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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/30 17:34:56
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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Dante
Corbulo
6 x Assault squad
-rhino
-pfist
2x Veteran assualt squad
-rhino
-2x melta
2x Attack bike
-MM
Land Raider Crusader
-Extra Armor
8x Death company
Death company rides in raider with Dante/Corbulo. Drive the army down the opponent throat, with rhinos screening the land raider. Automatically Appended Next Post: Anyone that knows anything about BA want to give me some much needed advice?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/07/30 19:19:19
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/30 19:53:13
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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How many guys in the assault squad? It seems like Dante is the only one with a Jump pack so hes stranded all by himself ready to get instant killed by a strength 8 weapon. I play this list with all jump packs and no vehicles and it works well but i dont know how going with vehicles would work since you get out from blown vehicles, cant charge, get shot to death then whatever is left can charge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/30 20:19:00
Subject: Re:2k BA competitive?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This is basically the right shape for a Blood Angels army (attack units, Dante, Corbulo), but as the previous comment mentions, Dante needs a squad or two to fly around with. I'd change a rhino borne assault squad or two into jet pack squads, or one of the Vet assault squads (they should also have a fist).
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All in all, fact is that Warhammer 40K has never been as balanced as it is now, and codex releases have never been as interesting as they are now (new units and vehicles and tons of new special rules/strategies each release -- not just the same old crap with a few changes in statlines and points costs).
-Therion
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New Codexia's Finest Hour - my fluff about the change between codexes, roughly novel length. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/30 20:43:32
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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That's right, Dante does not have the ability to drop the jump pack does he? If that is the case I can drop the LRC and just fly him with the Death company and beef out a few squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/30 20:44:56
Subject: Re:2k BA competitive?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The LRC helps alot with extending Corbulo's bubble and transporting him in safety. You can put him in a Rhino, but be careful, he's even more important than Dante in terms of aiding your combat prowess.
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All in all, fact is that Warhammer 40K has never been as balanced as it is now, and codex releases have never been as interesting as they are now (new units and vehicles and tons of new special rules/strategies each release -- not just the same old crap with a few changes in statlines and points costs).
-Therion
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New Codexia's Finest Hour - my fluff about the change between codexes, roughly novel length. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/30 20:50:49
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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This run out puts me at 1840
Dante
Corbulo
6 x Assault squad
-rhino
-pfist
2x Veteran assualt squad
-rhino
-2x melta
2x Attack bike
-MM
10x Death company
Jump packs
leaves 160 points to maybe kit out another vet squad with more members and packs with fists in all squads. I dunno lemme hear some suggestions. Automatically Appended Next Post: I could also drop a normal assualt squad or 2 and retake the LRC with a larger vet squad.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/07/30 20:52:38
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/30 21:07:10
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Id drop something to get points for the LRC. Remember the death company go wild without a chaplain or corbulo so they are probably better off in the LRC with corbulo and then have Dante with a Vet assault squad.
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nWo blackshirts GT Team Member
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/30 21:27:50
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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This run out puts me at 2000
Dante
Corbulo
5 x Assault squad
-rhino
-4x pfist
-1x melta bombs (to spend 5 points)
Veteran assualt squad
-rhino
-2x melta
Veteran assualt squad
-packs
-2x melta
-pfist
2x Attack bike
-MM
LRC
10x Death company (purchased 3)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/31 13:59:57
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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Final version good?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/31 21:11:37
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Yeah play a couple of games and see if it works out for you.
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nWo blackshirts GT Team Member
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/31 21:25:40
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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I will prolly get some test games in next week. I am actually going to do the army as mantis warriors (I like the color scheme better) the green and white version, not the green and yello version.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/11 16:21:17
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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Playtested the 1850 version of this list last night.
2 games
1st game vs mech gaurd.
2 x 2 leman russ demolishers
1 x command with 4 flamers
1 platoon3 x 3 lascannon 10 man squads
3 x mech vets w/ meltas
2 x 5 man rough riders
Spearhead deployment
Basically we both form lines and I head straight towards him popping smoke to get myself close. I am able to get my units into assualt on the bottom of turn 3 and absolutly decimate his armor with my furious charge bonus. He comes out and gets some good shooting back but it is not enough to stop the counter charges that clean up the rest of his units.
The highlight of the game was when dante's squad made it to the back corner that contained his platoon with 3 10 man units and the platoon command. I pulled off a multi charge killing 13 guard and losing 2 marines for the trade off. All 4 units ran off the table.
No way for him to claim or contest any objectives by end of game.
2nd game VS Mech orks
3 x battle wagons
3 x truck boy squads
2 x shoota boy squads
1 x loota squad
1 x big mech w/ CFF
1 x burna boy squad
1 x dread
Dawn of war/ kill points
His deployment was heavy to the top left corner. One truck came from the right corner. Dread was hiding behind a wall in center of board.
both my bikes move of cut off the truck and threaten the dread by going TB right. I moved on center wall with dante's squad screened by the wall. I pop smoke on 2 rhinos while the rest of my units are obscured by shooting. Bikes pops truck on the right.
Lootas get 2 pens and a glance on rhino with smoke. Save them both. Dread and truck boy squad assualt rhinos truck boys pop one. dread needs 6's to hit and fails.
I clean up truck boy squad on the right with fire from LRC. Pop dread with melta and clean up one truck boy squad from rhino with squad that bailed out.
Another truck boy squad moves in and pops my vets rhino. I lose one CC dood. Lootas blow some holes in rhinos but they keep running. Battle wagons get further into postion but only take pot shots. One battle wagon seperates from the pack to try and head off a bike, the shoota boys take it down in CC.
LRC dumps DC into shoota boys and anihalates them. Dante jumps to melta a shoota boy battle wagon. My 2 running rhinos use engines to go straight towards lootas and pop smoke.
Burna battle wagon nails Dante squad. Take 32 wounds outa 96 hits. Save all but 3 after alocations. WHOOOOOO very very lucky.
At this point I had the game sealed. Pfist units are draging down trucks that got immobilized and dante is jumping around giving loving to anything within 18"
Final tally was 8 to 11
The strat of making him blow me outa my transports worked alot better than I could have hoped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 23:48:07
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Typically I don't like five man squads for troop choices but seeing you are fielding so many I think it's okay. It is nice to have a lot of armor (rhinos and lrc in this case) but there is a drawback that your army gives up a lot of easy kill points and it will hurt you in anhilation missions. You have eight rhinos by my count. You have Corbulo with the big DC squad in your one lrc and that is a super unit. If you keep them in range of Dante they can destroy anything on the charge. I would recommend that you combine the two VAS squads into one, take a couple of power fists and keep their jump packs. A large squad of VAS with jump packs is the perfect escort for Dante. The power fists are lethal when combined with preferred enemy and -1 WS due to Dante. Also remember that Dante drops -1 BS to any enemy unit within 6"... I always seem to forget that rule.
The MMAB are also easy kill points. If you plan to take this army to a lot of tournaments giving up the easy kill points will hurt since a lot of TOs are using multiple objectives that include killpoints. I have slowly compacted by list over the course of the year so that I don't give up a lot of easy kill points and it has really helped make my army more competitive overall.
Finally there is no reason for Corbulo to disembark from the lrc... It's better to keep him protected and extend his range to grant furious charge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 00:16:56
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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wow you remember the rules for dante now. thats a very good thing now. it helps having ur codex to look at the rules doesnt it.
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nWo blackshirts GT Team Member
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 04:36:14
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Look at it this way. You can be a wise guy here and it won't bother me at all.
Carry on.
G
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 17:02:23
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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-1 to BS really helped dante vs a unit of shoota boys in that last batrep. my 1850 is a tad more consolidated 4 x assualt squad pfist rhino dante corbulo LRC 9 x DC 1 x vet + 3 members Pfist Melta Packs 2 x MM attack bikes 1 x vet rhino 2 x melta 17 kill points is still a good bit, I might drop one RAS to beef out all the other squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 17:31:55
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
UK
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Clay Williams wrote:-1 to BS really helped dante vs a unit of shoota boys in that last batrep.
BS1
That mustve been awesome.
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Friend of mine just sent me this:
"The Tyranid Codex, where I learned the truth about despair, as will you. There's a reason why this codex is the worst hell on earth... Hope. ." Too be fair.. it's all worked out quite well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 17:57:24
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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Yes it was =)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 19:14:13
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Fixture of Dakka
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If you took two Dantes then they woulnt have even been able to fire upon you... Assuming you kept the twins together. I imagine they would hate being separated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 20:02:20
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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Donovan is working on an army of 15 Emps Chumps ... I think that is what I will build to counter act it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 20:21:06
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Fixture of Dakka
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That is lots and lots of INV saves for sure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/15 01:29:44
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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i always wonder why cheaters dont feel guilt. they just keep moving on with life like nothing ever happened.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/15 01:59:31
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
UK
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Julnlecs wrote:i always wonder why cheaters dont feel guilt. they just keep moving on with life like nothing ever happened.
but but... if you Re-arrange the word CHEATERS you get the word GUILT so surely they should feel lots of guilt?
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Friend of mine just sent me this:
"The Tyranid Codex, where I learned the truth about despair, as will you. There's a reason why this codex is the worst hell on earth... Hope. ." Too be fair.. it's all worked out quite well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/15 04:05:34
Subject: 2k BA competitive?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I would like to take a look at your dictionary.
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