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Here is the entire list of units for one last round of curtiqueing and inspection. Thanks to all who have put in their 2 cents or even whole dollars. Those who wish to download may do so.

HQ
Magos:125 pts

Magos are high-ranking techpriests within the Adeptus Mechanicus. Typically tasked with carrying out and overseeing important Explorator missions searching for lost Archeotech. A particularly important Explorator mission may be led by an Archmagos.
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Magos..........5.......5.......4......4......3.....5.....3.....10....2+
Archmagos........6.......6.......4......5......4.....5.....4.....10....2+

Wargear: Hellpistol, Power weapon, Artificer armor, Servo arm

Options: one Magos per army may be upgraded to an Archmagos for 50 pts

the Magos may take up to 3 additional Servo attachments in any combination at the following Pt cost

10 pts....Servo arm (one additional powerfist attack in CC @ Ini 1)

15 pts....Plasma projector (Tl-plasma pistol)

10 pts.... Fusion cutter (melta-gun)

May replace his Hellpistol with a Bolt pistol for 1 pt

May take Augmatics* for 15 pts

Augmatics: the techpriest has had extensive amounts of his flesh replaced with Bionic replacements even for followers of the Machine God, either by way of horrific injury, choice or both. the priest adds +1 to his toughness and becomes Fearless, but loses 1 Initiative
He may select a transport from the dedicated transports list

a Magos may have a Bodyguard of up to 4 Techpriests at 45 pts each(these are not independent charactors and must remain in coherency with each other, the magos may leave and attach at will however)
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.3......3....3...3....1....3...1...8...3+

Wargear: laspistol, Power weapon and Servo-arm

options: may select one additional Servo attachment from the above list.
they may take Augmatics for 15 pts

Special Rules(magos): Fearless
Blessing of the Omnissiah: the techpriest may fix any weapon destroyed or immobilized result on any vehicle that the techpriest has remained in BtB with for the entire movement phase. he must roll a 5+ on a D6. Modifiers: the techpriest has 2 servo arms +1, each additional servo arm above two +1,
note that techpriests may use their Blessing of the Omnissiah at the same time as others with the rule in the same squad and they may all target the same vehicle if they choose

Special rules(techpriest retinue): Blessing of the Omnissiah, Stubborn
For every mageos in the army 1 unit of Skittarii may be taken as a troops choice


Troops

Techguard: Cost: 120 pts

Techguard....WS....BS....S....T....W....I....A....Ld....Sv
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Sergeant........3......4.....3....3.....1....3....2.....9......4+

Unit size: Sergeant and 9 Techguard

Wargear: Hellguns, Hellpistol, and, Carapace armor

Options: May include up to 10 additional Techguard at 12 pts a model
The Sergeant may replace his Hellgun with any of the following weapons: a power weapon for 10 pts, a Powerfist for 25 pts

the Sergeant may replace his Hellpistol with a Plasma pistol for 15 pts
the sergeant may have a powered Exoskeleton which adds 1 to his base strength for 5 pts*
*this is added to his base profile before applying any other modifiers from weapons

Up to 2 Techguard may swap their Hellguns for the following weapons. Flamer(free) Melta-gun(10 pts) Plasma gun(10 pts)
2 techguard may form a heavy weapon team with the following weapons. Heavy bolter(5 pts) Missile launcher (10 pts) Auto-cannon(10 pts)
Any numbar of techguard may: Swap their Hellguns for Shotguns(free) or Close combat weapons(free)
The squad may have Frag and krak grenades for 3 pts a model

The squad may select any transport from the dedicated transports list

The Squad may have Augmatics* at 5 pts a model

*Augmatics: gives the squad +1 toughness

Special rules:

Loyal to the Mechanicus: Each techguard swears an oath of fealty to the Adeptus Mechanicus. If there is a Techpriest within 12" of the Techguard they may use his leadership for any morale tests they are required to take

Emotionally Supressed: each techguard undergoes rigerous psyco-conditioning and implantation to make them less likley to break and run in the heat of combat. Techguard ignore all leadership modifiers when they are required to make a Ld test



Dedicated transports


Chimera: same as IG codex, changes are +1 BS and +15 more pts

Rhino: same as codex Space marines

Mechanicus Rhino: 55 pts

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transport cap: 8 models

Weapons: Pintle mounted stormbolter, 4 hull mounted Servo-arms*

Servo-arms: the servo arms allow the rhino to perform repairs on friendly vehicles. as long as the rhino has at least one servo-arm left and the rhino spends the movement phase in BtB with any friendly vehicle it may repair any weapon destroyed or immobilized result on a roll of 6, add +1 to the roll for each additional servo-arm beyond the first. the rhino may use this ability on itself. in addition in the assault phase the rhino may make a single powerfist attack(@ str8) for each servo-arm. these attacks are at I4.

options: the rhino may take any of the vehicle upgrades listed in the Space marines codex at the prices listed.


Elites

Secutor: 125 pts each
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Unit size: 1 secutor

Wargear: Secutor arm(CCW)

Options: Must select one additional arm weapon. Secutor arm(free) Heavy Bolter(5 pts) heavy flamer(5 pts) Assault cannon(30 pts) lascannon (30 pts) Plasma cannon(30 pts) multi laser(20 pts)

Special Rules: Monstrous Creature

Dedicated to the Ommnissiah: Secutors are techpriests who have given themselves over completely to the machine god. They are stubborn and have the eternal warrior special rule


Praetorians: 50 pts each
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.4…….3……4…..6…..3….3….2….8…..4+

Unit size: 2-10 praetorians

Wargear: 2 praetorian gauntlets(power weapon, +2 Str) with built in Hellguns(count as TL)

Options: any praetorian may replace a single praetorian gauntlet for 1 of the following, heavy bolter(5 pts) missile launcher(10 pts) Plasma cannon(30 pts)

up to 4 praetorians may replace a praetorian gauntlet with a lascannon for 20 pts or a Auto-cannon for 10 pts

Special rules:

Mind wiped: praetorians are more machine than living creature. able to ignore horrific injuries and fight on, praetorians are fearless

Structural reinforcement: due to their sturdy bodies Praetorians can fire heavier weapons without having to brace them. Praetorians have the Relentless special rule

Machine Beast: praetorians bodies can withstand damage that would destroy other warriors. their saving throw is invulnerable


Skittarii: 230 points

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Champion........5.......4.....5....5.....2.....4....2...10......4+
Gun Servitor....3......4......3....4.....1.....2....1...9........4+

Unit type: infantry

Unit size: Champion and 4 skittarii

Wargear: Hotshot lasgun and power weapon, the Champion has a Hotshot lasgun and an Eviserator.

Options: the unit may add up to 5 additional Skittarii for 20 points each.
The squad may select a transport from the transport list

any Skittarii may replace his Hotshot lasgun with a Stormbolter for free

any Skittarii may replace his Hotshot lasgun with a additional close combat weapon for free

for every 5 models in the unit a single skittarii may replace his Hotshot lasgun with one of the following weapons, TL-melta gun(10 points), heavy flamer(5 points),

the champion may replace his Hotshot lasgun with a plasma gun for 10 points.

they may add up to 2 Gun Servitors at 10 points each. Gun Servitors MUST take one of the following: Multi-melta(15 points) multi-laser(5 points) Lascannon (30 points) Missile launcher(10 points) assault cannon (20 points)

Special rules: Relentless(servitors only)

Savage nature:(skittarii only) due to extensive hormone therepy and selective conditioning Skittarii are extremly agressive warriors, neither asking nor giving quarter. Skittarii are subject to the Rage and Furious Charge special rules.




Heavy support

Ordinance Rhino: 100 pts

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Weapons: Turret mounted thunderfire cannon, pintle mounted stormbolter



Heavy weapon servitors: 100 pts

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unit size: 5 servitors

Wargear: Heavy bolter

options: any servitor may replace its heavy bolter with one of the following weapons. heavy flamer(free) multi-laser(15 pts) plasma cannon(20 pts) lascannon(20 pts) Auto-cannon(10 pts)

may add up to 5 additional servitors for 20 pts each

Special rules: Slow and Purposful

Broken Minds: Servitors are mind wiped to make them better servants this makes them totally fearless, but this can result in poor reflexes. Servitors are fearless, but they must make a leadership test at the start of every movement phase, if the test is failed they may not do anything that turn. they may use the leadership of a techpriest if he is within 12" of the servitors



Knight: 200 pts

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unit size: 1

unit type: walker

Wargear: see options

Options:

Must take one of the following weapons packages.
Errent pattern, DCCW with built in Multi-laser, DCCW with built in Auto-cannon (free)
Lancer pattern, DCCW with built in Lascannon, Lance(range 60"str8Ap1, lance,heavy1) (50 pts)
Paladin pattern, DCCW with built in Hurricane Bolter, TL-Battle cannon (50 pts)


Any pattern may may be given the POTMS upgrade for 15 pts
Any pattern may reinforce it armor plating, raising its armor values by 1 on all facings for 20 points
Any pattern may take enhanced motility limbs for 20 points This gives it the Fleet special rule. may not be taken with reinforced armor plating

Special rules:

Kin of Titans: knights are the smallest class of titans that exist. although significantly smaller that their massive brethrin the pilots of these vehicles still consider themselves to be titans, walking contemptously in and out of combats as they please. knights have the hit and run special rule.

Force fields: Knights are fitted with small Void shields. knights have a 5+ invuln save

Reactor overload: knights have powerful plasma drives that can cause devistating damage when penetrated. if a Knight suffers a explodes result on the damage table, roll a D6 on the following chart to deternmine the result of the damage.

1: the Knights containment fields hold. the Knight is wrecked instead

2-4: the knights ammo supplies are ignited. all units within D6 inches suffer a Str 4, Ap 6 hit. the knight is wrecked

5-6: Plasma overload. the plasma containment fields fail and the drive detonates. all models within D6+6 inches suffer a Str7 AP3 Hit. remove the Knight from the board.



Disclaimer: this is a unofficial codex and is not endorsed by Games-Workshop. any increase in the business of Games-Workshop as a direct result of this work is completely out of the authors control and the author is not to be held liable. Adeptus Mechanicus, Space marine/s, and all relate names are the property of Games-Workshop.

What is your deal with ultra-cheap Melta weapons?

define ultra cheap?

space marine multi-meltas are free. melta guns are the square root of 25(avoiding points post problems)

which unit are you looking at?

They aren't free for space marines...


Here's my Review of the Codex so far!

The Magus seems to be overpriced...

also he has a separate price entry for every weapon that is on the Servo-harness.
I suggest sticking it together in one big package for 30 points.


The idea of Augmetics is cool, I like it.
It says however that it makes him fearless, but below in the unit Special Rules it says he is already fearless...

I'd have to say the Tech Guard are overpriced for basically being veterans with an AP5 lasgun, that and the fact they cannot get upgrades aside from the weapon and augmetics.
I suggest making them 80 points if you keep them the way they are.
The idea of no negative leadership modifiers is cool.
Maybe instead of Hellguns they get an Assault 2 hellgun, or maybe give it longer range if you still want to justify them being 125 points.

The mechnicus Rhino is a cool idea, being able to fight in close combat as such also, I could imagine it plowing through troops that way. It however makes me kinda laugh as I imagine a Rhino with servo-arms sticking out of it.

The seculator is by far the coolest idea in here. Would be a beast to convert, probably tons of plasticard and it would come out being like a defiler.
They should cost probably more points however, around 140/150 I'd say.
Maybe being able to take another arm weapon also.

Praetorians seem to be a bit overpowered with an invulnerable save of 4+. Maybe a + or a 6+ would be more appropriate to represent that they continue fighting on even with body parts missing, because comparing their armoured bodies to the Sacred energy shield of a Space Marine Captain doesn't seem appropriate. Terminators don't even have a 4+ invulnerable save...
Their power-gauntlets seem a little overpowered being the fact that they add strength and are power weapons AND have two of them... should probably make them cost more points...

The skiitarri seemed underpowered for a starting cost of 230... Perhaps lowering that
Aside from that they seem very good.

Gotta say I love the heavy-support choices.

The ordnance Rhino is an awesome idea, maybe calling it a Predator instead of a Rhino though since Rhinos transport people... maybe use a new name altogether. Punisher? Eradicator? Something related to blasting them to smithereens I guess...

Heavy weapons servitors are cool. Maybe lower its starting cost to 80 or 90 is my only suggestion. Perhaps being able to intermingle them with Tech Guard infantry would be cool too, kind of like the Combined Squads rule for the IG.

The Knight is the coolest entry here.
My only suggestion would be raising its armor values by 1 on each side.

Land Crawler has a lot of choices for it, seems okay however.



That's my slant on everything so far.

Looks good please keep it up!

sorry you're wrong greyspark

P 134: tactical squad

Even if they were, that wouldn't make them fair or right. All of them are too cheap. The Melta-gun for the Magos is 5pts, what the hell? The one for the Skittari is 10pts and Twin-Linked, that's not so bad.... but at BS4, WTH? And lastly, the Multi-Melta for the Servitors is.... 5pts.... are we making a joke now? Multi-Melta for the same points as a Multi-Laser? Even after the points of the Servitor that's 15pts, that's less than the base purchase should be!

it does look odd.

do you want consistency? or scaled to the unit using it?

10 pts for mageos, 5 points for techguard, 15 and TL-gun for skittarii, 10 points for servitor MM.

10pts for the Magos, 10pts for the Techguard, 15pts for the Skittarii, and 15pts for the Servitor, IMHO.

haha, while I was writing short suggestions on each of the unit entrys you guys already posted more stuff...

and you're right Multi-meltas are free.


but they still shouldn't be free for this codex in my humble opinion...

I never use the Multi-Melta with my marines so I wouldn't know if it should be free of not...

marines should never take it, because it can't move and fire and its range is so short.

these units can actually use it so prehaps a increase should be made.

Why Space Marines get some weapons at a big discount (read: free), I'm not quite sure, but they are also GW's flagship. Should IG get Multi-Meltas for free? Should Hellhounds? Or Terminators? Or any unit for that matter? No. The only thing I can imagine, besides "because," that Space Marines would get them for "free" is because they are else-ways paid for by their unit price (if I remember correctly, you can only get those weapons for free if you take a full squad?).

I've always thought that multi-meltas should be assault weapons for some reason...

would kind of be overpowering because of its range.

Multi-meltas aren't free for SMs look at the codex pg138 - MM 30 pts, Pg142 MM 15 Pts. THey are free to a 10 man tac squad but that is because you are paying for it by purhcasing the marines at over the odds cost (16 per model compared to the better equipped and vastely superior Grey Hunter at 15 pts) to include the heavy (and special) weapon.

OK, i changed all melta guns to 10 points each and multi-meltas are now 15 points.

the only unit that can take a MM is the heavy weapon servitors with the Skittarii and i belive that balances out with the cost of 15 points.


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grayspark wrote:

The Magus seems to be overpriced...

would 125 be better?

also he has a separate price entry for every weapon that is on the Servo-harness.
I suggest sticking it together in one big package for 30 points.

well the point of that is you don't have to take all of them OR you can take all of one type and 30 points for a TL-plasma pistol, melta gun and powerfist is alot IMO


The idea of Augmetics is cool, I like it.
It says however that it makes him fearless, but below in the unit Special Rules it says he is already fearless...

Thats because the techpriests who are not fearless can get it too

I'd have to say the Tech Guard are overpriced for basically being veterans with an AP5 lasgun, that and the fact they cannot get upgrades aside from the weapon and augmetics.
I suggest making them 80 points if you keep them the way they are.
The idea of no negative leadership modifiers is cool.
Maybe instead of Hellguns they get an Assault 2 hellgun, or maybe give it longer range if you still want to justify them being 125 points.

80 points seem way too cheap for always having unmodified leadership, they are 12pts each so maybe removing the extra 5 points for the sergeant

The mechnicus Rhino is a cool idea, being able to fight in close combat as such also, I could imagine it plowing through troops that way. It however makes me kinda laugh as I imagine a Rhino with servo-arms sticking out of it.

The ork in me thought of that

The seculator is by far the coolest idea in here. Would be a beast to convert, probably tons of plasticard and it would come out being like a defiler.
They should cost probably more points however, around 140/150 I'd say.
Maybe being able to take another arm weapon also.

I did add another weapon arm, i will make it 125 points

Praetorians seem to be a bit overpowered with an invulnerable save of 4+. Maybe a + or a 6+ would be more appropriate to represent that they continue fighting on even with body parts missing, because comparing their armoured bodies to the Sacred energy shield of a Space Marine Captain doesn't seem appropriate. Terminators don't even have a 4+ invulnerable save...
Their power-gauntlets seem a little overpowered being the fact that they add strength and are power weapons AND have two of them... should probably make them cost more points...

50 points perhaps? Terminators can get a 3++ save for the same price and have a 2+ armor at the same time. what if i gave them slow and purposful instead of relentless. would make them slower to get to combat

The skiitarri seemed underpowered for a starting cost of 230... Perhaps lowering that
Aside from that they seem very good.

thats 20 points each + 30 points for the champions eviserator, so are you sure about lowering it?

Gotta say I love the heavy-support choices.

The ordnance Rhino is an awesome idea, maybe calling it a Predator instead of a Rhino though since Rhinos transport people... maybe use a new name altogether. Punisher? Eradicator? Something related to blasting them to smithereens I guess...

I called it a rhino because its on a rhino chassis, but another name could work. Punisher, Eradicator? i could be wrong, but i think those are Lemun Russ varients.

Heavy weapons servitors are cool. Maybe lower its starting cost to 80 or 90 is my only suggestion. Perhaps being able to intermingle them with Tech Guard infantry would be cool too, kind of like the Combined Squads rule for the IG.

i think 20 points for a T4, 3+ save, move and fire heavy bolter is good

The Knight is the coolest entry here.
My only suggestion would be raising its armor values by 1 on each side.

It can do that, but i am an idiot and forgot the points cost

Land Crawler has a lot of choices for it, seems okay however.



That's my slant on everything so far.

Looks good please keep it up!

would 125 be better?

1. The magus I believe should 100-125. But yeh, somewhere in that price range. He just seemed incredibly overpriced, even with 4/5 toughness.

well the point of that is you don't have to take all of them OR you can take all of one type and 30 points for a TL-plasma pistol, melta gun and powerfist is alot IMO

2. Will you give rules to it when you buy them seperatly to still be able to fire 2 weapons a turn like with the Tech marine with servo harness?
I also suggest adding more choices for that.

Perhaps having a close combat setup versus a shooting setup
He could take the TL-plasma pistol and flamer and a power weapon (if that's possible) for a close combat hero
Or maybe even he could put a huge harness on himself that mounts a plasma cannon or a heavy bolter, but then be made slow and purposeful.

Thats because the techpriests who are not fearless can get it too

3. With Augmetics then if you gave it too the tech guard then they would be fearless?

80 points seem way too cheap for always having unmodified leadership, they are 12pts each so maybe removing the extra 5 points for the sergeant

4. 125 points is really overpriced if you ask me for just having veterans with hellguns... and I feel the unchanged leadership although it is something special, it shouldn't be a basis to make them 125 points. I'd see 100 points at the most per squad.

The ork in me thought of that

5. Haha, maybe for a dedicated transport you could have a souped up Razorback. Twin-linked plasma cannons come to mind.

I did add another weapon arm, i will make it 125 points

6.k... musta missed the part about another arm.

50 points perhaps? Terminators can get a 3++ save for the same price and have a 2+ armor at the same time. what if i gave them slow and purposful instead of relentless. would make them slower to get to combat

7. Terminators though do not have +2 strength weapons, two of them in an arm, a souped up invulnerable save, twinlinked guns, and are no fearless...
to make the Assault terminators as you said with a 3++ armor save you would have to give them the thunder hammer, which mind you strikes last. Also strength 8 for the thunder hammers always seems to be overkill against most armies I play...

either way I think the invulnerable save should be changed, make em 40 points, about there
And don't make them slow and purposeful. That would be under powering them.

thats 20 points each + 30 points for the champions eviserator, so are you sure about lowering it?

8.I must not have checked them over closely the first time through.

Now I noticed that they have toughness 5 and alot of wounds...
the 4 sounds seems a little much especially since you'll be getting 5 of them...
but yeh, now that I look closer you priced them right.

I called it a rhino because its on a rhino chassis, but another name could work. Punisher, Eradicator? i could be wrong, but i think those are Lemun Russ varients.

9. Yeh I know those are Leman russ names... haha... I'm just unimaginative...
But still, cool name!!!

i think 20 points for a T4, 3+ save, move and fire heavy bolter is good

10. I guess..... They just sort of reminded me of an underpowered Devastator squad...

It can do that, but i am an idiot and forgot the points cost

11.Another suggestion for the knight is too give it more special weapons! that's all though...


thanks for replying to my critique the codex looks good

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Where are the Electoo-Priests?

if you mean techpriests they are under the mageos as a retinue option

might I suggest a few names for the "ordinance rhino" A mechanicus pummler, pulveriser, atom smasher, subjagator,

Sorry, I meant Electro-Priests...the dudes with Electoo's/grafted technology onto the skin to harness bio-electric energy...etc... that sort of unit. I remember reading somewhere that they are a cult under the Mechanicus umbrella. But I guess they could be count as body guards to the Magos.

That sounds like a group that even other Mechanicus groups would view as heretic....


Hey for an idea, perhaps there should be a way to build up this list as being a Dark Mechanicus Techno Magus...

different unit options and such!

someone else do that, i got drained doing this.

they have basically the same types so go for "counts as" for the DM.


Electroo priests sound interesting, stat ideas?