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My Chaos Legion is heavy on vehicles, and I wanted a more.... mechanized Lord than what wings would give him, and as I have recently begun writing a book about the Horsemen of the Apocalypse, I thought a Biker would be really cool. I just came up with this stat-line and rules in like 4 seconds, please judge accordingly.

180 pts

Demetrius: WS:6 BS:5 S:4(5) T:4(5) W:3 I:5 A:3 LD:10 Sv:3+

Equipment: Bike with Twin Linked Flamer, Power Armor

Bound Daemon Sword: Containing the soul of his brother, the Daemon Prince Alchemizon, who was slain by the Black Templars, He has an easier time of controlling his weapon than even Abaddon. Ignores armor, + 1 strength (included in profile), +D3 attacks, roll every turn. Rolling a 1 does not cause any ill effect.

Special Rules: Prefered Enemy Black Templars, Fearless

Dark Rider: No biker is more fearsome and skilled than Demetrius. He may use Turbo Boosters and Assault (but not shoot) in the same turn. In any turn in which he assaults after moving at least 18", He doubles his base strength (for a total of S:9 ) OR make one attack at Strength 9, rolling 2d6 for armor penetration. He retains his invulnerable save during the first turn of combat.

Horsemen: Demetrius may be accompanied by up to 3 Bikers as an elite choice, with all the standard options available to them. This is the only unit he is allowed to join. Note that if he does this he loses his Dark Rider ability.


Well, he be fast, deadly in close combat, and is almost always going to get the charge. While he wont wreck as much havoc as Abaddon or Kharn (due to lack of staying power after the first turn of combat), whichever unit he hits is going to feel it that first turn. Swarm him and he dies pretty fast. Or, if prefered, he and his Horsemen can become infantry hit and runners, with his two flamers.

So, thoughts? I know he is probably unbalanced, but I don't have anyone to play against at the moment so I can not play test him yet.

He has the ability to move a massive distance and then assault like an I5 carnifex. He could really pick a single tank/unit in the enemy army to assassinate on the first/second turn.

Also, ignoring the 1 on a daemon weapon is very useful.

I know he is expensive but it's a bit much.

i think the 2d6 Armour Penatration is a bit much, but other than that Me Likey

Very strong and flavorful model. Yes indeed he makes a great tanksassin, and I think that fits his fast and furious flavor perfectly. I have two suggestions:

a) maybe make it just a TL flamer (or heavy flamer) rather than two flamers. He already gets a good number of attacks and two template will kill a lot more than you'd think.

b) give his personal biker bodyguard some kind of special ability? Alternatively, taking him lets you take bikers as troops. Just some thoughts.

MekanobSamael wrote:Very strong and flavorful model. Yes indeed he makes a great tanksassin, and I think that fits his fast and furious flavor perfectly. I have two suggestions:

a) maybe make it just a TL flamer (or heavy flamer) rather than two flamers. He already gets a good number of attacks and two template will kill a lot more than you'd think.

b) give his personal biker bodyguard some kind of special ability? Alternatively, taking him lets you take bikers as troops. Just some thoughts.

I agree with this whole heartedly. The idea is sound, and i dont believe his turbo-boost and assault in the same turn is even that overpowered. However, if his Dark Rider special rule is not conferred to his Retinue then Demetrius cannot assault after turbo-boosting. Its the same as Independent characters who enter squads that can infiltrate and lose infiltrate due to the IC not having the same special rules. Also, can his retinue carry an icon? if not this should be specified.

I might suggest, that doubling his strength to 9 isnt overpowered, however adding the 2D6 to armor penetration to his attacks is. I suggest after he turbo-boosts and assaults you have two options. Option 1: Demetrius can make 1 Strength 9 attack that rolls 2D6 for armor penetration. Option 2: Demetrius may make all of his attacks normally at double strength. (aka 4 strength 9 attacks). I picture this as Demetrius turbo-boosting up to a tank and giving it one awe inspiring smash destroying a tank. Otherwise 3 attacks at strength 9 with 2D6 to armor penetration would almost certainly kill any tank (monoliths aside of course) first turn. Comparatively, a Bloodthirster with wings and unholy might makes 6 Strength 9 attacks on the charge, however he costs 270 points, and only moves a total of 18".

Also on his statline Strength should be represented as 4(5) and not just 5 as this would cause confusion using his Dark Rider ability.

Overall i think its a good idea and 180 is the right price with a little balancing.

Have you thought abotu a model for this? I can think of nothing better than the GW "Doomrider" model.









i think it is a direct order only model but it looks pretty cool!

Thanks for the replies, guys. I updated the OP with some of the suggestions

@praxiss: well, right now I am using my Chaos Biker Champion, who has a spear on him, but yeah, a repositioned Doomrider is what I was thinking of having.

@mrwittwer: I wasn't thinking about the Icons when I origionally came up with the idea, so which do you think it should be? I was going to make Dark Rider go with the unit, but I thought that the unit might be a little Overpowered. Figured that it ought to be either just him as a beat upside the forehead or him with his retinue that moves slower but still kicks ass.

Mekanobsamael: Well, as I said I was going to give them all Dark Rider (or at least the part of assaulting after turboing) but thought against it. Also, since I have all my troops in transports I didn't really think about the bikers as troops. Might add that in, though I probably won't use it