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Are they any good in 5th edition?

10x Khorne Berserkers with a fist in a LR cost: [470]pts.

Is it worth it? Does that charge the turn they come out any good?


EDIT: gak this should be In tactics, Il asked for it to be moved.

2x 8 berzerkers with fists in a rhino = 486 points, and more than twice as good as the land raider.

The problem is you'll be bookin' it to get to where you want the 'zerkers dropped off, meaning the raider won't be shooting. Then, once it drops the boys off, it will be in prime melta range and will most likly be smoked. It also doesn't have the machine spirit of it's loyal brethren.

A Land Raider in a chaos army seems to work better with min sized marine squads scoring then delivering assault troops.

If you show up with a bunch of rhino's filled with assault troops, they will drive forward for two turns, also using smoke, and on turn 3 the troops can jump out for the assault. It also leaves you alot more points for some of the more nasty things chaos can bring. And if you are bringing lash as well, you have alot more say in where the assaults happen.

I was going to star biker marines but its too bloody expensive!

So im starting back chaos.

I see your pointabout LRs and berserkers but whats the best khorne lists?


What about this at 1.5k:

HQ

Demon Prince:[155]
Mark of slaanesh, lash of submission

Demon Prince:[155]
Mark of slaanesh, lash of submission

Troops

10x Khorne Berserker squad:[2685]
Champion, Power fist, Rhino

10x Khorne Berserker squad:[285]
Champion, Power fist, Rhino

10x Khorne Berserker squad:[285]
Champion, Power fist, Rhino

Heavy Support

2x Obliterators:[150]
2x Obliterators:[150]
Total: 1465pts

looks good, but wouldn't you want the DP's with wings?

odorofdeath wrote:looks good, but wouldn't you want the DP's with wings?

The points cost of 155 includes the wings. I'd drop a couple berzerkers from each rhino squad, as that will give you enough points for a predator or dreadnought, or even a termicide squad for some extra melta. It also makes the squads 8, which is Khorne's favored number, and 8 berzerkers are just as good as 10 in most cases.

As for the list, search for my army list, as I've tried several builds for Khorne/World Eaters.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/254025.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/251544.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/247183.page

I'm settling with the Monster Mash right now, because I spam alot of big things, and I still get to run them at the enemy all crazy, and it's alot of armor and wounds for alot of armies to deal with. Couple that with the lashes, and it can get pretty messy.

Thanks for the help Whitedragon. What do you think of Kharn? Would he be better then two lash princes?

Kharn is ok but only in CC. There's a reason people hate lash princes

Also Kharn will get killed by any stray powerfist - not so with a DP

If I run Kharn then I can run this:

HQ

Kharn the Betrayer:[175]

Elites

3x Terminator squad:[120]
3x combi-melta, chainfist

3x Terminator squad:[120]
3x combi-melta, chainfist

Troops

8x Khorne Berserker squad:[243]
Champion, Power fist, Rhino

9x Khorne Berserker squad:[264]
Champion, Power fist, Rhino

10x Khorne Berserker squad:[285]
Champion, Power fist, Rhino

Heavy Support

2x Obliterators:[150]
2x Obliterators:[150]
Total: 1507pts


Thats two termicide units and with Kharns Icon there all come around him be a mass brawl destroying everything in his path.

My Obliterators will stay back and try and pop some transports etc.