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Commutative likes I believe is less than 100. Each one has about 12-20 likes and only two photos have any comments.
Just counted it's 90 likes on 4 photos. The one with the most likes Is the one that reported it As. Scam and he argued with people in the comments.

There isn't a bargepole long enough...

Thanks for continuing to be vigilant, guys. It's a shame that we have to be, but it's that day and age! Good to see hobbyists watching out for each other and nipping things like this in the bud

Paul Waumsley
Been speaking to Alan from Black Crusade Studio, he's horrified that this is someone design as he was sold it by another individual. He seriously wishes to talk to the original designer so he can straighten out this whole mess. Sadly he is being witch-hunted without being able to have his say or apologize to the original designer. Looking at this I think both designers are the victims & a Dick Dasterly has made some money on the side. If anyone could put Alan in touch with the original owner I'm sure he would be greatful.

Wonder where he always manages to find his defenders. A inexhaustible supply it seems. And always cannon fodder to send forward instead of coming himself. Count that as another parallel.

To be fair guys, THIS time, it might simply just a big old misunderstanding and this guy might have nothing at all to do with Mandelbaum.

It's just a pity that because of people LIKE and Including Mandelbaum that we find it hard to trust people in this dudes position.

Although, I would put money on it being Mandelbaum...

Lol at that quote Inquisitor S. As if the original designer is hard to find. He made a video denouncing the copying of his work, and posts frequently on Warseer- he has been posting regarding this very issue when it was discovered.

Contacting the original designer is as easy as signing up for YouTube or Warseer and sending him a message.

Again, lol... it's just too much sometimes

I'm showing up to this thread a bit late, but the conversions on that facebook page are VERY reminiscent of Mandelbondsley's style.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-Crusade-Studio/481959581882223?id=481959581882223&sk=photos_stream

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Resin-Forge-Store/464657756903319?id=464657756903319&sk=photos_stream

A strong wind of caution to anyone who buys from Black Crusade.

To be fair guys, THIS time, it might simply just a big old misunderstanding and this guy might have nothing at all to do with Mandelbaum.

Maybe it's not Mandelbaum. But certainly the pics used for the advertisement were ripped straight out of somebody's account and passed as Black Crusade Studio's. And now claiming that they paid money for 3D plans they did never test? Yeah, absolutely legit

 Inquisitor S. wrote:
Maybe it's not Mandelbaum. But certainly the pics used for the advertisement were ripped straight out of somebody's account and passed as Black Crusade Studio's. And now claiming that they paid money for 3D plans they did never test? Yeah, absolutely legit

This is the point, really. It doesn't even much matter who is behind it (although there are some Really obvious indications!). They stole pics of someone's model, and were passing it off as their own. That is almost the very definition of "scam"!

This is the point, really. It doesn't even much matter who is behind it (although there are some Really obvious indications!). They stole pics of someone's model, and were passing it off as their own. That is almost the very definition of "scam"!

Yes, that is the reason that when we passed out the warning we did not include any allusions to RF or Mandelbaum etc. That is just speculation for now, the fact that somebody sells something that a) doesn't exist or b) has been stolen is the main message.

 RiTides wrote:

This is the point, really. It doesn't even much matter who is behind it (although there are some Really Stinkin' Obvious indications!). They stole pics of someone's model, and were passing it off as their own. That is almost the very definition of "scam"!

edited for amusement..

And.. (to join in the others).. HIGHLY identical style of behaviour..

Almost like there was a "Scammers Manual" or some such..

Nicely done

Side note, while not particularly damning, Alan "Welson" happens to be fb friends with AJ Thornton who was the "PR" guy brought in by Resin Forge to try and keep that ship from sinking.

Also, there is no record of any person named Alan Welson in California other than a 68 year old man from Hesperia(nowhere near LA).

Certainly none of the local shops have heard of such a person or Black Crusade Studios. Both accounts showed up August 4th on FB.

In this day and age, practically no one who plays warhammer is just now making a FB page.

*whistles innocently*

This all does seem very familiar, doesn't it?

So if all goes to the usual schedule, we're probably looking at two weeks of denial and attempts to salvage something, followed by a mysterious new company arising in the next couple of months.

Must be a lot of money in 40k scams if he's back again so soon... either that or he has no employability.

 Aerethan wrote:
Side note, while not particularly damning, Alan "Welson" happens to be fb friends with AJ Thornton who was the "PR" guy brought in by Resin Forge to try and keep that ship from sinking.

Also, there is no record of any person named Alan Welson in California other than a 68 year old man from Hesperia(nowhere near LA).

Certainly none of the local shops have heard of such a person or Black Crusade Studios. Both accounts showed up August 4th on FB.

In this day and age, practically no one who plays warhammer is just now making a FB page.

I just like to add my say here. I added Alan to dig into the profile and link to BCS.
But I think due to my involvement in the final days of resin forge and some info I shared to Tom that led to the final closing, if it is DM,
I'm being kept out of the loop and my messages are being ignored.

I've even made a few hard offers to purchase items with no response, so for a business wanting to make money, they certainly don't want to sell to me.

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
Side note, while not particularly damning, Alan "Welson" happens to be fb friends with AJ Thornton who was the "PR" guy brought in by Resin Forge to try and keep that ship from sinking.

Also, there is no record of any person named Alan Welson in California other than a 68 year old man from Hesperia(nowhere near LA).

Certainly none of the local shops have heard of such a person or Black Crusade Studios. Both accounts showed up August 4th on FB.

In this day and age, practically no one who plays warhammer is just now making a FB page.

I just like to add my say here. I added Alan to dig into the profile and link to BCS.
But I think due to my involvement in the final days of resin forge and some info I shared to Tom that led to the final closing, if it is DM,
I'm being kept out of the loop and my messages are being ignored.

I've even made a few hard offers to purchase items with no response, so for a business wanting to make money, they certainly don't want to sell to me.

Right, sorry. I forgot what your username was here. Apologies for the presumption.

Further, the only "Alan" linked to UCLA is an Allen Wilson, who is a professor of electrical engineering.

Must be a lot of money in 40k scams if he's back again so soon... either that or he has no employability.

Tbh if I were to speculate to try something so obvious so shortly after setting up page and rushing so through with it for me looks more like urgent need of money for something. Especially with the issue of collecting the pre-order money beforehand and quite aggressively marketing a very short window of "opportunity". But it doesn't really matter.

I am trying to establish contact with one of the people who knows somebody who apparently paid money to see what name the paypal is running on this time.

No hard feelings! I just wanted to clarify before I get blown up

so from the start date of 27th july to 3rd aug he had 0 likes then from the 3rd to the 10th it went upto 156 (posted pics of the iron warrior) .from the 8th to the 19th it went down to 50( was running a win a conversion competition as well ?) then the 19th to the 25th it jumped up to 312( due to the titan being posted up) then on the 26th up to 529 !(due to us !lol)

now I know established business that don't have that many likes . now im not saying they were all purchased but ....

I just want to say "wow" to the guys who remain ever-vigilant against these sorts. Whether it is one we know already (no names), or somebody new who doesn't seem on the level, the effort you guys put forth is amazing. I think I speak for the community when I say "thanks".

This is a new record of a scam being caught right? Glad this came up, I almost bought some marine weapons from this guy.

What an age to live in. Thanks Dakka!

 Happygrunt wrote:
This is a new record of a scam being caught right? Glad this came up, I almost bought some marine weapons from this guy.

What an age to live in. Thanks Dakka!

3 weeks is certainly a short window.

I doubt this round will be as entertaining as the last, I've already warned my office about potential calls trying to get me fired again.

I pointed out earlier that the quick number of likes as well. But it really is obvious they're bought with the amount of comments and likes the posts on the page gets.

Whoever is running Black Crusade can establish their credentials by publishing their business registration as required by law.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Whoever is running Black Crusade can establish their credentials by publishing their business registration as required by law.

Good One!

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Whoever is running Black Crusade can establish their credentials by publishing their business registration as required by law.

If it is DM we'll never see this information because "it contains private information that will reveal to much about a personal identity."

 Aerethan wrote:

 Happygrunt wrote:
This is a new record of a scam being caught right? Glad this came up, I almost bought some marine weapons from this guy.

What an age to live in. Thanks Dakka!

3 weeks is certainly a short window.

I doubt this round will be as entertaining as the last, I've already warned my office about potential calls trying to get me fired again.

Aerathan, How did your boss take that news? Did he have a good laugh, or swear?

I'll bet a good chunk it is Daniel Mandelbaum at this point, as usual he is going through his exact playbook, right down to the 'unable to resolve because it's a witchhunt!' and talking through probably unwitting puppets. This, combined with the conversions, the scamming pre-order thievery, the sudden appearance right after Resin Forge folded, all of it.

It's just my opinion mind you... at this time anyways... you better believe there are dozens of people looking into this intensely right now. And before it pops up on that FB page that this was a threat, it wasn't. As always Daniel, the only people we want you to deal with directly is the proper law-enforcement authorities.

When and if concrete proof comes up, rest assured it will be given as per usual. In the meantime, on the off chance I am wrong about it, who cares, this person is still scamming the community and committing theft so I'll consider it time well spent.

Guys, so many people were on the look-out and being vigilant about this, I am so very proud of them, they know who they are.

A particular call-out to AJ here, you're a good man sir. To think the last ablative resin forge rep quit within a week and is now interested in protecting the community says tons about your character. I am sure I speak for the rest of us if I say a big 'Thank you' for being willing to listen and making an honest assessment.

400+ Likes !!
Yesterday in Los Angeles, California

Now at 648 likes!. Wow thats some likes in such a short time, think you guys have found the new venture already, kudos.


Gone up by 3 in a the last seconds, and not a mirror picture in sight!