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Alright, picked up my BA codex today. Been looking through it and made a list that I was rather proud of. Its got some Death company Inquisitor action, and good amounts of anti infantry and tank. Tell me what you think. Its meant for a kinda of shock in the first two turns, with fast vehicles and assaults in your deployment.
(Note: I do do an odd way of making lists, so ask me for clarification. And the points are left on the Inquisitor to show wargear limit)

Sons of Gorgon: 1746 total points

HQ: 128
Captain
Stormbolter
Powerfist
Total: 128

Elites: 305
Sternguard Veterans
+1 veteran
Powerfist
Combi-melta
Multimelta
Total: 185

Witch Hunters Inquisitor
Force Weapon: 40
Brazier of holy fire: 10
Psychic hood: 20
Scourging: 20
Power armour:10
Total: 120

Troops: 760
Tac squad
+5 men
Flamer
Heavy Bolter
Chainsword
Total:170

Razorback
Twin linked lasscannon
Stormbolter
Dozer blade
Extra armour
Total:120


Tac squad
+5 men
Flamer
Heavy Bolter
Chainsword
Total:170

Razorback
Twin linked lasscannon
Stormbolter
Dozer blade
Extra amour
Total:120


Death Company
+3 Death Company
Infernus Pistol
Total: 135

Drop pod
Locator beacon
Total:45

Fast Attack: 60
Landspeeder
Multi-melta
Total: 60

Heavy Support: 490

Devastator Squad
Missile Launcher x4
Powerfist
Total: 130

Devastator Squad
Lasscannon x4
Powerfist
Total: 190


Vindicator
Siege shield
Extra armour
Total: 170

I saw many ridiculous unnecessary wargears investments.

What is the expensive melee upgrades on the S3 T3 inquisitors for?

Why PF on devas?

Why your razorback is more expensive than other player's predator?

tokugawa wrote:I saw many ridiculous unnecessary wargears investments.

What is the expensive melee upgrades on the S3 T3 inquisitors for?

Why PF on devas?

Why your razorback is more expensive than other player's predator?

The Expensive melee upgrades are for when he runs with the death company, he needs to be on par with them, and he is melee oriented.

My Devs are tank hunters first and foremost. Power fists seem to get into tanks nicely.

My Razorbacks ARE my preds. I cant take any in a Heavy slot, so they become transports. They are just as effective, because no one expects a transport to have that kind of fire power.

Adding =I= help to the BA is like adding extra TNT onto a nuke.

Seriously though, why take a Captain? I think they are one of the least useful options in that slot. I'd have gone with a libby or a reclusiarch for the price. Also, why the mixed dev squads? I'd lump all the LCs into one, and all the MLs into the other (unless they are there for ablative wounds to the LCs?).

Also, may as well throw a psychic hood on the inquisitor, or don't bother taking him at all. That's really the best benefit to taking =I=.

Happygrunt wrote:They are just as effective, because no one expects a transport to have that kind of fire power.

When your opponent sees TL lascannon he can say at once how effective would that be. And maybe he would like to dispose of that threat. And, if you're going to use storm bolters you've bought, you'll need to get close, so it looks like you don't intend to leave razorbacks sitting behind and popping shots. And don't you think that any lucky plasma pistol shot, heavy bolter round, not to say missile or las shot will be their doom with AV11? So I thinks calling it "just as effective" is a bit of stretching to a term.

Predator with the same upgrades (-transport +AV13) would cost you 135. If you drop PF on one devastators (don't you think that if 48"-range unit has to charge at the tank battle's pretty much lost anyway) you can almost afford it with no other changes to the list.

Or at least give PFs to the tacticals - they have better chance to see some melee action. Or, if they are plain and simple fire support, drop both PFs and give some more ablative shielding to the devs - now you have none and every wound is decreasing firepower for you.

By the way, chaplain (from the elites) is a good and "fluffy" addition to any DC. Looks like your army has some story behind it but won't it be stronger with a chap?

TL Lascanons on AV11...thank you, those die turn one, wihtout fail....you paid points for nothing.

Inquisitor? Libby is far better...

Devs? Take fast preds...cuz you can move and fire.

Razorback
Twin linked lasscannon
Stormbolter
Dozer blade
Extra amour
Total:120

Anything that Storm Bolter is fired at wastes that Las Cannon. Anything that Las Cannon should deal with is immune to the Storm Bolter. That said I could see adding the SB if it were a HB Razorback as those have the same preferred targets.

Cheers,
~Volkan

Alerian wrote:TL Lascanons on AV11...thank you, those die turn one, wihtout fail....you paid points for nothing.

If I played my cards right, that AV11 Lasscannon will be the least of your problems.

Lists updated, ML are in one squad, Lass in the other. PF stayed, as did the storm bolters. They are modeled on, and I am a WYSIWYG nazi. WH Inquisitor became more pysker oriented, and thats about it. I only have a captain model, Kinda disseminated by the BA use for captains, but until I get a Librarian, he is gunna stay.

This might sound harsh (and it truthfully is, but try to ignore my inflamitoryness....) but this list is a bad cookie cutter vanilla marine list.

Before I really give you critique, either turn this into a blood angels list, or get the nearest vanilla codex. Blood Angels CAN shoot. But you literally took advantage of NOTHING. No Baals, no Infernus etc. pistols. No priests. NOTHING. Drop the Inquisitor. The last thing BA need is a psycher without a hood.

I'll go ahead and give a little critique now...

1. HQ should be a librarian or special character. The one you have sucks. Psychic hood and all the goodies is to good to pass up.
2. If you want a shooting list, spam more razorbacks. Las/Plas is preferred and skip the upgrades.
3. LC/HB or AC/LC in heavy support and Baals in FA is preferred. Lots of dakka there.
4. Librarian Dreads are disgusting.
5. Sanguinary priests make you live long time if you want a good assault unit in the mix.
6. Meltaguns on the troops is also a very good idea if you want to go with about suggestions.
7. PF on devs do suck that bad. They won't ever want to get close with lascannons and if they get assault, well, they're dead.

EzeKK wrote:This might sound harsh (and it truthfully is, but try to ignore my inflamitoryness....) but this list is a bad cookie cutter vanilla marine list.

Before I really give you critique, either turn this into a blood angels list, or get the nearest vanilla codex. Blood Angels CAN shoot. But you literally took advantage of NOTHING. No Baals, no Infernus etc. pistols. No priests. NOTHING. Drop the Inquisitor. The last thing BA need is a psycher without a hood.

I'll go ahead and give a little critique now...

1. HQ should be a librarian or special character. The one you have sucks. Psychic hood and all the goodies is to good to pass up.
2. If you want a shooting list, spam more razorbacks. Las/Plas is preferred and skip the upgrades.
3. LC/HB or AC/LC in heavy support and Baals in FA is preferred. Lots of dakka there.
4. Librarian Dreads are disgusting.
5. Sanguinary priests make you live long time if you want a good assault unit in the mix.
6. Meltaguns on the troops is also a very good idea if you want to go with about suggestions.
7. PF on devs do suck that bad. They won't ever want to get close with lascannons and if they get assault, well, they're dead.

Your right, the list sucks if I had acces to unlimited amounts of ever model and the money to do it, and a little conversion skill.

I have non of the above.
I will drop the Inquisitor with hood for a BAAL( assault cannons) and get a Librarian. I literally took my vanilla list and Put some Blood Angels things in. I will be working on more of a Blood Angels shooty list as I get the cash. However, for what I have, this aint bad. I am gunna buy a box of 5 man marines to make seargents for the Devs to just have bolters, and get a Baal for my FA slot. Sanduinary priest will be added to me Troops and Eilite choice. Thanks for the input so far guys. I understand that my list is bad, and thanks for bearing with me as I work on it.

Happygrunt wrote:
Your right, the list sucks if I had acces to unlimited amounts of ever model and the money to do it, and a little conversion skill.

I have non of the above.
I will drop the Inquisitor with hood for a BAAL( assault cannons) and get a Librarian. I literally took my vanilla list and Put some Blood Angels things in. I will be working on more of a Blood Angels shooty list as I get the cash. However, for what I have, this aint bad. I am gunna buy a box of 5 man marines to make seargents for the Devs to just have bolters, and get a Baal for my FA slot. Sanduinary priest will be added to me Troops and Eilite choice. Thanks for the input so far guys. I understand that my list is bad, and thanks for bearing with me as I work on it.

Ah well I probably would have posted differently if I would have known that you are converting like that. You can always ghetto converty (basically just slap the weapon on) Rhinos and Razorbacks to preds and such. If you are transitioning I would honestly just work with what you got and have fun with it until you can build your future list.