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Actually you will have the two plastic turrets on the sprue, so you'll be able to switch the turrets to field the three tanks as any of five variants (you might not be able to field all three as the same variant though).

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Picked up Barbarossa the other day. Such a bargain of a book! It was like I went back to 1995 and purchased a GW codex lol.

This has now made me want a Russian force, however I am a little confused over the listings.

Can you really field a Battalion? Also how come some of the tank platoons can go up to 3000 pts? I was under the impression you could only field one company therefore the Germans can't field a force big enough to combat it....

Unless of course I am completely wrong (wouldn't be the first time lol)


 
   
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You have the option to field hugely expensive units - but in most regular games you won't see 10 t-34's maybe just 3

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Because of their low rating soviet units are cheap so they're fielded at battalion level rather than company level.

There are a couple tank units that cap out at over a thlusand points. They feel like lazy cut and paste entries to me and to my mind they should have been capped as platoons because nobody is going to field a full 5,000 point KV company. I have a T-35 battalion list in mind (from Rising Sun) and that only has seven of them in the whole Battalion.

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 George Spiggott wrote:
Because of their low rating soviet units are cheap so they're fielded at battalion level rather than company level.


For the Soviets, it's as much organizational as it is quality. The Soviets organized their forces differently than the other nations, and the battalion-level focus is the result. As an example, the Soviets fielded three-tank platoons, as opposed to the five-tank platoons that most of the other nations fielded. This meant that they had ten tanks in a company, as opposed to the fifteen or sixteen tanks that everyone else had.


However, for the Italians and Romanians, it's a matter of how little their units cost points-wise. As an exercise, I once built a Romanian infantry list using the old Ostfront book (which still had Romanians at the company level), and was forced to take pretty much everything (keep in mind that the Mid-War Romanian infantry list doesn't have access to *any* AFVs) in order to reach the 1500 points level that I was using to build the list.
   
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I think for the russians I will be going for Red Army mass of infantry supported by KV-2's. I love the idea of sending waves and waves of infantry to get an objective.......maybe I should speak to someone about this.


 
   
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Eumerin wrote:
However, for the Italians and Romanians, it's a matter of how little their units cost points-wise. As an exercise, I once built a Romanian infantry list using the old Ostfront book (which still had Romanians at the company level), and was forced to take pretty much everything (keep in mind that the Mid-War Romanian infantry list doesn't have access to *any* AFVs) in order to reach the 1500 points level that I was using to build the list.
Plenty of armies have 3 tank platoons and are not Battalion level lists. A few Soviet tank companies are 16 tanks.

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