.

An orbital Bombardment can be used on any turn that you do not move in the movement phase, so you can use it T1 as long as you don't move. Note that even if you are in Terminator Armour or on a Bike, you still must not have moved.

Yeah, I figured its treated as a heavy weapons firing

unclehomefries wrote:Yeah, I figured its treated as a heavy weapons firing

No, that's the whole point of Gwar's post. It's NOT treated as a Heavy Weapon, since there are units/models that can move and fire a heavy weapon. It's treated as it's own special class, an Orbital Bombardment, and if you move, it doesn't matter what special rules you might have allowing you to shoot Heavy Weapons, you move, no Orbital Bombardment.

We seem to get one of these OB threads ever so often

No, you can NOT move at all and fire OB. At all!

No, you can NOT fire OB from *inside* a Land Raider!

BoxANT wrote:We seem to get one of these OB threads ever so often

No, you can NOT move at all and fire OB. At all!

No, you can NOT fire OB from *inside* a Land Raider!

YOU CAN HOWEVER FIRE FROM INSIDE A RHINO OR ANY OTHER TRANSPORT THAT HAS A FIRE POINT SO LONG AS THE VEHICLE DID NOT MOVE AT ALL!

CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!!!!!!!!!

And now I'm done

While we're at it, another message for nearly everyone who plays against my Codex Marines:

STERNGUARD'S BASE ATTACKS *ARE* 2, IT'S NOT JUST VANGUARD! YES, WHEN I CHARGE NEXT TO PEDRO EVERY STERNGUARD GETS 4 ATTACKS!

Sternguard are JAM: Just Another Marine

Whoops my bad on the mix up. Sorry!

Gwar! wrote:



CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!!!!!!!!!

EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL, YOU STILL HAVE TO STEER.

Youch - check your dates before posting, please!