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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:06:58
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Greens for our 28mm Female heads are done and will be sent off for molding this week (regardless of current critiques). Fit well on IG figures (the scale is the same) I am leaning towards metals for affordability for everyone (.85-$1.00 each cost). Resin would push the cost to about 1.25 each.
Question for you folks, 6 pack or individual sales?
Be gentle on the critiques, its our first foray in naked human heads..
Nick - Chapterhousestudios.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:09:17
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Been Around the Block
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Emm what happen its darken then the photo i send you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:10:24
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hmm,
Dont take this the wrong way. Love the idea, however Im not loving the look of several of the heads. I think whats killing it for me is how Anime everything looks feature wise. (bug eyes, pointy nose, butch haircuts ect ect.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:13:07
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Killer Klaivex
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Oh my God. Guys, guys, you sculpt good pauldrons, but please... stay away from faces. These are, without a doubt, much worse than ANY female faces I've seen on the miniature market.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:13:22
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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It is ok, we are taking notes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:14:24
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Flashy Flashgitz
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I agree. I am happy that you are producing female heads but the anime thing is not my bag and a few of them do not seem to have eye sockets but rather eyes protruding from their heads. Eyes are hard, so kudos for succeeding where you did, but just bring some of those other gals in line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:14:32
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Killer Klaivex
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You need to take a whole damn new sculptor, guys.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:16:47
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Cheese Elemental wrote:Oh my God. Guys, guys, you sculpt good pauldrons, but please... stay away from faces. These are, without a doubt, much worse than ANY female faces I've seen on the miniature market.
dude, that is a bit harsh. Some of the old dark elf and dark eldar faces were worse. Don't stay away from sculpting faces, just keep working on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:16:58
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ok, after seeing the *new* added close up pics... I have to say, In the kindest way that I can, that you need to rework every head that is shown here.
I would not pay a nickle for those current heads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:18:31
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Faces are a pain in the butt, so we will keep trying  if at first you dont succeed... try until your fingers bleed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:18:32
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Killer Klaivex
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MachineSlave wrote:Cheese Elemental wrote:Oh my God. Guys, guys, you sculpt good pauldrons, but please... stay away from faces. These are, without a doubt, much worse than ANY female faces I've seen on the miniature market.
dude, that is a bit harsh. Some of the old dark elf and dark eldar faces were worse. Don't stay away from sculpting faces, just keep working on it.
Ok, I was a bit harsh there; GW started poorly too, but jeez, man. At least hold off on release until you can get to a much better standard.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:20:29
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Werewolf of Angmar
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jp400 wrote:Hmm,
Dont take this the wrong way. Love the idea, however Im not loving the look of several of the heads. I think whats killing it for me is how Anime everything looks feature wise. (bug eyes, pointy nose, butch haircuts ect ect.)
I dislike the heads for this very reason stated above. Perhaps consider some ponytail heads? Unless you're building on a GI Jane concept.
Sales-wise, I think a pack of 5 and then increments of 5 with slightly better deals (don't take this the wrong way, I am not trying to tell you how to run your business) would be popular. Hell, I'd buy a pack of the improved heads if I had an army that would need them.
Keep up the good work - you seem to be listening to what others are requesting
Rico...
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"Well, looks can be deceiving."
"Not as deceiving as a low down, dirty... Deceiver." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:20:45
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Well, I appreciate the reviews, I will continue to support the sculptor on his growth and I know his skills will continue to improve over time.
I do see the anime links though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:22:44
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Chapterhouse wrote:Faces are a pain in the butt, so we will keep trying  if at first you dont succeed... try until your fingers bleed.
There you go, homie. And when you do get that face that rocks you will be all the proud of yourself for it... till you post it on Dakka and it gets flamed... and you get depressed and swallow a bunch of X-Acto blades. But until then you will feel like a million bucks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:25:14
Subject: Series 1 Female Imperial Guard Head Bits - Release Date 12/30/09
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Werewolf of Angmar
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MachineSlave wrote:Chapterhouse wrote:Faces are a pain in the butt, so we will keep trying  if at first you dont succeed... try until your fingers bleed.
...and you get depressed and swallow a bunch of X-Acto blades.
...Interesting...
/Philosophical face off
Rico...
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"Well, looks can be deceiving."
"Not as deceiving as a low down, dirty... Deceiver." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:30:07
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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If you guys want to give anatomical pointers to the artist (be kind!) feel free to pm Revliss (2nd poster from the top). That is the only way to get better besides practice.
P.S. These are still going into the casting machine  I am sure there are more then a few folks would may buy them ((SARCASM AND JOKING ON)not the damn picky Dakka folks  ).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:33:05
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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.......
Wait, so because we are calling a spade a spade and saying that the heads need some more work we are now picky?
Not our fault we have half a brain and don't want to buy CRAP models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:36:57
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Been Around the Block
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Looks like i really need to move State side .. cos Asian chicks here do Looks like Anime character them SELF ...
now point taken .. i we resculpt some more new head after the space elf is done
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:39:31
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Flashy Flashgitz
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It might not be a bad idea to get a skull from the new skeleton kit and green over that... assuming it is the right scale but I think it is. Another option is to find a homeless person and drug them into submission and use them for reference. Not a bad idea to bathe them first so they do not stink up your home while you work though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:40:30
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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jp400 wrote:.......
Wait, so because we are calling a spade a spade and saying that the heads need some more work we are now picky?
Not our fault we have half a brain and don't want to buy CRAP models.
Err jeesh, you didnt notice the sarcastic raspberrying-ork at the end of my quote..
For the record, I WAS BEING SARCASTIC AND JOKING!!! Automatically Appended Next Post: MachineSlave wrote:It might not be a bad idea to get a skull from the new skeleton kit and green over that... assuming it is the right scale but I think it is. Another option is to find a homeless person and drug them into submission and use them for reference. Not a bad idea to bathe them first so they do not stink up your home while you work though.
Or a hot Giesha girl...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:44:48
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Infiltrating Oniwaban
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Uhm, Chapterhouse, you could really do better for something to put into the molding machine. As a fan of your products, here's some advice to not debase your product line. If you have low-quality stuff in there, even the really good bits will look less attractive to buyers (they'll wonder if it's just the photo/paintjob making other things look good). Pig Iron has that problem- a few cruddy things (bodies on Kolony sculpts in particular) making their other decent stuff look worse.
Even if you've invested in these sculpts, you shouldn't market them. Just my $0.02.
And to Revliss, good first sculpts, still not production quality but much better than most people's early work. Keep at it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:45:58
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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. Automatically Appended Next Post: Savnock wrote:Uhm, Chapterhouse, you could really do better for something to put into the molding machine. As a fan of your products, here's some advice to not debase your product line. If you have low-quality stuff in there, even the really good bits will look less attractive to buyers (they'll wonder if it's just the photo/paintjob making other things look good). Pig Iron has that problem- a few cruddy things (bodies on Kolony sculpts in particular) making their other decent stuff look worse.
Even if you've invested in these sculpts, you shouldn't market them. Just my $0.02.
And to Revliss, good first sculpts, still not production quality but much better than most people's early work. Keep at it!
Taken under advicement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:51:06
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Those heads definitely need more work, fellas. Take a look at the Escher heads or Sisters of Battle heads by GW for some sculpting pointers. Those are feminine looking yet still have a cool "40K edge" to them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:55:55
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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BrassScorpion wrote:Those heads definitely need more work, fellas. Take a look at the Escher heads or Sisters of Battle heads by GW for some sculpting pointers.
Please no! we all known GW have the worst sculpted female faces , please do NOT use them for example!
Werner Klocke and Sandra Garrity please ><
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 02:59:50
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:02:16
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Killer Klaivex
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LunaHound wrote:BrassScorpion wrote:Those heads definitely need more work, fellas. Take a look at the Escher heads or Sisters of Battle heads by GW for some sculpting pointers.
Please no! we all known GW have the worst sculpted female faces , please do NOT use them for example!
Werner Klocke and Sandra Garrity please ><
GW's female faces really aren't that bad nowadays. The SoB sculpts were made years ago. Newer female models look much better IMO (although there aren't many). If you want to see bad GW females, look at the Wyches.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:09:31
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Yeah, those are... not good. Definitely not something I'd buy for the purpose.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:11:54
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Werner Klocke is an awful sculptor and the faces on his models are all distorted in the same way.
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Went digging through my old posts, and guess what? I've been hating on mat ward since before it was cool
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/244212.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:12:59
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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OK OK we get it
So make some critiques besides "bad" and "not good" what specifically needs work?
What is good about them? I like the hair sculpting myself.
Capice?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:13:23
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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Well guys lets try to include constructive feed back , or else we really arnt helping at all...
First off , the faces if are scultped to look asian are actually "normal" which asian's side profile is really er...flat.
Also the eyes are too wide apart for some of the minis .
As well as for the face to look sharp and stands out , the highest part of the cheek bones should be above the nose.
I know asians's cheek bone are like abit low to almost the bottom of the nose , i guess so it looks weird on miniatures.
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