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Fire raptor is really good but a big model and 225pt flyer without ceramite is a fairly easy target to take out quickly and it's not like you can hide it very easily plus in order to utilise its weapons you need it near or around the middle of the table.
Personally I'm never bothered when I play vs one, usual goes down within a couple of turns or it has try and hide and ends up doing nothin.
stormwolf just offers more in my opinion, shame ba didnt get a new flyer like sw it could have been a beauty

Poly Ranger wrote:
Chaos version is sooooo much better. 2 quad autocannons instead of quad bolters (10pts extra), and gets to trade silly ordnance missiles for 4 st5 large blast missiles.


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Loses PotMS though.

I've only ever faced the chaos one! Yeah...it's a beast.


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dark_red wrote:
Fire raptor is really good but a big model and 225pt flyer without ceramite is a fairly easy target to take out quickly and it's not like you can hide it very easily plus in order to utilise its weapons you need it near or around the middle of the table.
Personally I'm never bothered when I play vs one, usual goes down within a couple of turns or it has try and hide and ends up doing nothin.
stormwolf just offers more in my opinion, shame ba didnt get a new flyer like sw it could have been a beauty

I like storm wolf. Lots of guns and it's tough. It's so ugly though.

 Xenomancers wrote:

Poly Ranger wrote:
Chaos version is sooooo much better. 2 quad autocannons instead of quad bolters (10pts extra), and gets to trade silly ordnance missiles for 4 st5 large blast missiles.


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Loses PotMS though.

I've only ever faced the chaos one! Yeah...it's a beast.


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dark_red wrote:
Fire raptor is really good but a big model and 225pt flyer without ceramite is a fairly easy target to take out quickly and it's not like you can hide it very easily plus in order to utilise its weapons you need it near or around the middle of the table.
Personally I'm never bothered when I play vs one, usual goes down within a couple of turns or it has try and hide and ends up doing nothin.
stormwolf just offers more in my opinion, shame ba didnt get a new flyer like sw it could have been a beauty

I like storm wolf. Lots of guns and it's tough. It's so ugly though.

I'm sure the standard vversioncan upgrade to autocanons

And ye the stormwolf is like a fridge with dumpy wings, it's growing on me but can't help but laugh when people put them on the table. It's just so uncreative but I guess sw are about getting it done with a sledgehammer not looking good and showing off.

 Ratius wrote:
Are Dakkajets worth it these days guys?
I have two unboxed ones but cant seem to work them into a list.
Am I better off selling em on?
They dont seem to do air superiority or dog fighting well and dont put out that much dakka considering other codex options.

They work great for me, especialy during waagh phase.

Usualy i can kill/seriously wound a flying MC a turn. Against light vehicles it is just OP. Ooh look. av10.. dakkadakkadakka boom!
Infantry usualy takes quite a few hits from them as well

The new Bloodthirster is pretty fearsome (buffed, it would be hard to kill, and he has a melee D weapon), but really, I'd have to give the award of "best flyer" to Flyrants -- because they are awesomely cheap and versatile for what they do, and you can have so freaking many. Plus dakka configuration is good. The problem isn't 1 flyrant (and I'm sure, it won't be 1 bloodthirster). It's that you can run into 5, 6 of them.